Newbie first room setup.

Discussion in 'Grow Room Design/Setup' started by Midpoint, Nov 13, 2014.

  1. #1 Midpoint, Nov 13, 2014
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    So I'm in the process of setting up my first grow. I'm framing a room within my attached garage that will be 13x10 then splitting the room in two, an 8x10 flower room then a 5x10 veg, clone, mom, storage room. Im finishing the framing tonight, the electrician is coming Saturday. I've order a 8 bulp 4 foot T5 panel for my main veg light. I've got heaters my carbon filter a 1000watt cool tube hps ballast on the way. I'm hoping to start my veg soon and then finish up the other room soon before they are ready to go in. Getting my card Saturday so I'm legit, I'm also on the Seattle area just for reference.

    I plan on growing in soil, 6 plants to start. I'm a newbie that's been helping friends a little so I'm somewhat familiar with growing but I'm just excited to learn. I have one good experienced friend that is helping out. I plan on setting up my carbon filter in the corner of the room high, with an 8" fan pulling air through the filter then pushing it through my light and exhaust out of the room. I'm still trying to figure out intake. Is it a must to pull air directly from outside? It can get rather cold in the winter what issues could I run into potientally taking air as cold as 20 degrees into my room? I'm going to be posting updates and trying to gather more information. Anybody have any links to good videos or pictures showing this kind of set up? What am I not thinking about that I should be? I apologize for the sideways pictures.


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  2. If you pull air from the remaining section of the garage that should buffer the air so it's not quite as cold, your gonna want to exchange air about once every five min so you may also need a speed control on the fan, you can also put the fan on a timer in sync with lights and then run your "day light" hours in the coldest parts of the night to keep Temps inside room up.
     
  3. #3 Midpoint, Nov 13, 2014
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    Thanks. I've thought about pulling air from the garage itself but a few friends kinda warned against it so I wasn't sure. My carbon filter is 750 CFMs so the fan i get will be around that, 8" then a 6" intake fan. I thought pulling from the garage would be better but wasn't sure its at least 10 to 15 degrees warmer in there than outside in winter. I was also under the impression id want my fan to be running 24/7. Could I slow it down during the plants "night" (actual day time) to hold temps better automatically somehow?
     
  4. You actually want your carbon filter to have a higher cfm rating then your fan (less strain on the fan motor) I would think that pulling air from the garage would be ok unless your storing hazardous materials in it? As far as being able automate the fan switching I'm sure there is a way I'm just not sure of what

    Another option would be to run a co2 setup if you had the extra money to spend
     
  5. What about doing a passive intake from the wall connecting to the house (assuming this is an attached garage) that way you are pulling in warm air from the house during winter months and summer months have a passive intake from the exterior wall ?

    Also you may want to add more lighting to both rooms

    I'd say atleast double what ya have unless your only gonna run a few plants to get optimum lighting?

    I would also suggest that the OSB get some form of water protection on it so the humidity doesn't soak into it?
     
  6. Great things to consider. I asked my knowledgeable friend if pulling air from the house was a good move and never really got an answer. I'm starting with 6 plants at least that's my plan. I'm gonna add another 1000 watts to my flower room after my first couple runs. Adding co2 possibly and for sure an ac by summer. No hazard material in my garage so for right now I'll pull air from there. For my fan I was thinking of 745 8" to my 8" carbon filter rated at 750. Or should I be thinking smaller fan? I'm open to pulling air from my house if thats a better move. It would be ducted maybe 10 feet into the room.
     
  7. You want to over size the filter to the fan cfm rating it will last longer and not put the strain on the motor making that last longer
     
  8. Got her sheeted and wired. Caulking it now gonna get some white paint in there soon.

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  9. Looks like you've made some progress to your room
     
  10. #10 Midpoint, Nov 22, 2014
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    I'm getting there.  A question I have, I'm still trying to decide what size and strength fan I need to ventilate my room.  The flower room is a 13 x almost 8' wide and 8' tall space.  832 sq feet.  I was orginally thinking an 8" exhaust fan rated at 740 cfms on a dail.  I would never run it at full strength I don't imagine.   I went ahead and orderd an 8" 750 CFM phresh filter.  Now I was wondering if that 8" exhaust fan would be overkill?    I am going to be running a 6" intake fan on the flower side only.   Here's some updated pictures.  First coat on three of the flower side walls.  Made me a shelf for the vegging plants to grow on, then I can do my clones underneath with it's own light.    Hilarious I thought I'd only need 1 gallon of paint.  Gonna get some concrete floor paint also and do the floor up.  Getting so close to actually getting some clones!  Crazy how much brighter this ultra bright paint makes this, it's gonna be crazy with my 1000 watt in there.  Thinking I'll get 6 clones of blue dream sometime in early December.  I've been working my job 5am till 3pm then on this till I pass out for a while now.  It's getting so close. 
     
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  11. #11 Midpoint, Nov 25, 2014
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    Another update. Got my 6 starts coming in Saturday. Anybody think a 6" exhaust and 4" intake would work?

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  12. Nice space, the only fuck up I see in your plan is a real big one.
     
     
    And there it as..... all that work and you throw dirt in it.... Sad. :(
     
  13. Lookin good, man! Keep up the good work!
     
  14. Okay since I am a novice can you maybe educate me on why I should go a different route. I've never grown so Ive been told soil is best for a novice. I planned on doing either automatic watering in soil or full hydro after I master the basics. But I'm open to any and all advice so please elaborate.
     
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    Do the soil and do a 5 gallon test tub.... like this kit for $37
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/6-SITE-HYDROPONIC-GROW-BOX-SYSTEM-KIT-5-GALLON-COMPLETE-W-NUTRIENTS-pH-TEST-/161485009098?pt=US_Hydroponics&hash=item259941b0ca
     
    You see how simple it is and how fast the plants grow you will put the dirt outside. LOL
     
    Soil has problems that make it next to impossible to fix. You certainly will never water automatically in soil.
    The growth rates in soil are fine outside in the sun but not worth a shit indoors under lights.
     
    You have no control of nutrient uptake, none. Soils a bug farm pain in the ass and expensive. One mistake and you flush and will have stunted drowning plants for weeks. In hydro you change to soup in 5 minutes you are back in control.
     
    Buckets, net pots,hydroton clay balls,air pumps,air lines and air stones, ph & TDS meters, nutrients. thats all it takes. It cost about $15 a bucket at first then you can add buckets for $8 or so.
     
    the yield averages 125%-150% of a soil grow.
     
  16. Haven't posted as you can see I've been busy. Almost done with the veg side the whole room should be complete by early January, hopefully I will put these girls into bud mid January. I'm learning, I can't wait for this next couple of months.


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