I give up being a composer

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  1. #1 MattMVS7, Nov 15, 2014
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    My happiness is the only reason for me finding good meaning about me as a person and finding good meaning in this life. Without that, there would be nothing good about me as a person or anything good in my life. I can just use my thoughts alone to perceive me and my life being good even without my pleasure. But these are nothing more than neutral (neither good or bad) thoughts and that would not make me or my life anything good at all regardless of how much I help others and do great things in my life. Therefore, since I no longer have any pleasure 24/7 due to my anhedonia (emotional numbness) in which there are never any brief moments of pleasure to any degree whatsoever, this is why there is no longer anything good about me as a person or my life.  My anhedonia was caused by severe depression which has caused a physiological change in my brain in which I never have any brief moments of pleasure at all.  It has lasted for many months and still has not gotten any better and I'm not sure if it will get any better or even fully recover for that matter.
     
    A life of full pleasure and no suffering and despair is the only greatest life there is.  No one should want to have any lack of pleasure (anhedonia), or any amount of suffering and despair in his/her life whatsoever since all those things are pointless due to the fact that pleasure is the only good thing in life while suffering and despair are the only bad things in life while everything else in life without our pleasure to enjoy them, these things are all neutral (neither good or bad).  People who do find greatness and value in suffering, despair, and a lack of pleasure are delusional and there is nothing good or great about any of it.  I realize that there is no such thing as a life of no suffering, despair, and lack of pleasure.  But the closest thing to having the greatest life would be living a life of much pleasure as possible and as little suffering, despair, and lack of pleasure as possible.  Me living a life of much pleasure and as little suffering, despair, and lack of pleasure as possible is my own greatness in life.  I define my own greatness in life and greatness is something subjective anyway since we all define our own greatness.  As for what I'm saying about pleasure being the only good thing in life, I've scientifically validated that quite well in my earlier explanations.  So even though I am a helping and caring person, I can help and care for others all I want without my ability to experience pleasure and me and my life still won't be anything good at all.  And no one can even define my own greatness either by telling me things such as that they are proud of me for helping others or anything else of the sort.  So I can only define my own greatness since I am only in my own mind and I am not in the minds of others and these other people cannot somehow magically project their positive or even negative value towards me onto me since that is not scientifically possible.  Therefore, it is only my own mind that can give me value, worth, and greatness as a person.  So even if you were a psychopath who harmed others and you told yourself that you were a great person for doing so, then you really would be a great person.  Actually, your own level of pleasure is the only thing that defines your level of greatness.  Again, what I mean by pleasure is all good feelings including love.  I am not referring to only a limited spectrum of good feelings when referring to pleasure.  But I no longer have any pleasure whatsoever which means that I have no good feelings whatsoever including feelings of love in my life.
     
    I would like to say that for you to be offended, irritated, or angry about the fact that my personal issue is presented in a long philosophical form or that you are angry, irritated, or offended by what I'm saying here for some other reason, then that would mean that you are not a full compassionate person in that you do not have full compassion towards my issues and wish to help me out. Imagine if there was a person who was very depressed and said "I am very depressed because I feel that one is inferior and worthless and that one's life is inferior and worthless without his/her pleasure and I wish to talk about my issues here regardless of how long what is that I have to say," would you then make this person feel even more depressed and rejected by scorning upon him/her and being offended by what he/she has to say? Or would you instead not scorn upon this person and try and help him/her out?  Therefore, I will freely speak my mind regardless if it offends you or not.  (NOTE:  This whole issue with being offended is not directed towards people who are nice and wish to help me out such as my parents and/or mental health professionals or even some other people because I know that they would be kind to me in trying to help me out with this issue and won't be offended at all by what it is I'm saying here).   
     
    But if you are going to say something such as that you have every right to be offended, cruel, or a dick to me for any given reason and that people who are the opposite who have full compassion towards my issues here and don't frown upon me at all, that these are somehow the types of people who are pussies, then you are saying here that mental health professionals who would have compassion and such towards my issues (who would be the opposite of what you would refer to as "dicks"), these people are pussies due to the fact that they would be compassionate towards me due to their high intelligence and who they are as people?  So it would appear as though people of low intelligence as well as having little to no experience of depression and/or anhedonia are truly the lesser inferior beings only providing that these people have little to no compassion towards my issues here and frown upon them.  I stated here in my writing that pleasure is the only thing that makes you superior.  However, I will admit though.  I do at least have good and bad value towards humanity even despite the fact that pleasure and suffering are the only good and bad things in life.
     
    My dream in life was to be a composer and I was in the process of learning how to compose. My dream was to be a great composer through my pure pleasure alone because, to me, that is the only thing that defines someone as being great. As a matter of fact, the fact that I had the ability to experience feelings of pleasure so great and profound, this would enable me to be a really great composer who would be able to channel those feelings in creating emotionally powerful compositions. Feelings of depression and anhedonia are not classified as feelings at all. They are the taking away of your pleasure and other emotions. Therefore, they are not anything to tap into and channel in creating any type of emotionally powerful composition. Instead, they make you a lesser person and a lesser composer who can only create compositions through intelligence alone which would be nowhere near great and emotionally powerful as opposed to if you were to create compositions through your profound feelings of pleasure. In other words, even the greatest composers in history who had depression and/or lack of pleasure could of been even better if they had their full pleasure to tap and channel into.  Also, you can compose music that has dark, gothic, and tragic emotion to it through pure pleasure alone anyway (the pleasure of dark, gothic, and tragic things).  You can create these types of music through pure pleasure alone and they can be just as good (and even better) than if you created them through your suffering and despair.  You can also grow as a person just as good and even better under the right circumstances through pure pleasure alone without any suffering or despair in your life since the brain is something you can change at will and you can be a better compassionate person at any given personal level and such through just changing your attitude and through other things in life besides suffering, despair, and a lack of pleasure.  So even me as well as the greatest composers in history could acquire all the musical knowledge they can if they had little to no ability to experience pleasure and compose great pieces of music based on that knowledge.  But it wouldn't be as great if they had both their full pleasure in life and this musical knowledge as well.  Not only would their compositions be less great without their pleasure and/or other emotions including depression and anhedonia which are a lack of pleasure and a lack of emotions, but their lives would also be less great if they had less pleasure in life and their lives would be no good at all if they had no pleasure in life.
     
