How To Avoid Being Busted/Searched On A Traffic Stop

Secret Jardin · Oct 19, 2014

Highnez57 said:

Your "team" seems to only have one name attached to it.

http://www.fraudstoppers.org/transportation-stop-action-script/

This information is provided by Eddie Craig (former deputy sheriff, and due process expert)

With a hell of a disclaimer.

Disclaimer: The materials available on this website are for informational purposes only and not for the purpose of providing legal advice. You should contact your attorney to obtain advice with respect to any particular issue or problem. The opinions expressed at or through this site are the opinions of the authors. Use of this website or providing information to the email address provided does not constitute legal advice and does not create an attorney-client relationship. Please be advised that this is exclusively a Pro Se support system in which you are expected to represent yourself. All sales are final
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No, that is a non affiliated website that decided to host some of Craig's material, they didnt create it. That disclaimer is on fraud stoppers website (very tiny print at the bottom of any and every page), and not attached to the traffic stop script. that sort of disclaimer is standard on websites of all sort, so a site has a common legal disclaimer like 99% of other websites and that means what exactly? Your doctor makes u sign a legal waiver saying u wont sue the hospital if somthing they did dosnt work out for u,the medication you take has a disclaimer from manufacturers . Im not forcing anyone to follow this info, do whatever u want when the pigs come at you. It's not me whos gonna get screwd in the end by the legal system for not knowing the proper procedure laws

Highnez57 · Oct 19, 2014

Secret Jardin said:

No, that is a non affiliated website that decided to host some of Craig's material, they didnt create it. That disclaimer is on fraud stoppers website, and that sort of disclaimer is standard on websites of all sort, so a site has a common legal disclaimer like 99% of websites and that means what exactly? Your doctor makes u sign a legal waiver saying u wont sue the hospital if somthing they did dosnt work out for u. Im not forcing anyone to follow this info, do whatever u want when the pigs come at you. It's not me whos gonna get screwd for not knowing the proper procedure
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Your right, they hosted Craigs' opinion, not legal advice.

Secret Jardin · Oct 19, 2014

Highnez57 said:

Your right, they hosted Craigs' opinion, not legal advice.
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Lol so your mis-quoting me now,?
It is legal advice, u really think this ex police officer didn't make sure the information was legally sound and legit before putting his name on it and face on it? Email the scripts to your lawyer and post his reply? If you dont like the advice or dont agree then say so, lets discuss pro's and cons, maybe improve on it or exclude some things, no need to try and discredit the authors with misdirection and insinuation

smokymtn · Oct 20, 2014

This should not decend into some some sort of I'm right and you are wrong thing. It's an adult discussion on how to avoid legal inconvenience with something we all have in common.

It is ridiculous to insult or demean people and think you are making a stand or confronting an adversary when all you are doing is arguing with an electronic device in front of your face. That is the same as fighting with a piece of furniture in your house.

People that use profanity and insults to express themselves forcefully, do so because they lack the vocabulary to voice their opinion intelligently.

Smokey Tha Bear · Oct 20, 2014

Secret Jardin said:

This info you give is inaccurate, vague and will get someone arrested!! Here is the proper way to protect yourself during police encounters:

