Dark circles developing around eyes? Please help

Discussion in 'Fitness, Health & Nutrition' started by elputojefe, Oct 27, 2014.

  1. So I have noticed that over the last year darkness below my eyes has steadily moved up the insides of my eye sockets and now looks like it is spreading above my eyes as well.  In addition, my eyelids have become wrinkly and kind of droopy.  I know some hard drugs can wear away facial features but I am wondering if abusing marijuana could be causing this darkness.  I don't know if I am technically abusing the herb but most likely am.  I have been smoking basically every day for 2-3 years or so now with some short breaks here and there.  So can abusing it cause dark circles?  I also heard or read somewhere that being high can prevent you from entering deep sleep (REM sleep I think), and since dark circles are symptomatic of sleep deprivation, could this be my problem?  For the record, I almost always toke up 1-2 hours before bed so I certainly fall asleep high.  If anyone has some experience with this issue and how to solve it, I would greatly appreciate any information.  
     
    A few relevant facts about me:
    • 21 year old, fair-skinned male
    • generally very healthy, I eat a balanced diet, exercise, rarely drink alcohol, don't use tobacco
    • drink a lot of water, although maybe not enough if toking dehydrates you
    • don't use any substances/medications other than ganj
    • been toking for about 5 and a half years
    • sleep 6-8 hours every day

     
  2. Could be hereditary, do your parents have them?
     
  3. hm.. .i don't think there's any research to suggest that weed can cause dark circles under the eyes.
     
    the things you've listed all point to the fact that you seem to have a decent lifestyle and you are young enough to not have this be an age-related condition.
     
    so of things like getting good quality sleep (regularly) and proper diet (cut out smoking cigarettes and alcohol, eat more natural healthy foods) i'd say if you have all that covered then there are couple of more things to consider:
     
    1. iron deficiency
    2. strong/serious allergies
     
    p.s. also depending on where you live and if you can go out in the sun more or at least fresh air. for an hour a day.. .run, walk whatever. try not to spend all your days indoors. 
     
  4. I don't think it is hereditary because mine are much worse than my parents who are 60 years old.  It is almost impossible to be diet-related because I eat all kinds of whole, natural foods so I get all my minerals and vitamins.  I am thinking it has something to do with being high when I go to sleep cuz when I blaze my eye-lids feel kind of stingy/burny like they are being overworked, and I thought abusing any kind of substances affects the quality of your sleep.  I just want these to stop getting worse and go away cuz it looks mad sketchy having these rocky racoon eyes haha.
     
  5. Its actually really.common for weed smokers tto get dark circles

    Maybe you can't find a scientific study, but that's because you don't need one.

    Its plain as day. Some people get dark circles only when they smoke. I'm one of them. They clear up when I havnt been smoking and come.right back when I smoke. same with others I have known

    -yuri
     
  6.  
    that doesn't really help... and personally i'd like an understanding of what exactly would cause the dark circles.
    knowing the reason helps to treat the problem.
    if it's some substance in mj that's causing the appearance of dark circles then that's actually pretty interesting (to me). 
     
    i'm still leaning towards the opinion that it's most likely due to lifestyle change(s), which are associated with smoking. 
     
    to say that it's common in people who smoke weed is the same is saying that it's common in general population (which is true in both cases).
     
  7.  
    Yup it's like my dad always tells me after smoking, "your eyes look like two eagle's arseholes in a power dive" :laughing:
     
  8. its true

    Perhaps there are more than one factor

    Weed + x = dark circles

    Honestly.idk at all, all.I do know is that it is common for people to get dark circles aafter smoking

    -yuri
     
  9. #9 y u zi zi, Oct 30, 2014
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  10. does watching tv or staring at computer/phones have an impact?
     
  11. Its mainly genetic.
     
  12. Looking at a screen all day is bad for your eyes, but to cause dark circles idk. You'd have to really be up in that screen all day or something. I've had em all my life pretty much. Not due to smoking, I think it's genetic. I get plenty of sleep and eat okay and some excercise every now and then, I'm usually in the sun walking about every day of the week. Nothing works for me so far.
    You could try using creams or other methods that worked for others. Some people do cold spoons. If you have bags when you are sober I highly doubt ganja is the problem.
    Stress can cause dark circles I believe, if there are any ridges in your hygene or diet/health fix them.
    It could be allergies or your environment.
     
  13. Its common for anyone who smokes to get circles under their eyes and wrinkles. Oxygen depravation cuts off oxygen where first? Your brain lol

    Your face is in that general area :smoke:

    Got a few people in my family looked 80 at 50 from alcohol and smoking. Dont matter what you smoke either. Body wasnt designed for that.
     