    I will prove right here how you can grow as a person and be better in other ways without suffering, despair, and a lack of pleasure in your life.  There are people who go through a great amount of suffering and despair and yet, they do not become more compassionate or become a better person in any other sense.  As a matter of fact, they can become less compassionate even towards others who suffer the same things and they instead take out their suffering on other people.  This would be because they have refused to change their attitude in becoming a better person and have refused to become better in any other sense through other means in life besides suffering, despair, and a lack of pleasure.  Therefore, since this holds true, the opposite would hold true as well in that people who have very little suffering and despair in their lives can change their attitude in becoming a better person and better in other ways through other means in life besides suffering, despair, and a lack of pleasure.  So you might be asking why can't I just change my attitude in viewing other things in life greater than my own feelings of pleasure (which would be all good feelings including love since love is also pleasure)?  This would be, again, because my personal experience of pleasure says to me that it is the greatest thing in my life and that I would be the lesser person no matter what for accepting my loss and viewing other things in life to have greater value.  And also because of my personal experience now of depression and severe chronic anhedonia which is the worst experience for me.
     
    But I have given up being a composer right now since my only goal in becoming a composer was to tap into and channel my feelings of pleasure I valued so much and create many different types of music through my pure pleasure alone. Creating music through my suffering is NOT what I want to do and doing so would only make me feel that much worse. To me, music is all about enjoyment and creating music through your pure pleasure alone. I have given up being a composer because me choosing to become a composer brings me nothing but anger and frustration now since I no longer have any pleasure to tap into and channel. I refuse to be the biological robot in a world that absolutely calls for our experience of love and pleasure (which would be the emotional world of composing) who does nothing but creates music through having no pleasure. I will not channel even my own feelings of anger and frustration in creating music because, again, that only makes me feel worse and is not what I wanted to do at all anyway.
     
    Now, if, let's pretend, that I were the greatest composer in the world right now and composed masterpieces, this would actually be the worst moment of my life. This is because these would be the greatest pieces of music I have written and this would be the greatest moment of my life and I am not even allowed to enjoy it to any degree at all. Sure, composing music for other people and bringing them pleasure is good. But music is a very personal emotional thing to me and I must, therefore, experience good feelings from my music. Otherwise, me being a composer is completely pointless and detrimental as it only brings me nothing but rage and frustration knowing that I cannot experience any pleasure from my own compositions whatsoever as well as that I don't have any good feelings to even tap into and channel in creating my compositions which would be much more emotionally powerful since they were created through my emotions (my pleasure) rather than them being created without such feelings.  It's not that I am angry at how others might think of me for being a composer with no pleasure such as that they might look down upon me and such for not creating compositions that are as great as they were if I had my full pleasure in life or anything else of the sort.  I am angry because music and this life are both very precious emotional things to me in which I must experience pleasure from these things since they are the greatest things that I will only be able to live for only once since this is the one and only life I will ever have (since I am an atheist who does not believe in a God or an afterlife or any other such superstition).
     
    Since my personal experience of pleasure was so profound and meaningful to me in the past, then I absolutely cannot just simply ignore this and choose to view other things in life as something greater. This is because I reject doing so and reject being the lesser person with a lesser life as a result. Now if you or anyone else here has found other things in life of greater value than your pleasure (which would include finding greater things in life than even your own feelings of love), then you obviously have not experienced these feelings nearly as profound or meaningful as I have to know that they are truly the only good and greatest things in life.
     
    Some scientists and intelligent people might say that feelings of love and pleasure are nothing more than chemical processes in the brain, that it is nothing more than something used for our survival, and that it is nothing special for these very reasons stated. But there is a big difference between how nonspecial and ungreat love and pleasure are in terms of science and how special and great they are to us based on our own personal experience of these emotions. So this is why these feelings are so special to me and are the greatest things in my life simply because they feel like the most special and greatest things ever experienced. Since these emotions feel like the most special and greatest things to me in life, that is what makes them the most special and greatest things in life. I'm quite sure you have something or someone you view in life as something special and great. Therefore, for you to say that my feelings of love and pleasure are nothing special and great simply because they are chemicals, atoms, and particles would be no different than me saying that those things that you view as special and great are also nothing special and great simply because they are also just chemicals, atoms, and particles.
     
    Now if you can never fully recover your lost love and pleasure, then at least you have spent your entire life by being the superior human being who has tried to fully recover these things. If you are going to say something such as that living your life trying to fully recover these lost feelings instead of accepting this loss and moving on is a wasted life, it's not a wasted life. Like I said before, feelings of love and pleasure are the only greatest aspects of me as a human being and are the only things that make my own personal life worth living. So for me to abandon them and instead live my life for other reasons besides trying to fully recover them, THAT would be the wasted life for me.
     
    Now you might be asking, if pleasure is so important to me, then why can't I compose anyway as a means of trying to seek and bring back my pleasure? This would be because nothing in life can bring back my ability to experience pleasure to any degree whatsoever other than medication, therapy, and possibly electric convulsive therapy which is a shock to the brain.
     