NEVER FORGET!! ALWAYS carry one or more audio/video recording devices with you into the public world. NEVER go out without them.
Try to make sure that they are always charged or have good batteries as necessary. The moment you suspect that you are going to have an encounter with some public servant/official, then, TURN THEM ON AND START RECORDING!
Having a pen and notepad of some kind readily available for taking notes is also recommended. Write down any names and badge numbers you receive and use them accordingly. It is also recommended that if you have a cell phone in addition to other recording devices, then, you ALSO call someone that can act as an audible witness to what is said during the encounter and possibly also record the conversation from their end as well. No matter what the officer says, DO NOT hang up the phone. If necessary, LIE about who you have on the phone!! Tell the officer that it is your legal counsel on the line and you will not comply with any of his/her demands without proper legal advice from your counsel.
There is no law against being on the phone during such an encounter, nor is there any legal basis for an officer to threaten you or demand that you disconnect your call during the encounter. The idiotic claim that such a demand is related to â€œofficer safetyâ€ is not a plausible basis for such demand.
What you say and do during a â€œtransportationâ€ stop can mean the difference between simply getting a citation (or not) and being released to continue on your way, or, being hauled off (illegally) to jail. These questions and actions are specifically designed to protect both your physical being and your fundamentally protected rights. If you fail to follow these recommended procedures then you should not be surprised when things do not go the way you want them to. Ignore these procedures at your own peril.
YOU MUST CONTROL THE INFORMATION EXCHANGE AND YOUR OWN EMOTIONAL STATE. DO NOT BECOME FLUSTERED, FRUSTRATED, AFRAID, OR ANGRY.
Maintain your composure and speak in a calm and collected voice and manner at all times. Treat the officer with respect. You want the video evidence to show that if anyone lost self-control during the encounter it was the officer(s) and not you. It is also important that you ask anyone else that may be with you to remain silent and to say and do nothing except as described herein. If they are unfamiliar with these concepts and procedures then it would be a good idea for you to either educate them on these concepts and procedures or simply don't have them with you. Someone else can get you into just as many problems as you can yourself if they say or do things other than as described herein.
While I am aware that there is the ability to say less just as effectively, I believe that we should be working toward ending these abuses and behavior by our public servants by making a record that would allow us to take action against those of them that refuse to honor and obey our rights, their oath of office, and the limits of their power and authority. This script is intended to assist you in making a viable record that can be used in a lawsuit against these public servants in state and federal court. If you can get THEM talking about the violations they are perpetrating and their knowing and willful intent to commit those violations, then, a jury is much more likely to find in your favor when the officer(s) stand condemned from their own mouths and recordings.
Dos and Don'ts:
Do remember that an officer is REQUIRED to read you your rights before questioning or searching you if they have placed you in a custodial arrest. You ARE ALWAYS in a custodial arrest when stopped for an alleged â€œtraffic offenseâ€ (see Secs. 543.001-.009, Transp. Code). The reading of your rights is a mandatory requirement that works in your favor unless/until you behave stupidly by talking voluntarily (sees Art. 38.22, Code of Crim. Proc.). Be aware, however, they almost NEVER do this, meaning that anything incriminating that you may say or that they may find can be suppressed as an involuntary or coerced statement or illegal warrantless search and seizure. You should also be aware that the officer(s) is/are trained to lie about you being in a custodial arrest and will most likely say instead that you are in an â€œinvestigative detention.â€ understand that this is a TOTAL LIE! You almost always ARE in a full-blown custodial arrest!
Don't EVER answer an officer's questions. You have the right to remain â€œsilent,â€ so USE IT!
However, being â€œsilentâ€ DOES NOT mean to suddenly become a DEAF MUTE! It simply means that you are NOT to provide ANY information or documents in response to the officer's demands or questions.
Invoke your fundamentally protected right to remain â€œsilentâ€ and to assistance of counsel, and then simply refuse to waive them, which you will do if you comply with the officer's demands.
The foremost thing to remember in these situations is to NOT engage the officer(s) in idle conversation, dialog, or chitchat. It is important that the ONLY things you say to the officer(s) are specifically directed at the reservation and protection of your fundamentally protected rights, and nothing else. This is known as my self-imposed rule of â€œinvoke, demand, protect.â€ Once you have invoked these rights NEVER waive or abandon them by ignoring these recommended procedures.
