Pro life or pro chocie?

yurigadaisukida · Feb 4, 2015

Just gonna leave this here.

Pro choice people are funny

yurigadaisukida said:

Lets review some of the pro choice arguments.

A zygote can't survive outside the mother; therefore it is part of the mother. However, after it has the ability to survive outside the mother (independent viability), it becomes its own entity.

Furthermore, once the organism has memory and feeling, it becomes wrong to harm it.

So many problems. Where to begin.

A premature birth almost always results in death. Today this is not the case thanks to technology. If you were arguing from the perspective of wild humans, independant viability wouldn't even be a thing. A tiny percent of preterm would survive.

Using technology however we've proven that we can even grow human organs and keep them alive. Hypothetically, the technology to extract the fetus and bring it to term should already be viable, if not coming in the near future.

Therefore the independent viability logic doesn't exactly hold up. Because the time at which an organism is independently viable, depends heavily upon technology.

Do you believe abortion should be made illegal if the technology to bring a zygote to term was readily available?

Now lets review the arguments from emotion and other fallacies the pro choice crowd is guilty of.

Pro life is not anti choice. That's a strawman. If abortions are murder, then it shouldnt be a choice. Even the term pro choice is insensitive of the opposing side's perspective.

In fact, the entire "choice" argument is based on the idea that when an ogranism is "technically" alive, is subjective. But pro "choice" people are quick to say abortion should be illegal (and thus take away another's choice) after x point based on their subjective opinion.

So basically its morality by majority. You get your rights when the voters say you do. Might makes right.

"Would you force a woman to have her diseased rape baby?!"

This is an incredibly emotionally charged argument that is also a strawman.

Its not "force". That's a strawman. The pro life stance is based on the premise that a fetus is a human with rights. Therefore its not forcing you, its just saying "killing humans is wrong". Saying "killing humans is wrong", isn't taking away peoples right to choice.

Also the fact that the baby is from a rape is an argument from emotion. The fact that the woman was raped is tragic, but does not give the woman the right to kill a child. If a fetus is a child, then it doesn't matter if the woman was raped or not. Its not the baby's fault.

So basically, the entire pro life pro choice debate, revolves around only one thing. When a human "obtains" rights.

Pro life: humans have their rights upon creation. They are "birth rights"

Pro choice: women get to chose when to give the fetus rights. Its not a human until they (or the law) says they are.

-yuri
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-yuri

ashmagic487 · Feb 4, 2015

yurigadaisukida said:

LOL. Red Herring fallacy

Once again I admit to this. You are still dodging the fact that you've been served.

Care to.comment on what I actually posted before? Didn't think so.

Pro choice = opinion and emotion over logic

-yuri
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Who the fuck are you to determine what is logical?

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Chunk · Feb 4, 2015

60+ pages of arguing........meh, this thread has run it's course.

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