    Now one might say that I am still a good person since I still care and help others anyway. However, to me, someone who helps and cares for others is no better or worse than someone who is a psychopath and kills others.  In other words, who you are as a person and everything else in life is all neutral (neither good or bad) from your perspective and has no effect on your personal value and worth as a person. The only thing that makes you a better or lesser person is your amount of pleasure in life regardless of who you are as a person. Since I have lesser pleasure, that makes me a lesser person than even Hitler himself who has more pleasure in life (although there may be moments where he definitely had bad moments in his life from harming others). I may help and care for others as well as do great things in my life (such as composing), but that is not the same thing as me or my life being anything good. The reason why I say this is because, again, my personal experience of pleasure says this since it was so profound and meaningful to me and there is nothing in life that can ever take place of that regardless of how much I try and change my attitude and other things. I refuse to even try anyway since that would make me the lesser human being with a lesser life as I stated earlier in my writing since there is nothing good at all about me changing and viewing other things in life of greater value than my pleasure.
     
    Now the reason why I say that even Hitler himself is a better person is not only because my personal experience of pleasure says that it is the only thing that defines your own personal value and worth as a human being.  But I also say this because it is an exaggeration and expression of how frustrated and angry I am with my meaningless and worthless life of no pleasure since pleasure is the only greatest thing to me in life.  I will create shock value and revolutionize the perspective of others to make them think twice about them viewing other things in life as greater value than their own pleasure as an expression of my rage and frustration towards my life of no pleasure.  Me expressing this will also be likely to make others take me seriously and realize just how important pleasure is for me in life and make them have compassion and understanding towards my loss of pleasure and just how important pleasure is for me in life.  I am using Hitler here as a compelling means to express how I feel and this is how I truly feel.
     
    I also said before that I have found at least a little bit of value and worth in my life in trying to fully regain my lost pleasure through medication, therapy, etc.  So if this is the case, then why can't I also find greater value and worth towards other things in life than my pleasure?  It would be because it all still comes back to my own personal experience of pleasure being the greatest thing to me in life and my personal experience of how losing that through depression and anhedonia is the worst thing for me.  Therefore, the only life I find to have at least some value and worth would be for me to live my life in trying to fully recover the very thing that made my life worth living and of great value in the first place (which would, again, be my pleasure).  Again, I realize that bringing others pleasure in life is important for them.  But despite the fact that I do value the pleasure of others and view it as important in life to bring them pleasure, this still does not make it anything good from my own perspective since all my thoughts, perceptions, and created meanings are neutral (neither good or bad) and it is only my pleasure that is good since I am not in the minds of others and can't experience their pleasure.  Even me living my life trying to fully regain my lost pleasure is neutral as well at this point.  However, I still do these things anyway since I still value my own pleasure just as much as anyone else's.  But no matter how much value I put towards the pleasure of others, that will never take away from the value I have towards my own pleasure since my personal experience of pleasure says to me that it is the greatest thing for me in life.  So even if I were to have someone in my life whom I have immense value and love towards despite my absence of pleasure (such as my mom or anyone else), I would still feel very depressed and enraged towards my own loss of pleasure despite me living solely to bring these people pleasure.  Also, having less value towards my own pleasure would make me the lesser person with a lesser life as I stated earlier in my writing anyway.  Therefore, me having both full value towards my own pleasure and full value towards the pleasure of others is the closest thing right now to making me a great person despite my own absence of pleasure.  However, I am nowhere near as great as I would be if I had my full pleasure in life right now.  Also, even me perceiving myself as being at least somewhat great for having full value towards my own pleasure and the pleasure of others still does not make me or my life anything good or great at all.  It just simply makes me perceive me and my life as at least being of some value and worth despite the fact that me and my life have absolutely no value and worth without my pleasure.
     
    Some people might tell me to accept a lifelong loss of pleasure that might never recover or even fully recover and to just be at peace and content with my life of anhedonia. These would be the pathetic and inferior human beings for having little to no value towards my feelings of pleasure that I value so greatly and I refuse to stoop down to their level. I refuse to be the inferior human being who accepts this loss. I am not inferior. I am instead a powerful human being for not accepting this loss and trying to fully recover it. Therefore, the closest thing to making me a good person despite my loss of pleasure is for not accepting this loss and living my life in trying to fully recover it. The only way for accepting this loss to make me a good person would be if this acceptance would actually fully bring back my ability to experience pleasure. However, if it turns out that I can never recover my pleasure, then I will actually be utterly inferior and me and my life would no longer have any value at all this time regardless of what attitude I have or what things I do in my life. So the only superior human beings are those who tell me to not accept this loss and try to fully recover it who have compassion towards my loss of pleasure and have immense value towards my pleasure. Therefore, I will specifically seek out these types of people who I deem as superior and cast out the rest (the opposite) who will be deemed as utterly inferior.  I am a megalomaniac who wishes to regain the most important thing to him (which would be my pleasure).  I wish to have power, control, and dominion through pure pleasure alone over my life, over suffering and despair, and over other people who do not wish to help me, who have little to no value towards my pleasure, and who are mean to me.
     
    I am now going to explain something else as to why I value pleasure so much which is that there are characters in anime (Japanese cartoons) that I perceive as superior god-like beings with superior god-like personalities. A few example of these characters are Cell and Vegeta from the anime Dragonball Z. They are examples of the most awesome characters since they are god-like with god-like powers and are megalomaniacs who wish to have power and control in their lives and have superior god-like personalities and wish to obtain god-like powers.
     