Questions like â€œWhere are you coming from?â€, â€œWhere are you going?â€, â€œWho are you meeting?â€ have NOTHING to do with a â€œtransportation stop.â€ They are used simply to get additional information that may allow the officer to continue his witch hunt and escalate the severity of the charge(s) he might make against you. Also, NEVER answer questions like â€œDo you know why I pulled you over?â€ or â€œAre you aware that you?â€
STOP HELPING HIM SCREW YOU OVER! DON'T ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS! Remember the cardinal rule about talking freely, SHUT UP, KEEP SHUTTING UP, and when you have done that, SHUT UP SOME MORE!
WHATEVER YOU SAY CAN AND WILL BE USED AGAINST YOU IN A COURT OF LAW, SO SHUT UP UNLESS YOU ARE DOING OR SAYING SOMETHING SPECIFIED IN THIS SCRIPT!
Do remember to roll up ALL of your windows and to lock your doors whenever you get pulled over, and don't ever open them or get out. That being said, MY personal habit, on warm and sunny days, has always been to carefully but quickly exit the car (keeping my hands in plain view) BEFORE the officer can prevent me from doing so, while simultaneously locking my doors, throwing the keys into the front seat, and closing the door. Doing this removes the possibility of you having access to any form of weapon that may be inside the car and could be used to injure the officer(s). In this way the officer no longer has the legal ability or excuse to conduct a warrantless search of your car, even if they tow it. Remember to keep a spare door key in your wallet, pocket, or purse if you do this. However, if it is freezing cold and/or pouring down rain, remain in your car and let the officer stand outside for as long as he likes in order to conduct his unlawful and illegal witch hunt while you take your time in following this script.
Don't EVER roll down more than one (1) window at a time if you remain in your car during the stop, no matter what the officer(s) tell you to do. This eliminates the possibility of an officer fabricating an opportunity to escalate the stop by saying that the resulting cross-breeze allowed him/her to smell something. If you must open a different window then is certain that you have closed all other windows before doing so.
Don't EVER roll down your one open window more than two and a-half (2.5) inches, no matter what the officer(s) tell you to do, and for the same reasons as stated above. Just say â€œI can hear you fine officer and I am most comfortable with the window at its current level, thank you.â€
Don't EVER provide an officer with any documents or other information that they demand. The legal ramifications to your fundamentally protected rights are devastating.
Don't EVER give your consent to an officer to search your car for any reason. You are just asking to have incriminating evidence planted or discovered that could be used to criminally charge you, and it won't matter if you knew it was there or not, YOU CONSENTED TO THE WARRANLTESS SEARCH!!
DON'T BE AN IDIOT! Don't let them threaten or coerce you into waiving this right because it also attaches to the waiver of other important fundamental rights that are essential to your legal wellbeing.
Even if they threaten to have a canine unit report to the scene you must not waive this right. Tell the officer â€œI do not consent to being detained by you for any additional time or other purposes. Am I free to go or are you going to continue to illegally falsely imprison me beyond the time needed to conclude this stop?â€
JUST SAY NO TO WARRANTLESS SEARCHES!
Officers will almost always insist that you are NOT under custodial arrest, but rather are simply being â€œdetainedâ€ or are part of an â€œinvestigative detention.â€ This is a blatant lie most of the time. No officer has the authority to simply walk up and demand that you answer questions, produce ID, or provide them with your private information, verbally or otherwise. Be aware, however, that when you won't submit and give them your information, their favorite tactic is to threaten to charge you with â€œFailure to Identify.â€ However, by the law (Sec. 38.02, Penal Code) you can be charged with â€œFailure to Identifyâ€
ONLY if you have ALREADY been lawfully arrested for some other offense, or, you are being lawfully detained for questioning in a criminal investigation, and then ONLY under the following conditions and circumstances; in either case you are required to give ONLY your name, address, and DOB, nothing more; in the case of already being lawfully arrested for some other offense, you cannot refuse to provide these three things; in the case of being lawfully detained, you cannot provide false responses for these three things, but you CAN refuse to provide them at all. You can provide this information verbally. There is no law that requires that it be presented on some form of physical ID or document, nor could there be (anywhere USA) because there is not and cannot be a valid law that requires and compels a private individual to obtain and carry a state or federally issued form of ID.

