FCC plans to regulate and tax Internet 16%

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  1. #1 BRZBoy, Oct 13, 2014
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    With all that is going on in the world this has been in and out of the news. Very alarming stuff indeed.
     
    The FCC's proposal to classify the internet as "Interstate Telecommunications Services"  allows it to collect a 16.1% tax increase. If it succeeds it would be one of the largest all time tax increases. To pay for that you can rest assured that will be passed along to you just like the long list of taxes you pay on your cell phone service.
     
    Its pretty insidious as well because the very Act they supported "Internet Tax Freedom Act" blocks state and local taxation of the internet which if they ever did happen would be by far less then a 16% tax the Feds will impose.
     
    If your asking why..well the FCC wishes to redistribute your money to pay for free Wifi and a list of low income internet programs. Enjoy your internet bill going up libs you guys voted this goon in twice. I also seriously doubt if you make one penny in income that you will benefit from any of this. Generally how it is. Reward the lowest possible denominator in life. Hugs and Kisses! Cheers!
     
    FCC Plans Stealth Internet Tax Increase
     
    American politicians of all stripes clearly see and oppose the abuses of the Internet abroad. But our government officials are not aware that the Federal Communications Commission, without statutory authority, is proposing to expand its taxation and regulation of the Internet.
     
    The relationship between the Internet and government has become a useful barometer of personal and economic freedom. Oppressive governments use the Internet to oppress political enemies, censor ideas, and spy on citizens.  The United Nations and other international organizations see the Internet as an untapped opportunity for tax revenues and regulations to support political favorites.
    Of course Congress can and does pass symbolic laws to protect the Internet, such as the recent extension of the Internet Tax Freedom Act that prohibits new state and local taxes on broadband access. Congress is eager to block state and local tax collection on the Internet on the reasonable theory that taxes will harm the Internet, one of the few engines of growth in our otherwise recession-prone economy.
     
    Yet Congress is oblivious to Federal Communications Commission efforts to undermine the spirit if not the letter of ITFA by extending substantial new federal fees on broadband access. These fees could be as harmful, if not more so, than any that state and local governments might imagine. Yet many in Congress, unaware of the fees that might be applied to the Internet, applaud the FCC.
    Under its “Open Internet” or “network neutrality” proceeding, the FCC would regulate the  Internet and broadband service providers with rules similar to those that courts have not once but twice ruled unlawful.   By statute, the FCC regulates telecommunications services, not Internet services.  Rather than wait for Congress to give it authority to regulate Internet services, the FCC asserts that power for itself by some imaginative interpretation of the Communications Act.
    One set of proposals considered by the FCC would classify Internet services, or at least Internet access services, as “interstate telecommunications services” bringing the regulation of those services exclusively to the FCC.
     
    The FCC imposes fees of 16.1% on interstate telecommunications services that will generate more than $8 billion in federal universal service funds in 2014. Additional FCC fees on interstate telecommunications services raise $1 billion for federal telecommunications relay services.  Although Congress mandates the general nature of the federal universal service fund and telecommunications relay services, it is the FCC alone that sets the budget size of the funds and develops the fee structure to raise receipts for the funds.
     
    Even with all of its power, the FCC does not have the money to fund all of the new programs it seeks.   For example, just in the past year, the FCC announced an ambitious multi-billion program to connect schools and libraries with Wi-Fi.  Other advocates seek expansion of the low-income program.  But where can the FCC find funds for new social programs not required by statute?
     
    The FCC's network neutrality proceeding may easily provide the answer. By classifying broadband access services as “interstate telecommunications services,” those services would suddenly become required to pay FCC fees.  At the current 16.1% fee structure, it would be perhaps the largest, one-time tax increase on the Internet.  The FCC would have many billions of dollars of expanded revenue base to fund new programs without, according to the FCC, any need for congressional authorization.
     
    If the FCC succeeds in classifying some or all of broadband services as interstate telecommunications services, it would effectively exclude its bureaucratic rivals in both the states and federal government from competing to regulate and to tax the Internet.  State and local governments do not have the authority to tax or regulate interstate telecommunications services. Moreover, the Federal Trade Commission, which increasingly seeks to regulate the Internet, has no jurisdiction over common carriers or “telecommunications services.”
     