    Now there is a term known as "Anthropomorphism" which is when you attribute your perceived personality of other living things, objects, and people, to other living things, objects, and people (including your own self in which you feel like a different person, but you can still act as the exact same person). Therefore, when I had my ability to experience pleasure in the past, I would anthropomorphize these characters as a part of me in order to feel their awesome superior god-like life essence coursing through me. This gave me superior intense god-like feelings of pleasure since I felt like I was these characters. Pleasure, to me, is "life force (essence)" that is the ultimate defining aspect of a human being which will not only make you a human being, but can also enhance you to a level that is beyond human metaphorically speaking (which would be enhanced to the superior god-like status of those characters). These characters were, therefore, a part of my conscious and they have, metaphorically speaking (not literally speaking), bestowed me with their superior god-like life essence. This is what made me feel powerful in a superior god-like sense.
     
    Another example would be with the character Amy Rose (a female hedgehog) from Sonic the Hedgehog. I perceive her as a superior god-like being not only because she is not human, but is an animal-like being in human form which I would define as an "angel" since angels are animal-like beings in human form. She is also a superior god-like being since she has an unreal personality (personalities that most normal human beings don't normally possess). Her personality is very fantasy-like and vigorous. This is unlike the personality of most normal human beings since the personality of most normal human beings are more "settled" and "down to Earth." So it would seem as though the creators of anime make the personality of characters more life-like as well as superior and god-like to match their superior god-like world (environments) as well as their superior god-like forms. Amy (as well as other such innocent god-like characters) display expressions of innocence, love, etc. that is beyond human (more intense) and profound that expresses their world and forms that are also beyond human.
     
    Therefore, I have also embraced Amy as a part of my conscious as well which also made me feel powerful. But it did not make me feel powerful the way those other characters Cell and Vegeta did. Those other characters made me feel an "enraged epic" form of superior god-like pleasure. The form of superior god-like pleasure I have received from Amy would be a feeling of intense innocence and love towards her and towards myself for possessing her life force (her life essence) that was bestowed upon me so to speak.  But now that I have no feelings of love or pleasure whatsoever, I can no longer experience such feelings anymore which now makes me very depressed.
     
    In order for me to anthropomorphize myself as different characters when I had my pleasure in the past, it would all depend on what mood I'm in. If I was in an innocent and loving mood, then my mind would relate that to characters such as Amy and would anthropomorphize myself as Amy herself. Same thing with other characters such as Cell and Vegeta if I were instead in an epic and powerful mood. I could even anthropomorphize myself as different characters by literally acting as such characters in my own mind. However, if I was in a bad mood, my mind would anthropomorphize me with non-anime real-life personalities that I hate.  Now how I feel normally as a person is when I don't have any personalities (anthropomorphizations) applied to me and this is how I feel most of the time throughout the day each day.  But I notice that as I go out and meet new people, my mind will then automatically anthropomorphize me based on my perceived personality through my interaction with this person when I meet with and talk with this person face to face.
     
    Now if you are going to ask something such as why can't I be in these anthropomorphized states all the time?  It would be because my depression and anhedonia prevents this from happening.  It is also because the mind is something that remains stable in a normal mood.  Therefore, those "high" moods and "high" perceptions in which I am anthropomorphized as superior god-like beings, these are unstable mindsets that only last for brief moments.  Other than that, I do not have such personalities attributed to me and I am in a completely stable and pleasureless mindset all throughout the day each day.
     
    Even if these characters I love were to tell me to accept a lifelong loss of pleasure that never gets better or fully recovers, that would not cause me to feel any anger towards them or any disappointment at all towards them whatsoever.  This is obviously because I know who they are and they are superior god-like beings with superior god-like personalities to me no matter what.
     
    Also, it's not how others think of you that determines who you are.  Any personal meanings we create in life are all subjective and personal.  Therefore, you can personalize yourself as being any character without any opinions from others as to who you are from their perspectives. 
     
    Now aside from that, I think you can see now why pleasure is so important to me and why I view it as the sole defining life force of a human being. Without that, then not only am I denied the awesome epic as well as the loving innocence of these superior god-like characters, but I am also denied of my own life essence as a human being that I normally experience on a daily basis through doing activities I enjoy such as playing videogames, etc. Me being denied those things makes me utterly inferior and makes me and my life of no personal value or worth.  My plan was to tap into and channel these superior god-like feelings of pleasure from those superior god-like characters in composing music that is exceptional and beyond human in terms of its powerful conveyed superior god-like emotions and to experience these said feelings through my own created compositions as well as through listening to music. I also wanted to channel and experience my own normal feelings of pleasure as well through composing and listening to music. But this has all failed.
     
    In conclusion, I would like to say that I am a megalomaniac who wishes to regain the most important thing to him (which would be my pleasure). I wish to have power, control, and dominion through pure pleasure alone over my life, over suffering and despair, and over other people who do not wish to help me, who have little to no value towards my pleasure, and who are mean to me. I will NOT be content, be at peace, or accept my life until I have my pleasure back. Even now as I am saying this, my own personality is being anthropomorhpized as Vegeta who is a psychopath who will not back down until he has his "powers" back and is able to rule and dominate over his life again. It's just my own personality that is being anthropomorphized as Vegeta's and not my pleasure since I don't have any pleasure at the moment. But I swear, I will try all I can to regain my lost "powers" (my pleasure) and I will rule and dominate over this life through my pleasure in composing and through just being happy in life in general with very little suffering and despair in my life. And THEN I can experience the awesome life essence (pleasure) of these superior god-like characters as well as my own normal human pleasure once again.  
     
    If I live my life accepting my loss of pleasure and not doing anything to try and regain it, then my mind will give me anthropomorphizations (personalities attributed to me) that I hate.  But if I live my life not accepting it and become "enraged" to try to gain it back through therapy, medication, etc., then my mind will give me personalities that I love such as the personality of Vegeta (although I cannot feel pleasure from these personalities at the moment).  So this is a main reason why I will only choose to live my life in ways that will give me attributed personalities that I love.  Otherwise, I will instead have attributed inferior personalities that I hate and will forever hate myself and my life as a result.  Just like how I hate people who have little to no value towards my feelings of pleasure who tell me to accept, be at peace, and be content with a lifelong loss of pleasure that never gets better or fully recovers, these anthropomorphizations (attributed personalities) are also exactly the same in that sense.  In other words, I would have become these very people I hate by living my life through acceptance, being at peace, and being content with a lifelong loss of pleasure that never gets better or fully recovers.  Also, I will only be fine when my full pleasure is brought back to me because that is when I would be back to my complete self once again.
     
