CDC itself says that Ebola can be spread via sneezing and coughing. Ebola does live outside the body for many hours and it takes about 5 particles of it to infect you. That is dramatically less then what Flu requires. TB, Heart Disease etc etc are all managble long term issues. Most of those deaths happen is the less modern countries. Like Dysentery is a leading cause of death world wide. You literally shit yourself to death and become insanely dehydrated. That is easily easily solvable...stop drinking out of the god dam river you shit in. Belive it or not tens of millions do that. Go to India where 5 million people in one city do not own a toilet. There trying to educate them but its slow going. Right now the WHO has already stated that 10,000 new Ebola cases will pop up in Africa, and a doubling every 3 weeks seems to be the trend. Do some simple math on that one. The CDC is inept and to treat one patient has been a lesson in what NOT to do. Can't imagine the response if 100 people pop up with it. The great thing about it is about 21 days to incubate, 10 days or so to explosively melt..so we all will know real soon how many in the US have it.
Did you know there is some real nasty viruses still in the ground we walk on everyday. Shit that we thought was well gone. It's just you're luck IMO Some old guy in my town was doing some gardening and pricked his finger on a rose bush, 24 hours later he's dead, hospital couldn't do a thing to save him. When they tested anthrax weapons during the wars.where do you think all those spores went after they were airborne. Settled in the ground. We are building more and once dormant ground. Is being disturbed. Fuck I'm sounding like one of the tin foil brigade lol
Anthrax comes from spores in the dirt. Alot of farmers, most vets get anthrax vaccinations since they encounter it.
Sneezing and coughing spreads bodily fluids. Especially if you are suffering from a hemorrhagic fever. That is very different then a virus being airborne. The flu is airborne, that affects hundreds of millions of people every year. Compared to 10,000 cases of Ebola? I have done the math.
The reality is viruses work like this, they get into the body to infect healthy cells, and how a virus becomes infectious is when those healthy cells become hosts for the virus(the virus has infected them). So the more cells a virus has infected the more infectious someone is. So what I am saying here is, all this bullshit about gestation is just that. If there is a possibility of exposure you need to go into 30 day quarantine because there is no way to tell when an infected person is infectious until they show ebola symptoms. The nurse had a fever of 99.5F but since it is not high enough for an indication of ebola she was allowed to fly. It is so dumb, if her immune system was responding to the virus she is infectious.
Yes its different but in regards of your 10,000 cases the WHO organization has estimated another 10,000 will have it by next weeks end with a doubling every 3 weeks. Do the math. You reach a point of exponential spread. The US Military has is setting up 17 hospitals that can only treat 100 people each. So 1700 people. The normal protocol for Ebola is to basically treat you in the best conditions, IV with fluids to keep you as healthy as possible with hopes your body fights this. The key is to quarantine till you die then burn the body. So you said you did the math..how does that work where you can only treat 1700 people. So since your oviously a Westerner like myself. You might think they have hospital infrastructure. Were talking about Border Town Mexico conditions here. Liberia for instance only has about 300 doctors for millions and about half of those are not even coming to work. Once again do the math. This is a emerging disease as well. Where as Flu has been around is no where near the mortality rate and easily treated. Flu vaccines are widely used and pretty easy to generate one for a specific kind of flu once it emerges. We had Swine Flu and Avian Flu vaccines within months that were widely distributed when that threat emerged. On top of all that you have a extremely primitive society over there. The next big thing that region is now facing is extreme famine. Already making the news that people are trying to flee the area...happens on foot there and the farms are all untended. So you can keep saying its only 10,000 but if you do the math you approach the million mark by Jan that has it. All it takes is some to come to the US and you have a utter disaster to it. The only good thing about all of this since Obama has once again screwed things up his approval ratings continue to sink.
Maybe this helps, i felt better after reading it :/ ... http://elitedaily.com/news/world/why-you-shouldnt-buy-into-the-ebola-hype/784344/
Actually in absolute terms the flu is much more deadly than Ebola. Ebola has a high mortality rate but it's in fact not very contagious, it can't live outside of a host and is not transferred via the air. I live in Canada and there's a very low chance we will see very many cases here, our population density is very low and our sanitation and our healthcare system here is very good compared to West Africa. The US is a little more at risk than Canada but still it's not nearly as vulnerable a place as West Africa. TLDR: people are getting worked up over not much.
