The Torture Games - full horror of Guantanamo revealed

Of course, the first country that you pick is an ally of the United States, Israel.  
 
But what I said is 100% true, we are the only country that has any kind of transparency to our intelligence operations.  
 
If everybody else was required to do the same, I am sure that we would not even be close to the worst, as far as abuses.  Neither would Israel.  

 

After the fact transparency is pretty much a pointless exercise.  Add to this a zero accountability clause for those who sanctioned the torture as well as for who carried it out, and we are left with the status quo.
 
Again.
 
This kind of reveal is more like a ritual cleansing in order to try and regain some kind of "lost" moral authority than it is an attempt to change anything in the real world.  I bet in six years time, the current regime will be accused of actions very similar to what the old regime is now being accused of.

 

Let's have 100% transparency about intelligence operations, for ALL countries - at least in the United Nations, which is leading the critics of the United States.
 
If other countries are not forthcoming about their intelligence, then they have no business pointing fingers at the United States.

 

aww the poor terrorist got hemroids from having his booty sabotaged i feel sooo bad

 

Unless.you.can.prove he is a terrorist you just sound like a.dumbass right now

O wait. The entire point was to deny them trial so they don't have to.prove them.guilty

Guess your a.dumbass

-yuri

 

I hope every last prisoner in that motherfucker gets raped and shit in there food for the rest of there lives they didnt get put there for no reason as much as your dumb blind hippy ideas make you think they did

 

Point proven

-yuri

 

Only dooshocrats are dopy enough to feel sorry for a bunch of death cult assholes that would rather be videoed sawing their heads off than be set free. Gotta get those feelings under control and start using some rationality for a change. The whole party has lost it.
 

 

We we DON'T know about what other countries are doing with their intelligence units, would fill libraries.  
 
Even with our misdeeds and mistakes, including bad press due to our open policies about transparency, the United States consistently does OK with international opinion polls.  

 

 
 
There have been cases where innocent people have been sent to Gitmo.
 
What if you were one of those innocent people? Someone from your political affiliation blows up a building and the government rounds you up.
 
Would you still support being raped and forced to eat shit?

 

i wouldnt be part of any government that targeted innocent people in different countries and go ahead and start with the bs that the us does it all the time bc its bullshit

 

America used to be above torture. We left that to cruel dictators and the monsters of history.
 
We're going backwards.
 
It will always be wrong to inflict will-breaking misery and pain on someone who is at your mercy.

 

 
If you knew the civilian casualties of America's military campaign you'd understand that it isn't bullshit.
 
To people in those countries you're an oil company invader who kills innocent people.
 
But what if the American government turned on you because some idiot who shared your beliefs or shared your workplace killed thousands of people. Do think the government isn't capable of torturing white Americans?

 

There is no trial.

So you can't prove they are guilty

Are you really that blindly trusting?

Stop being ignorant. No.government ever in history has been the "good guys"

Why would you think America is different? Wake up and smell Tue propaganda

-yuri

 

 
The problem isn't really "humans," the problem is the state.
 
Individual humans, left to their own devices, generally have no interest in committing mass murder. But theft, coercion, murdering dissidents, and the mass-murder of people on the other side of an invisible line on the globe are all in the interest of governments.
 
Unchecked power in the hands of a few sociopaths (* which all political "leaders" are) is a recipe for disaster -- as history shows.
 
* Our most "famous" presidents are generally the ones who have killed the most people.

 

 
Yup, same old story.
 
The CIA gets in "trouble" on a regular basis. A generation or so goes by and the cycle starts all over again.
 
It is quite ironic to see politicians trash the CIA in the usual solemn, seemingly-meaningful hearings -- the same politicians who vote for tax bills every two years or so that help fund the CIA.
 
One part of government trashing another part of government, lol. Who could make something like this up?
 
It's all phony, it's all for public consumption.

 

Many Americans seem to think that Washington was just sitting around on 9/11 minding its own business, when it was suddenly -- and without reason -- attacked by a bunch of irrational lunatics from the Middle East.
 
To most Americans, the history of the Washington-Middle East relationship began on 9/11/01.
 
Right.
 
Actually, it started almost a century ago by the West, led by Washington/Britain: Endless political and economic meddling, behind-the-scenes coercion, coups, murder, bombing, and outright war.
 
US Intervention in the Middle East, 1918-2001
 
EDIT: As the CIA itself admitted, 9/11 was "blowback."

 

I would like to see a reliable source which documents a CIA official claiming that 9/11 was "blowback".