    You can do either one of four things here at this point if you have lost the truly greatest thing in your life.  You can either: 1.) Find greater value in other things in life than your pleasure (which doesn't exist at all for me nor will it ever) 2.) Live your life trying to gain back what you lost 3.) Live your life as a whiny complaining child and be deemed by others as just an inferior whiny spoiled brat or 4.) In the event that one cannot gain back his/her loss, then become someone who is at least somewhat superior and great before his/her death despite his/her absence of pleasure through being a psychopath like Hitler who demands his/her life back (which would be my life of pleasure) who deems people as inferior who have little to no value towards his/her pleasure and towards his/her loss of pleasure and seeks out such people and slaughters them before slaughtering his/herself.  In other words, take others with him/her to his/her death since pleasure was the only greatest thing to him/her in life and, without the ability to ever recover it, then his/her life is worth ending as well as ending the lives of those other people I mentioned.  
     
    I should also say something else very important here which is that Hitler would only be superior for having pleasure and also only if he killed off the types of people I mentioned here.  But aside from his pleasure, Hitler would not be anyone superior for having killed genuinely innocent and compassionate people.  However, he would be superior for wanting power and control in his life.  Therefore, there are 3 parallel aspects of Hitler that define his personal value and worth as a human being:  1.) His amount of pleasure in life 2.) The fact that he killed innocent people which made him a bad person in one sense 3.) The fact that he lived his life wanting and having power and control in his life which made him superior in another sense.  So you might then be asking between #2 and #3 as to whether he would be considered a superior or inferior person.  The answer to that would be that you can look at it either way.  But like I said, pleasure is what really defines your personal value and worth as a human being and all other things in life such as who you are as a person are all neutral (neither good or bad).  The reason why I say that Hitler would either be a good or bad person anyway is simply because this is how I would feel when the fact of the matter is that all those other things in life besides your own pleasure and suffering are all neutral.
     
    Now in my paragraph above my previous one I just made, #2 and #4 apply to me (#4 only being an absolute last resort).  I know I said earlier in my writing that I would never harm myself or others.  However, if it comes down to me never being able to significantly recover my pleasure, then that is when I will be brought to the point of harming myself and others (but only towards those people whom I deem as inferior that I pointed out earlier in my writing).  But fortunately, I don't think it can ever be proven as to whether I will or I won't significantly or fully recover my pleasure since there are people who live many years with little to no pleasure and yet find significant and even full recovery later on in life.  So I don't think I have to worry about #4 ever happening.
     
    Also, all our personal values are subjective in life anyway and hold true only for ourselves and are not objectively true.  Yes, others do matter from my perspective and I am already helping others in addition to talking out my issues here.  And even if I didn't help and care for others anyway, the opinion of others would not make me a good or bad person since it is only their own perspectives.  I am only in my own mind and not in the minds of others.  Therefore, only my own personal value attributed to me holds true for me and the opinions of others (whether they be positive or negative) can never be somehow magically projected onto me and make me that person since it is not scientifically possible to do so.  So one's greatness is all subjective. Therefore, if you think that living a happy life free of suffering and despair makes you great and that composing through pure pleasure alone makes you great just in terms of being able to tap into and channel those feelings you want in composing the music you want (or, in this case, I should say through living a life of very little suffering and despair since it is impossible to live a life of absolutely no suffering and despair), then this would make you great in that sense.  But like I said before, only pleasure is greatness and all other aspects you define in life as being great are all neutral.
     
    Again, same thing with my pleasure in that only my own pleasure matters and makes me a good person since pleasure is the only thing that defines "good."  I can live my life valuing the pleasure of others.  But all thoughts and personal meanings we create in life are all neutral.  Therefore, even my own value towards the pleasure of others is neutral even if I were to tell myself the message such as that "At least I have given others pleasure because it is good for them despite my own absence of pleasure."  I am not in the minds of those other people and cannot experience their pleasure.  Therefore, it is only my own pleasure that is good.  Even if it were pleasure that is obtained from either witnessing others experiencing pleasure or even me obtaining pleasure from harming others.  Even if I were somehow a psychopath right now who obtains pleasure from harming others, I would still be a good person since my own pleasure is the only thing that defines me and my life as being good.  Also, all these stories (explanations) I'm making are my own personal philosophies.  I have never studied up on philosophy or even science.  All these philosophies I made all come from my own personal profound experience of pleasure in life and just how great it was to me and also my personal experience now of depression and anhedonia which is the worst experience for me.
     
    One might also say something such as that since there is no grand purpose in this universe in which we must live worthwhile lives or experience pleasure all our lives with as little suffering and despair as possible, that it would then be absurd for me to obsess over pleasure and obsess over living a nice happy life with as little suffering, despair, and lack of pleasure as possible since all these things are just temporary and/or unimportant and will just die out anyway when I die.  And that I should instead focus and value other things in life greater than my pleasure such as helping others and doing other great things in my life anyway (such as composing).  First off, all those other things besides my pleasure will also die out in the end as well and they have no grand special purpose either.  Second, my personal experience of pleasure absolutely prohibits me from having little to no value towards my pleasure and prohibits me from being at peace and content with living a life of no pleasure.  As a result, I would be completely enraged if I had to live my life many years with this anhedonia for living a life that is worthless regardless of how much I help others and do great things in my life anyway.  I am also an atheist which makes me even more enraged since I am unable to experience pleasure both in this life as well as in an eternal life of joy which would be heaven (which I now know is a false promised afterlife).
     