  14. ive always had a darker shade in that area of my face and the puffiness really ramps up the more puffing i do haha. for me, genes play a factor as well.
     
  15. If they are dark and puffy as well it could range from allergies to poor circulation. 
     
    Try icing you checks and see if that helps at all. If not it may just be hereditary.
     
    Also. Don't blow any smoke out of your nose. That will make it worse. Will be busting all kind of capillaries. 
     
  16. I have pretty bad allergies and they get worse when I smoke. And I get dark.circles

    Wouldn't surprise me if they are relates

    Poor circulation? Idk. I went to the doctor blazed.as fuck and she said my blood.pressure was "good" and when I asked what that means she said "within the ideal range"

    -yuri
     
  17. #17 hibodharma, Nov 2, 2014
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    Some things that I have tried that help dark circles:
     
    1) put two cucumber slices on your eyes and leave them there for 15 minutes or more, they will leech out the toxins (that's why they do this at spas)
     
    2) no screens two hours before bed, and turn down brightness/contrast on monitor, phone, etc. so it bothers your eyes less
     
    3) go to bed & get up at the same time, get enough quality sleep
     
    4) stay hydrated & drink water throughout the day
     
    5) sleep on your back and not on your stomach or face in buried into the pillow
     
    6) cold or lukewarm showers really help circulation, they also help acne heal better, faster
     
  18. I'm gonnna try some.of those thanks

    -yuri
     
  19. I forgot one, put vitamin E on your face and under your eyes, it's really good for your skin. I cut my face up bad once in a biking accident and vitamin E really sped up the healing
     
  20. #20 Twee, Nov 3, 2014
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    There are 3 main causes of dark circles, which can either be the sole cause or a mix of them. I'm a bit of a skincare junkie, so bare with me.
     
    1. Hyperpigmentation
     
    This is darkening of the skin under your eye. If this is the cause, something topically applied to lighten the skin (usually a melanin inhibitor plus something to speed up exfoliation/disperse melanin) is a solid bet. Kojic berry acid, for example, is a potentially helpful melanin inhibitor, though research is limited.
    Things that definitely are known to reduce hyperpigmentation are AHA products --be very careful with this, vitamin C, retinoids, and even another RX topical that I'm not mentioning due to to the harshness/side effects.
     
    2. Visible capillaries due to very thin skin
     
    The skin under the eye is thin and delicate. Due to this, people can sometimes get visible capillaries/little blood vesels, which from a decent distance look like circles.
    You can either go to your derm or local med spa and get these zapped with a laser or, you can try to thicken the skin in the area to help make the caps less visible.
    Retinoids/(possibly)Vitamin C can also help to thicken the skin over time as well.
     
    3. Tear Trough/Suborbital Volume Deficiency
     
    This is literally due to the structure below your eye. Nothing topically applied will cure this, though with proper placement of a brightening concealer, the appearance could be reduced. The only thing that does "fix" this are fillers---either by your derm/NP/PA.
    For the tear trough, the area around your nose and orbital bone is hollowed, therefore casting a shadow, which gives the look of dark circles or contributes to your circles.
    For suborbital volume deficiency, there is a larger area under the eye which lacks volume. 
     
    Vitamin K cream disclaimer
     
    Some people claim that eye creams with vitamin K work ( with spider veins/ visible caps) by penetrating skin and clotting the vessels/capillaries, which in turn essentially kills them.
    Consistent evidence is lacking on the efficacy of this, though I have read a couple studies that it may be helpful in post surgical bruising. Again, more evidence is needed.
    Though, say it was effective...There's nothing to stop it from penetrating healthy capillaries/vessels and knocking those off too. It's not selectively choosing what to "kill". Personal Opinion Warning: I wouldn't want to tamper with it to find out..
     
    ** Products**
     
    I mention Vitamin C serums and Retinoids quite a bit in this post. OTC retinoids I trust are by the brand Avene--available in many parts of Europe and the US. Avene's eye gels/creams are the only true eye cream I will endorse on here until another cost efficient, eye specific ( meaning lower concentration of retinoid), well formulated retinoid product pops up into existence---If you guys know of one, please post. Vitamin C serums that are good include those by: Nufountain, Silk Naturals, & pretty much if you can find one with a good pH and well packaged, it would do the trick.
     
    edit:
    here are various environmental factors than can contribute to dark circles/puffiness such as dehydration ( so stay properly hydrated, a good indication is if your urine is clear), lack of sleep ( so make sure you're getting enough sleep, however many hours is good for you, no one size fits all for sleep), stress/emotional problems, and allergies.

     

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