WARNING! IT IS OF THE UTMOST IMPORTANCE THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THE TRUE NATURE AND PURPOSE OF A â€œTRANSPORTATIONâ€ STOP. THE GOAL OF EVERY ENFORCEMENT OFFICER NATIONWIDE IS TO CREATE A SITUATION THAT CULMINATES IN ONE OF TWO SCENARIOS:

1) A DUI bust
-Or-
2) A drug bust.

DALE CARSON (A FORMER MIAMI POLICE OFFICER, FORMER FBI AGENT, AND CURRENT LAWYER) VALIDATES THIS CLAIM IN HIS BOOK â€œARREST-PROOF YOURSELF: AN EX-COP REVEALS HOW EASY IT IS FOR ANYONE TO GET ARRESTED.â€

This is ALWAYS the goal. It is NEVER about â€œpublic safety.â€
It is always about maximizing the potential charges against an individual and the revenue that a conviction on those charges generates. STOP HELPING â€œTHEMâ€ SET YOU UP FOR A FALL!
Also, DO NOT attempt to â€œeducateâ€ the officer(s) about what they can and cannot do or the law associated with â€œtransportationâ€ or the Code of Criminal Procedure. Register your verbal objection to their actions for the record by following the procedures below. Napoleon had it right when he said â€œNever interrupt your enemy while he is busy making mistakes.â€ Learn from this wisdom or you WILL make your own â€œfatal mistakes.â€
Once you know the officer(s) name(s) and badge number(s) use them both together as often as practicable as shown in these procedures. Make him/them aware that they are being directly associated with any unlawful and illegal acts or violations of your fundamentally protected rights in which they might otherwise engage during this encounter. While it is not fatal to the situation if you fail to do so, it is relatively important that you try to do things in the order and verbiage presented below.
REMINDER: It is important that the only things you say to the officer(s) are specifically directed at the reservation and protection of your fundamentally protected rights and nothing else. Once you have invoked your rights NEVER waive or abandon them by ignoring the recommended procedures listed above and below.
Simply repeat the verbiage in items 1 & 2 as necessary for each new officer you speak with.
NOTE: Sub-items 2(a)-(c) are optional, but are also potentially useful during the discovery process if the claim is made later that the officer's equipment was â€œmalfunctioningâ€ during the encounter. Bear in mind that these questions and statements by you are VERY important to the record you are trying to build, try to remember this and use them accordingly.
1) For the record, may I get your name and badge number please?
2) Officer _____________ Badge/ID # ________, is there a recording being made of this encounter?
a. Is that recording comprised of both audio and video?
b. Are you relatively certain that your recording equipment is functioning properly for the purposes
of making this recording?
c. Is your body microphone and camera, if any, turned on and functioning properly to the best of
your knowledge?
3) Officer _____________ Badge/ID # ________, what is the emergency and how can I help?
4) Officer _____________ Badge/ID # ________, what facts or information are you alleging gave you
probable cause to stop and accost me?
5) Officer _____________ Badge/ID # ________, do you have a properly signed and issued warrant
authorizing you to search me or my property?
a. (IF YES) Officer _____________ Badge/ID # ________, do you currently have that alleged
warrant in your possession, if so I would like to see it please?
6) Officer _____________ Badge/ID # ________, do you have a properly signed and issued warrant of
arrest that accurately describes or names me as the person to be arrested?
a. (IF YES) Officer _____________ Badge/ID # ________, do you currently have that alleged
warrant in your possession, if so I would like to see it please?
7) For the record, I am not â€œoperatingâ€ in a â€œfor hireâ€ capacity by engaging in any form of â€œtransportationâ€
or other commercial use of the highways. Officer _____________ Badge/ID # ________, please
acknowledge that you have been so informed.
8) Officer _____________ Badge/ID # ________, am I under custodial arrest?
9) If I am not under custodial arrest then am I free to go?
10) Officer _____________ Badge/ID # ________, what is the articulable probable cause that leads you
to believe that I have committed or am about to commit a crime that authorizes you to stop and
detain or arrest me?
11) For the record Officer _____________ Badge/ID # ________, in order to protect my rights and not
waive any by error or accident, I wish to clarify my legal understanding of the situation:
a. You said that I am not free to go, so I must conclude that I am in a custodial arrest and not simply
an investigative detention.
b. Therefore, I am invoking all of my fundamentally protected rights, including my right to remain
silent and my right to assistance of counsel.
c. From this point forward I do not consent to providing you with any information or documents that
could or will be used against me in a court of law or to possibly incriminate me, so please do not
ask me to produce anything and give it to you.
d. From this point forward please do not ask me to answer any questions or to perform any form of
test relating to any matter whatsoever without my attorney present.
e. Officer _____________ Badge/ID # ________, do you intend to harm, injure, or punish me by
any method of assault, arrest and/or incarceration because I have invoked these fundamentally
protected rights?
Understand this, when you refuse to produce the demanded documents or to answer any questions, the
officer is going to begin to get upset and continuously state that â€œâ€¦ the law REQUIRES that you produce a
driver's license and other information on demand of a law enforcement officer.â€ They are also prone to
falsely accusing you of obstructing or interfering with a public duty/officer or just outright threatening to
commit acts of violence against you and/or your property. DON'T FALL FOR THIS, IT IS A SCARE
TACTIC! Invoking and refusing to waive your fundamental rights is not and cannot be converted into a crime.
And if they DO arrest and charge you falsely for interfering/obstructing then you get to sue the crap out of
them. Just remember, when the officer(s) continue to demand that you produce a license, registration, proof
of financial responsibility, or any other information or document(s), despite their threats, repeat the following
ad nauseum:
12) For the record Officer _____________ Badge/ID # ________, no law is valid if it requires me in any
way to waive any fundamentally protected right in order to exercise any other right or alleged
privilege. And no law can convert the free exercise of any right into a crime. I have repeatedly
informed you that I choose not to waive any of my fundamentally protected rights.
13) So, I ask you again Officer _____________ Badge/ID # ________, do you intend to harm, injure,
steal my property, or otherwise punish me for invoking my fundamentally protected rights?

