PLEASE HELPWeek 6-plants look pretty sick

Discussion in 'Sick Plants and Problems' started by growdiesel, Dec 2, 2014.

  1. Hey guys. Can't figure this out, tried Epsom salt at 1tbsp and it seemed to help for a day or two, or they just didn't get worse.

    Not sure what's going wrong but hoping I can catch it and fix it right away before I lose them all. Very saddening. Haha

    PLEASE HELLLPPP!!!
    Week 6.
    Water ph 6.5
    Buddha grow 10ml (tapering down)
    Buddha bloom 25ml (started smaller dose week 5)


    Fed them last night And now today the look like this. Before it was just yellow bottom leaves but now this.... Too much Buddha bloom????

    5 NL autos in root organic soil
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  2. Are you letting them dry out each time you feed and water?  It's always easy to just give them straight water until you get them healthy.
     
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  3. I just flushed them right now. But only 1.5 gallon each plant which is 3gal pots. Water ran out pretty quickly bc I watered with nutes yesterday. Must b the nutes making them like that, but they had mag n nitro Def and idk how to fix that alone, did Epsom for mag but figured nitrogen is still low
     
  4. They need to dry out!
     
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  5. Why so much Epsom? Isn't the recommended amount 1 teaspoon?

    I'm thinking it's possible that using so much salt is causing problems. I would flush with gallons of distilled water when you're able to next.
     
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  6. Flushed,them this afternoon. I'd,say,about 70% of,the water came,back,out bc they were already heavily watered yesterday n nutes too.

    I might have used a teaspoon of Epsom, I don't recall now.... Damn it. Either way. I flushed them, hopefully enough water went through.

    I'll lay off them until tomorrow morning and see how they look and keep an eye on them. Hopefully the flushing helps.

    Thanks guys.
     
  7. Don't give them any water until the soil is dry.  And I mean DRY!  I would let them get to the point of drooping leaves before giving a drink.
     
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  8. Ok. So let them dry out and then worry about the deficiency or whatever is wrong with them. It's really just two of the plants. One had it very bad other not so bad. Also it's the two busiest plants of them all and the two slowest growing.

    Am I going to lose these two if I only flush them n then let them dry out a bit? Or could that possibly help.

    Thanks guys. Amy opinion on what steps I should take would be much appreciated. Trying to save these asap.
     
  9. And the leaves are drooping already while ours wet and folding upwards in a v shape
     

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  10. STOP feeding them to start....and the Mad Professor is correct, you need to allow the soil dry out to the point of being arid.....the drier the better...it will do several things..it will allow your roots to get some air which they need, stop them from rotting and giving them a small break which thy need...but stop all the feeding until you get the problems under control..your plants wont take up many nutes while sick ayway....just allow them to get REAL dry then give them a little water to drink....small steps.....forget the nutes till a few weeks.
     
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  11. Thanks allot. Will do. I'll give them all a few days to dry out,
     
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    i am thinking too many BLOOM nutes for a plant that was behind and was barely flowering. or barely even pre flowering... 
     
    could too many bloom nutrients kill the plant like that if it were behind? bc the only two showing any NEGATIVE signs from the feeding are the two that were bushier but not flowering much at all yet.???
     
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    here is yesterday. these are the two that are flowering more and are yellow. they arent burn and brown spotted so much like the two that arent flowering much. i fed them all the same amount the last feeding and i figured with higher nitrogen bc still using a small amount of grow (buddha grow) nutes, and then i upped my bloom nutes 25ml of buddha bloom and the flowering plants stayed yellow and the other two turned brown n spotted and seem to be dying as of today. 
     
    i flushed them all as stated before, so i will wait a few days and hopefully they improve as they dry out and then get a little water again. 
     
    i didnt flush the flowering plants that were yellow i figured thats not enough nitrogen so i just left them to dry out for now. 
     
    any ideas on the next step after letting them dry out? i want to be proactive if possible so it doesnt worsen. 
     
    thanks guys. 

    sorry reposted same two pics. 
     

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  14. #14 Mad_Prophessor, Dec 4, 2014
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    Remove the shitty looking leaves.  They don't help you if they are more than 50% damaged.  Give them PH water for the next water maybe even the next two.  At least until she has equalized.  This has to be gradual as not to shock her.  
     
    Plants don't want you to be proactive.  They want you to be an over-attentive boyfriend (sometimes).  You have to read her needs when they come up and NOT piss her off in the middle.   ;)
     
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  15. #15 BloodBooger, Dec 4, 2014
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    You just need to stop feeding.....the most common mistake ALL growers make (and I mean ALL of us have done it) is to overlove our plants...give it too much attention..fiddle with it, think that it always needs a feed....the best thing you can do for your plants is to leave them alone.....dont feed them till much later...you reallyt could get away with giving two feeds during the veg state (thats spread out over 30-60 days) and possibly ewven a single feed during flower of bloom nutes...thats it...anything else risks salt buildup then youre in a world of hurt... and let them get REALLY dry between watering....let the roots get some air....then give them a little drink....small steps.
     
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    ok so just let them dry out anothe rday or so until they are totally dry and then just water plain water for a little while>?
     
    what about the progression of yellowing leaves due to nitrogen def? just hang in there n hopefully the water keeps them ok? 

     
     
    ok so whats your take on my last posT? just plain water after they are dried out?
     
  17. The likely reason they are in nitrogen deficiency is because the uptake of that element is blocked by a build up of salts (feed, nutes) already in your soil which has screwed up the ph of your media...the only way to cure this is by first flushing out the plant with more water than you can reasonably fathom...fresh, clean, clear water....THEN.....you just allow them to dry out..NOT for a "few days", but almost a week...just hang on..it needs to get really dry...THEN, you give them a drink...your soil should have plenty of nitrogen already available in it and your plant will take this up when it is able to do so again on its own...the last thing you want to do is to force feed it more nutes when you have finally solved your problem from overfeeding to begin with.
     
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  18. Yes, yes, twice on Tuesdays, with a rope, because your momma said so, and yes.  
     
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  19. The Marijuana/Cannabis industry is growing by leaps and bounds...seed sellers, nutrient merchants, etc, etc..and what they all have in common is the desire to get you to buy their product...and to do that they make a lot of claims..and some of these are valid., some are inflated...well, most are inflated..if you buy ALL of the top growing books on the market today and look at the sections on nutrients you will see nothing on the use of molassas...but damn near every successful grower I have ever known uses it to boost their plants during flower...a LOT of these companies use mollassas in their mixes but they just dont advertise it as such..thats just an example..now, dont rush out and dose up your plants with molassas, I was just using that as an example....anyweay, these nutrient companies say using their products will make your plants explode with blooms....maybe...if you use very little of it at the right times..but most people buy the stuff, heavily dose their plants and keep dosing until they get into trouble...thats where you currently are...just STOP feeding the plant no matter how much you WANT to...the thing they NEED is to be left alone...and once they catch back up then you can give them a little taste of what you want to...
     
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  20. Thanks dude
    All of you guys have been a big help. I have two new ones starting just broke soil today. I'll follow the barely fed protocol this time.

    I'll post in a fee days more pics of sick plants n hopefully they improve. NOOO WATTER for now.


    Until when though??? Very light pots? Bad curling leaves? Then water??

    Hopefully yellowing holds off enough on the flowering ones so they can finish.
     
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