    Another reason one might state as to why pleasure is not all that important is because it is so very fleeting for many people.  That there are so many people with depression, anhedonia, and lack of pleasure in life who have to still make do and make the best of their lives anyway.  And that, since other things in life besides one's pleasure such as his/her attitude, helping others, and doing great things in his/her life, since these things are everlasting for one's entire life and are not fleeting things like pleasure, that this somehow makes these other things greater than one's own pleasure.  First off, just because something is fleeting does not make it less important at all.  Second, based on everything I've said about how your own pleasure is really the most important thing in life, then it's obviously quite unfortunate that pleasure is not everlasting and that those other things besides pleasure are not the fleeting things instead since they are all neutral things without one's own pleasure to enjoy them in the first place.  Although, both things being everlasting would truly be the greatest thing and would truly be the beneficial thing for one's own wellbeing and for one's own ability to enjoy life.
     
    Finally, although I am an atheist, I do have a religious metaphor to describe how vital pleasure is for me as a person and for my life.  Pleasure, to me, is life force bestowed upon me by a higher power (God) which makes me a god-like being as well and is what defines me as a human being because my personal experience of it says so.  I have obviously experienced god-like feelings of pleasure from superior god-like characters in the world of anime as I've mentioned before.  So this is a reason why pleasure also makes me a god and is also a superior god-like experience (a superior god-like life force bestowed upon me) as well.  All other aspects of me as a human being such as my attitude are nothing more than biological "robotic" mechanical functions that don't make me or my life anything good regardless of how much I use these other functions to help others and do other great things in my life.  Therefore, my life and my personal value and worth as a human being are solely based on the level of pleasure I have in life (and in my attitude to some degree of me trying to fully regain my pleasure including my attitude in helping and valuing others.  Although even my own attitude here is still neutral although I do have value towards myself and my life anyway for me trying to fully regain my pleasure and have immense value towards the idea of me being completely back to normal with my full ability to enjoy life once again).  But like I said before, if it were somehow proven to me that I will never recover my pleasure, then me and my life would no longer have any personal value or worth to me whatsoever and I would become a psychopath as a result.  But fortunately, you should consider me lucky since I don't think such a thing will ever be proven to me.

     
  2. Maybe you should become a novelist. 
     
  3. Fuck you dad, I'm dropping out of school and becoming a DJ!

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  4. They still do shock therapy?  Why are you comparing yourself to Hitler?  I thought that you were going to talk about writing musical compositions.  If you want to be "the greatest" at something, such as composing, it takes a lot of work, and i mean a LOT, and that may do you some good and help to change your mind about some things that are bothering you.  Good luck.
     
  5. You and I think very alike. I'm guessing you think with a logical, almost Darwinistic mind. In your life, the only thing that really matters to you is your pleasure, that's just the way you think. I used to think only that way, but it is now impossible for me to put pleasure on a pedestal anymore because of one simple statement:
    Life is what you make of it
    One's outlook on life is entirely subjective. When something happens to you, no matter what happens it is always neither good or bad. You simply perceive it as good because it benefits you in some way or bad because it is a detriment in some way, but regardless it will never be only good or only bad. I haven't had a problem feeling pleasure in life since I realized this because there will always be good and bad aspects of everything that happens to me, I just choose to focus more on the good than the bad.
    It looks to me like you either have an overwhelmingly negative outlook on life or you have a dopamine deficiency. Regardless of what it is that is the problem it sounds to me like nobody here can help you. I say so because the way you present yourself it seems as though you don't want help, or you won't actually take anybody's suggestions if you do want help.
    If you do seek advice and are willing to try it, my advice is:
    Quit trying to help others if you can't help yourself. From personal experience I know that helping others amidst your own issues just makes you feel worse about yourself. For me it was because I felt as though I was helping others, yet nobody would return the favor for me. Looking back I realize that my helping others turned into those people using me as a therapist, rather than handling their own problems.
    Raise your self-esteem. Clearly by the way to write of yourself you have a very low self-esteem. Nobody tells other people how much they hate themselves unless they really hate themselves (or are looking for attention, but I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt on that one). Remember all the things you've accomplished better than others and take pride in them, after all you did do those things better than the other people.
    Don't put such a high emphasis on pleasure. You said that the point of living as a human is to seek pleasure, but you could not be more wrong. The point of living as any creature is to survive, and survival is very unpleasant usually. Now that we live in a modern time where survival is so easy it is almost accidental, pleasure is easier to come by because survival is no longer an issue with humans. Regardless of the science behind it, though, read this sentence and mull it over for a bit: If life had no hardships, then what would there be to enjoy about it? You can't have pleasure without pain, just like you can't have life without death. If you only felt pleasure all your life then what would there be left to strive for?
    All in all you just need to change your outlook on life.
     
  6. ^ fucking nailed it.
     