We already had one ebola patient here and so far the only people he spread it to were two nurses that were working directly with him and his infected bodily fluids. There are ~50 people being monitored who had casual contact with the victim while he was showing symptoms, sounds like most of them pass the 21-day monitoring period today and none of them have shown any signs of having ebola. If it were as dangerous as you make it sound, seems like we'd have a lot more cases right now.
Well all you have to do is wait. Flights are still happening when over 30 African nations have banned travel to and from there. The head of all of this is a attorney now, 10,000 more infected patients are expected this coming week, and the UN has told the world we have 60 days to get a handle of this with 70% of the infected quarantined, and 70% of the bodies burned. That goal will be impossible as for instance in Liberia they have about 300 doctors for a population of millions and half of them are no where to be found...there smart. US Military is setting up 17 hospitals that can treat 100 patients. This weeks infected rate outstrips all resources in the region. Were in the the calm before the storm. The best on this is yet to come.
Yeah flights are still happening, shit is still spreading in Africa, but wasn't the Duncan case a pretty good indicator of what we can expect here when someone infected with ebola comes to the US?
Sure you can expect a complete diaster. One patient required 70 doctors and nurses to treat around the clock. He went unmonitored for some time. His house was not secured and his family was put on the "honor" system to stay inside. Duncan's bloody sheets, clothes, the bags of shit and piss they pilled pilled so high in his room it was near the ceiling were not even treated correctly. The hospital had no protocol for disposal of that. They tried to ship it to Louisiana. Duncans house required disinfection but no one did that for a week then getting people to actually do it became a issue. The Customs check CDC keeps saying to people arriving is simply a piece of paper that you fill out. Who would say there positive and be barred entry? Thats like asking a illegal to "self deport" himself. Sure they will raise there hands and ask to be sent back to shitty Mexico. The only way ONLY way to check for this is a DNA test. Every other symptom mirrors other stuff like the Flu or Cold. DNA tests take days so its not realistic that they will hold people at a Airport...there not set up for that anyhow. Oh heres the best thing..the CDC's training for hospitals across America on this is...Internet based trainers aka watch a video and conference calls! Yipppie. So yes you can expect more Duncans and a total failure of anyone to do anything proper then have the CDC goon blame the Nurses and Doctors.
If the infection rate stays as low as it has in the Duncan case, how would it be a complete disaster? We haven't seen any indication of infection in any of the dozens of people Duncan had casual contact with while showing symptoms. One patient required 70 doctors and nurses, but only two have caught it so far, right? 0 people that had casual contact with him and 2 out of the 70+ people that were most at risk? That seems like a pretty decent number to me. There are absolutely things we can do to be even safer, but if the US were in for a complete disaster, I would think we'd have seen a lot more infected already.
Well thats the great thing...its exponentially increasing and Duncan showed us how retarded they all are. So its a matter of time. Way back last decade when they thought Swine Flu was going to be big. They traced back to Patient Zero. Was a Mexican girl missionaries cared for. All those missionaries left and got on a plane to San Diego. Those people interacted and went there separate ways. Within about 2 months from that initial flight it was literally on ever continent. Now that is Flu which is highly contagious but it shows you how easily something is spread. As for those 70...they could not even quarantine his family properly so you honestly believe that a government as enpt as ours is taking care of that? Anyhow we will see!
Exponentially increasing in countries with poor health care, misguided beliefs, and funeral rituals that directly contribute to spreading the disease... I don't see any reason to believe future infected people coming to the US would turn out any worse than the Duncan case. Hopefully we learn from our mistakes, but if anything I don't see how we'd become less safe about it. Do you really believe we will take even less safety precautions than in the Duncan case in the future?
Do you honestly believe the recently appointed "Ebola Czar" and here is his link is up to the task? He is a political lawyer who was Chief of Staff for Gore and Biden. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Klain In a nation that has some of the very best doctors and military doctors of all the people to put in charge of this? Look up USARIID (US Army Research Institute of Infectious Disease). There as world renowned and on par with CDC. One of there people should would of been 100x more capable of handling our response then this idiot. Whats funny is people hate the government, they know there complete idiots who dick everything up...yet we have this undying faith that somehow these idiots will save us in our time of need. Thing is they never do.
I have no idea if he's up to the task. I'm not trying to have some kind of undying faith in the government either. I'm just basing my opinion off of what we've already seen. We've already seen one case of ebola coming to the US, I would think future cases will either have similar or better results.