WARNING: BE PREPARED FOR THE OFFICER TO DO OR THREATEN PRECISELY THAT, AND THEY USUALLY START
BY THREATENING YOU WITH ALL MANNER OF UNPLEASANTRIES, INCLUDING FALSIFIED CRIMINAL CHARGES. YOU ONLY
NEED TO USE SUB-ITEM â€œAâ€ ONCE ON THE FIRST OFFICER THAT THREATENS YOU. WHEN S/HE/THEY BEGIN(S) TO DO SO,
STATE THE FOLLOWING:

a. Officer _____________ Badge/ID # ________, due to your attitude, demeanor, and your
continuous threats to falsify charges and commit acts of violence against me and my property
while displaying a deadly weapon, I feel physically threatened and in fear for my life. I demand
that you cease and desist and request the immediate presence of a supervisor. I do not consent to
any of your actions, the use of force against me or my property, or to being forced to exit my car
for any purpose, especially so that you may attempt to steal my property and/or assault, injure or
kill me.
14) Officer _____________ Badge/ID # ________, you are fully aware that I have already invoked my
fundamentally protected right to remain silent and my right to assistance of counsel. Do you intend to
continue in your unlawful efforts to violate my rights?
a. It is my belief that the information you are demanding may possibly be used against me in a court
of law or in an attempt to incriminate me.
b. And if that is so, then, upon the advice of legal counsel I must respectfully decline to provide you
with any information or evidence that possibly can or would be used against me for those
purposes.
15) Officer _____________ Badge/ID # ________, I am asking you again, do you intend to continue to
deny me in my rights and to falsely imprison me or am I free to go?
WARNING: Be certain to keep your face as far away from the window opening as possible while sitting
normally. Never exhale or speak directly into the opening or toward the officer(s) face(s). Doing
so will almost certainly result in the following scenario. Read the Do's and Don'ts to better
understand why.
If the officer makes any statement making a direct accusation against you or directed toward escalating the
stop to the status of a DUI or drug bust situation, and they almost certainly will, you MUST be prepared to
rebut it INSTANTLY. If any officer makes ANY statement resembling either of the following, BEWARE and
immediately respond accordingly!!
OFFICER: â€œSir/Ma'am, I smell alcohol/marijuana and I am going to have to ask you to step out of the
vehicle.â€; or
â€œSir/Ma'am, are you aware that you ( allegedly did something ) and I am going to have to ask
you to step out of the vehicle.â€ (Be sure that s/he IS lying in this case.)
16) YOU: Officer _____________ Badge/ID # ________, your statement is patently false and
an outright lie. Are you now trying to fabricate probable cause by making false statements into
the record and false allegations against me?
a. Even if they threaten to have a canine unit report to the scene or to break out your windows you
must not waive your fundamentally protected rights out of fear. Tell the officer â€œI do not consent
to being detained for any additional time or other purposes. Am I free to go or are you going to
continue to illegally terrorize, threaten and falsely imprison me beyond the time needed to
conclude this alleged â€œtransportation stop?â€
b. Repeat steps 12 â€“ 16a as required for each new or continued demand or threat imposed by the officer(s).
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you have to be fucking kidding me. how high were you when you wrote this novel

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Secret Jardin · Oct 20, 2014

Smokey Tha Bear said:

you have to be fucking kidding me. how high were you when you wrote this novel

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What is your procedure for dealing with police encounters?

Highnez57 · Oct 20, 2014

Smokey Tha Bear said:

you have to be fucking kidding me. how high were you when you wrote this novel

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He didn't, it's a copy and paste from some guys pdf download, only to be used if you plan on representing yourself at a trial.

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