  7. the older you become, the more you give up
     
    welcome
     
  8. #8 MattMVS7, Nov 16, 2014
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    One more thing I would like to add is that some people might tell me to accept a lifelong loss of pleasure that might never recover or even fully recover and to just be at peace and content with my life of anhedonia.  These would be the pathetic and inferior human beings for having little to no value towards my feelings of pleasure that I value so greatly and I refuse to stoop down to their level.  I refuse to be the inferior human being who accepts this loss.  I am not inferior.  I am instead a powerful human being for not accepting this loss and trying to fully recover it.  Therefore, the closest thing to making me a good person despite my loss of pleasure is for not accepting this loss and living my life in trying to fully recover it.  The only way for accepting this loss to make me a good person would be if this acceptance would actually fully bring back my ability to experience pleasure.  However, if it turns out that I can never recover my pleasure, then I will actually be utterly inferior and me and my life would no longer have any value at all this time regardless of what attitude I have or what things I do in my life.  So the only superior human beings are those who tell me to not accept this loss and try to fully recover it who have compassion towards my loss of pleasure and have immense value towards my pleasure.  Therefore, I will specifically seek out these types of people who I deem as superior and cast out the rest (the opposite) who will be deemed as utterly inferior.
    \nAlso, you can compose music that has dark, gothic, and tragic emotion to it through pure pleasure alone anyway (the pleasure of dark, gothic, and tragic things).  You can create these types of music through pure pleasure alone and they can be just as good (and even better) than if you created them through your suffering and despair.  You can also grow as a person just as good and even better under the right circumstances through pure pleasure alone without any suffering or despair in your life since the brain is something you can change at will and you can be a better compassionate person at any given personal level and such through just changing your attitude and through other things in life besides suffering, despair, and a lack of pleasure.
    \nFinally, who you are as a person and everything else in life is all neutral (neither good or bad) from your perspective and has no effect on your personal value and worth as a person. The only thing that makes you a better or lesser person is your amount of pleasure in life regardless of who you are as a person.
     
  9. I stand firm by my previous statement, but you're really giving a mixed message here. So do you hate yourself or do you idolize yourself? I've grown confused.
    Regardless you are becoming the person you say you don't want to be: by giving up composing you are letting your condition get the better of you and thus becoming an "inferior" human by your own standards.
    If all you seek now for pleasure is the composure of music then my only advice is this: Listen to all your favorite songs of each of your favorite genres of music, then afterward smoke a dank bowl and think about the music you listened to. At the very least you should be able to mentally alter the songs you listened to, and that my friend is the first step to original and good composure: being able to compose something new for something old (like a self-made guitar solo for a song you really enjoy). From there all the pieces should fall into their places the more you practice. You don't need pleasure to listen to music and get high, just a general sense of how music works
     
  10. #10 MattMVS7, Nov 16, 2014
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    I will prove right here how you can grow as a person and be better in other ways without suffering, despair, and a lack of pleasure in your life.  There are people who go through a great amount of suffering and despair and yet, they do not become more compassionate or become a better person in any other sense.  As a matter of fact, they can become less compassionate even towards others who suffer the same things and they instead take out their suffering on other people.  This would be because they have refused to change their attitude in becoming a better person and have refused to become better in any other sense through other means in life besides suffering, despair, and a lack of pleasure.  Therefore, since this holds true, the opposite would hold true as well in that people who have very little suffering and despair in their lives can change their attitude in becoming a better person and better in other ways through other means in life besides suffering, despair, and a lack of pleasure.
     
    I am a megalomaniac who wishes to regain the most important thing to him (which would be my pleasure).  I wish to have power, control, and dominion through pure pleasure alone over my life, over suffering and despair, and over other people who do not wish to help me, who have little to no value towards my pleasure, and who are mean to me.
     
  11. Introspection, my fellow blade, introspection.
    Based purely upon what I have read that you've posted, you seem to be the person described by the above quote, but you either ignore it or don't realize it is so. Like I said: Life is what you make of it. Your last post even hints at this. Whatever it is that is ailing your ability to feel pleasure, I'm sure it will pass with time. Just live your life the same way you have always lived it, but keep in mind that you will only ever feel as happy/sad/angry/horny/alive as you allow yourself to feel.
    I know it seems silly to even speculate on the idea of this, but just trust me: Tomorrow just try to tell yourself I am going to have a good day, and whenever anything bad happens try to think about all the good things that have happened in the recent past instead. I always thought trying something like that would be a foolish waste of time, but I learned I was quite wrong after trying so myself. I wish you the best of luck.
     