    To make their proposals palatable, network neutrality advocates suggest that the FCC might in its discretion “forbear” from various regulations.  But FCC forbearance takes years with uncertain outcomes. And the FCC likely does not have the discretion to find that some interstate telecommunications services pay fees and others do not. Inevitably, network neutrality with “telecommunications services” will lead to new fees and regulations that will harm the Internet.
    It is easy to see government abuses of the Internet abroad. It is time we took a closer look at home as well.
     
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/haroldfurchtgottroth/2014/10/12/fcc-plans-stealth-internet-tax-increase/

     
  2. Yay. More liberal bullshit

    hey man. ba-a-a-ack off. I can be a sheep all I want!
     
  3. This could be really really big.. Hope the FCC fails on its tyrannical plan
     
  4. This is big, and they WILL do this one day. Why?
     
    People cannot survive in this world without internet, we all have it, we're all accustomed to it. It's become a necessity 
     
  5. #5 -Martyr, Oct 14, 2014
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    No Aaron Swartz to pull a David and Goliath like with SOPA this time.
     
  6. #6 LoveisKind, Oct 14, 2014
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    Fuck this shit. They just want more money to fuck even more people (especially the already shrinking middle class over).

    They are probably thinking of it like food, light, and housing being a necessity as well and all of those things are taxed.... :/ I can still see how this would fuck up a lot of people to pay for even more things when it's already hard for a lot of us to stretch the money we have. A lot of people are just surviving by working all the time and not actually living.
     
  7. #8 ChristopherABrown, Oct 14, 2014
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    Meaning a revision of the first amendment that was a part of lawful peaceful revolution which brought back the global village would probably be okay with you.

    My draft revision of the 1st amendment as one of three being "Preparatory Amendment" to an Article V convention.

    REV. Amendment I
    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; Congress shall see that nothing abridges the freedom of speech and the primary methods or systems of it shall not be abridged and be first accessible for the unity of the people with its possible greater meaning through understanding one another in; forgiveness, tolerance, acceptance, respect, trust, friendship and love protecting life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Congress shall see that nothing abridges freedom of the press in its service to the unity of the people; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances or defense of this constitution.
     
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    I hope you are right but look at it...this plan is already pushing forth and there doing it without hardly any news on it. Its a boring subject and most don't understand it. In my experience in the scope of my life taxes never ever go down it seems they go up. Once this is established expect them to increase it as time goes on.
     
  9. #10 ChristopherABrown, Oct 14, 2014
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    Unfortunately you are quite correct about media having little info on this critical aspect vital to the peoples sharing and unifying for action upon important information.

    You might note in my draft amendment how communications are secured for the unity of the people and that freedom of the press serves that as well. Meaning if that amendment were made, it would be against the law for corporate media to allow the public to be ignorant upon issues critically effecting their ability to share information.

    The tyranny upon us has a pyramidal aspect where abridging of one right in the beginning only effects a couple immediately afterwards, whereas later on, abridging one can effect many.
     
  10. Of course
    It's the government
    They want more power and control and more money
     
  11. I'm not sure this is politically feasible.


    If anything I think they'd place a tax on internet providers, which would be passed on to the buyer given the in elasticity of internet.

    They'll find a more creative way to tax it, just like everything else.
     
  12. Taxation is slavery....
     
  13. The FCC is a "liberal" organization now?

    Because liberals have a long history of defending censorship?
     
  14. Use periods instead of question marks and you're spot on.
     
  15. I think liberal in the sense that they want to tax the internet, causing higher prices for everyone, in order to give cheap/free internet to low income folks

    :smoke:

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  16. #17 Alaric, Oct 16, 2014
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    The job of the middle class is not to prop-up the lower class so they can have luxuries like cable or fiber optic internet. Necessities of life are fine but no, I will not pay for someone to have access to online gaming and video chat. Fuck that, those people need to go get an education and work, we will already give out financial, FAFSA aid, and offer zero interest and no payback until after graduation. That is nuts, no way we bear the burden of the laziness and incompetence of the lower class, as we also work to make the rich even richer. 
     
    Here is an idea, make the rich pay the same tax rates as the middle class.
     
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    Or, we can just not tax anyone, as it's impossible to allocate money as efficiently by means of taxation than voluntary payment because of overhead.
     

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