  12. I am now going to explain something else as to why I value pleasure so much which is that there are characters in anime (Japanese cartoons) that I perceive as superior god-like beings with superior god-like personalities. A few example of these characters are Cell and Vegeta from the anime Dragonball Z. They are examples of the most awesome characters since they are god-like with god-like powers and are megalomaniacs who wish to have power and control in their lives and have superior god-like personalities and wish to obtain god-like powers.
    \nNow there is a term known as "Anthropomorphism" which is when you attribute your perceived personality of other living things, objects, and people, to other living things, objects, and people (including your own self in which you feel like a different person, but you can still act as the exact same person). Therefore, when I had my ability to experience pleasure in the past, I would anthropomorphize these characters as a part of me in order to feel their awesome superior god-like life essence coursing through me. This gave me superior intense god-like feelings of pleasure since I felt like I was these characters. Pleasure, to me, is "life force (essence)" that is the ultimate defining aspect of a human being which will not only make you a human being, but can also enhance you to a level that is beyond human metaphorically speaking (which would be enhanced to the superior god-like status of those characters). These characters were, therefore, a part of my conscious and they have, metaphorically speaking (not literally speaking), bestowed me with their superior god-like life essence. This is what made me feel powerful in a superior god-like sense.
    \nAnother example would be with the character Amy Rose (a female hedgehog) from Sonic the Hedgehog. I perceive her as a superior god-like being not only because she is not human, but is an animal-like being in human form which I would define as an "angel" since angels are animal-like beings in human form. She is also a superior god-like being since she has an unreal personality (personalities that normal human beings don't normally possess). Her personality is very fantasy-like and vigorous. This is unlike the personality of normal human beings since the personality of normal human beings are more "settled" and "down to Earth." So it would seem as though the creators of anime make the personality of characters more life-like as well as superior and god-like to match their superior god-like world (environments) as well as their superior god-like forms. Amy (as well as other such innocent god-like characters) display expressions of innocence, love, etc. that is beyond human (more intense) and profound that expresses their world and forms that are also beyond human.
    \nTherefore, I have also embraced Amy as a part of my conscious as well which also made me feel powerful. But it did not make me feel powerful the way those other characters Cell and Vegeta did. Those other characters made me feel an "enraged epic" form of superior god-like pleasure. The form of superior god-like pleasure I have received from Amy would be a feeling of intense innocence and love.
    \nIn order for me to anthropomorphize myself as different characters when I had my pleasure in the past, it would all depend on what mood I'm in. If I was in an innocent and loving mood, then my mind would relate that to characters such as Amy and would anthropomorphize myself as Amy herself. Same thing with other characters such as Cell and Vegeta if I were instead in an epic and powerful mood. I could even anthropomorphize myself as different characters by literally acting as such characters in my own mind. However, if I was in a bad mood, my mind would anthropomorphize me with non-anime real-life personalities that I hate.  Now how I feel normally as a person is when I don't have any personalities (anthropomorphizations) applied to me and this is how I feel most of the time throughout the day each day.  But I notice that as I go out and meet new people, my mind will then automatically anthropomorphize me based on my perceived personality through my interaction with this person when I meet with and talk with this person face to face.
    \nEven if these characters I love were to tell me to accept a lifelong loss of pleasure that never gets better or fully recovers, that would not cause me to feel any anger towards them or any disappointment at all towards them whatsoever.  This is obviously because I know who they are and they are superior god-like beings with superior god-like personalities to me no matter what.
    \nNow aside from that, I think you can see now why pleasure is so important to me and why I view it as the sole defining life force of a human being. Without that, then not only am I denied the awesome epic as well as the loving innocence of these superior god-like characters, but I am also denied of my own life essence as a human being that I normally experience on a daily basis through doing activities I enjoy such as playing videogames, etc. My plan was to tap into and channel these superior god-like feelings of pleasure from those superior god-like characters in composing music that is exceptional and beyond human in terms of its powerful conveyed superior god-like emotions and to experience these said feelings through my own created compositions as well as through listening to music. I also wanted to channel and experience my own normal feelings of pleasure as well through composing and listening to music. But this has all failed.
    \nIn conclusion, I would like to say that I am a megalomaniac who wishes to regain the most important thing to him (which would be my pleasure). I wish to have power, control, and dominion through pure pleasure alone over my life, over suffering and despair, and over other people who do not wish to help me, who have little to no value towards my pleasure, and who are mean to me. I will NOT be content, be at peace, or accept my life until I have my pleasure back. Even now as I am saying this, my own personality is being anthropomorhpized as Vegeta who is a psychopath who will not back down until he has his "powers" back and is able to rule and dominate over his life again. It's just my own personality that is being anthropomorphized as Vegeta's and not my pleasure since I don't have any pleasure at the moment. But I swear, I will try all I can to regain my lost "powers" (my pleasure) and I will rule and dominate over this life through my pleasure in composing and through just being happy in life in general with very little suffering and despair in my life. And THEN I can experience the awesome life essence (pleasure) of these superior god-like characters as well as my own normal human pleasure once again.  
    \nIf I live my life accepting my loss of pleasure and not doing anything to try and regain it, then my mind will give me anthropomorphizations (personalities attributed to me) that I hate.  But if I live my life not accepting it and become "enraged" to try to gain it back through therapy, medication, etc., then my mind will give me personalities that I love such as the personality of Vegeta (although I cannot feel pleasure from these personalities at the moment).  So this is a main reason why I will only choose to live my life in ways that will give me attributed personalities that I love.  Otherwise, I will instead have attributed inferior personalities that I hate and will forever hate myself and my life as a result.  Just like how I hate people who have little to no value towards my feelings of pleasure who tell me to accept, be at peace, and be content with a lifelong loss of pleasure that never gets better or fully recovers, these anthropomorphizations (attributed personalities) are also exactly the same in that sense.  In other words, I would have become these very people I hate by living my life through acceptance, being at peace, and being content with a lifelong loss of pleasure that never gets better or fully recovers.
     
  13. Great, another megalomaniac wanna be ...
     
  14. TL; Shot Myself
     
  15. Amp live is my favorite composer


    Canna community
     
  16. I don't have the time or the patience to explain how lame you are vato!
    Hang yerself!
     
  17. that's for real bro you got some fucking problems look I'm trying to read through these posts years bro and I I don't have the patience or the attention span and I don't think anyone else does either it's like you scroll down through four pages or something you read a few words you scroll through another four pages to read a few words...


     
  18. #19 MattMVS7, Nov 16, 2014
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    I would like to say that for you to be offended, irritated, or angry about the fact that my personal issue is presented in a long philosophical form or that you are angry, irritated, or offended by what I'm saying here for some other reason, then that would mean that you are not a full compassionate person in that you do not have full compassion towards my issues and wish to help me out. Imagine if there was a person who was very depressed and said "I am very depressed because I feel that one is inferior and worthless and that one's life is inferior and worthless without his/her pleasure and I wish to talk about my issues here regardless of how long what is that I have to say," would you then make this person feel even more depressed and rejected by scorning upon him/her and being offended by what he/she has to say? Or would you instead not scorn upon this person and try and help him/her out?  Therefore, I will freely speak my mind regardless if it offends you or not.  (NOTE:  This whole issue with being offended is not directed towards people who are nice and wish to help me out such as my parents and/or mental health professionals or even some other people because I know that they would be kind to me in trying to help me out with this issue and won't be offended at all by what it is I'm saying here).
     
  19. I'm not offended I'm just a blunt dick and you pussies don't like dicks because frankly pussies get fucked by dicks...


    Anyhow you should just Git high n smile happiness takes effort every day stop waiting for some kind of Happyland Disney bullshit to happen around you! N just smile homie! or give up
     

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