It turns out that its possible to build a full size car that gets 200 mpg

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  1. Check this out.
     
    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10201677077718343&fref=nf
     
     
    In case the link stops working, this guy fixed his truck so that it ran on fumes and got about 200 miles per gallon.  It looks like the car companies have known about this and haven't been designing the technology to take advantage of this phenomenon.  I suppose they made a deal with the oil companies.

     
  2. Facebook posts are about as believable as youtube videos.
     
  3. the gas can acts like a bong with the gasoline at the bottom. its fucking brilliant. the engine would be running lean i suppose but that looks entirely feasible! 
     
  4. Fuel efficient cars are weak.

    Electric cars are cool though.


    "I'm to drunk.... To taste this chicken"... - Talladega nights
     
  5. #6 †TheGrow†, Oct 8, 2014
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    I don't think they are that weak... This is only a street car BTW meaning it has full dash,foor panels, no lexan or one piece front end.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2_9kPguTNs
     
  6. Here's something I just came across.
     
     
    http://www.electrifyingtimes.com/gasolinevapor.html
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    RUNNING ON VAPOR
    By Bruce Meland, 
    Editor and Publisher of Electrifying Times


    It is an often a misconception that most vehicles burn gasoline vapors in their internal combustion engines. The fact of the matter is, gasoline powered vehicles burn finely divided particles or droplets that are sprayed from the carburetor or fuel injectors, into the engine cylinders. 

    This is a very wasteful process of converting gasoline or diesel to energy. Maybe 20-30 % efficiency at most. It has been known and demonstrated for 60 or more years that burning gasoline vapors will give easily 5 times the mpg and near zero emissions. Actually if the vapors are heated to the necessary temperature of 450 degrees F, the gasoline vapors are actually fractionalized by catalytic cracking and converted to smaller light molecular hydrocarbons, methane and methanol. In my travels around the world I have been in contact with some very informed inventors, relatives or associates of inventors who have known of many high mileage low emission vapor carburetors. I am sure many of you have heard of the Pogue, Covey, and Fish high mileage carburetors.

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  7. Aren't you the same guy posting about the moon landing being faked?
     
  8. Sorry let me clarify. I mean "weak" slang wise.

    Weak: unimpressive, or not good. For example,"that song is weak".

    I'm a fan of eco friendly stuff, so gasoline ran vehicles are weak to me.


    "I'm to drunk.... To taste this chicken"... - Talladega nights
     
  9. http://truedemocracyparty.net/2011/09/200-mpg-pogue-carburetor/
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    Updated on Monday, May 24, 2010 in Technical Innovations
    the 200-mpg carburetor
    Pogue Carburetor
    Don Garlits, a drag racing legend, poses Aug. 2, 2002, with a 125-miles-per-gallon Pogue Carburetor at Don Garlits Museum of Drag Racing, Ocala, Florida.”

    photo by Bruce Ackerman, Star Banner, 2002
    In Dec. 12, 1936 Canadian Automotive Magazine states that the standard carburetor gets about 25 mpg at only 9% efficiency. Therefore the Pogue carburetor is 72% efficient overall at 200 mpg.

    “A carburetor that would allow a car to travel 200 miles on a gallon of gas caused oil stocks to crash when it was announced by its Canadian inventor Charles Nelson Pogue in the 1930s. But the carburetor was never produced in enough volume, and mysteriously, Pogue went overnight from impoverished inventor to the manager of a successful factory making oil filters for the motor industry. Ever since, suspicion has lingered that oil companies colluded to bury Pogue's invention.”
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    http://www.blog.hasslberger.com/2007/04/pogue_carburetor_gasoline_vapo.html
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    There is a website and a CD that have 604 carburetor patents that have been assigned to various companies and never developed. There were 53 inventors who wouldn't sell out. Each of them had fatal "accidents" two to three weeks after refusing to sell their patent(s). I knew four of these inventors personally. The website ishttp://www.fuelvapors.com/.
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    https://www.google.es/?gws_rd=ssl#q=Pogue%2C+Covey%2C+and+Fish+high+mileage+carburetors
     
     
  10. i cant find yay or nay on the topic anywhere. so im probably going to show the video to my father in law, the families long time mechanic. i still feel like it would work, especially if you used an old Honda "lean burn" engine. like a CRX HX/VX model. i believe only the HF/VX Civics an CRX's had the lean burn engine.
    i want to see other people do this. i dont believe it could be done with a fuel injected car... ever since i got my Metro, ive gotten into the "hyper-miling" thing.
    i bet it could be done with a throttle body injected car like a Metro or a 4 cylinder GM car from the 80's through the mid 90's.(the Chevrolet Metro was the last car to be sold in America with throttle body injection.
     
  11. I'll take that bet. 
     
  12. you supply the car and ill build the gas can bong apparatus. 
     
  13. There's no need to actually build a 200 mpg car to win the bet, you simply have to prove it's possible.
     
  14. wheres the fun then?
     
    just wish i had an extra old car and time. 
     
  15. Check this out.
     
    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1n8bc0_volkswagen-s-new-300mpg-car-banned-in-america-planned-obsolescence-at-its-finest_news
    http://thespiritscience.net/2014/05/25/volkswagens-new-300-mpg-car-not-allowed-in-america-because-it-is-too-efficient/
    https://www.google.es/search?q=Volkswagen%27s+New+300MPG&oq=Volkswagen%27s+New+300MPG&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.171
     
     
    These stories may or may not be true.

    http://fuel-efficient-vehicles.org/energy-news/?page_id=941

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    In 1982; in Denver, Col.; I designed and built an ugly but functional vapor carb. for my 1967 Dodge Coronet. It used exhaust heat to assist in the vaporizing of the gasoline- which was sprayed into the heat exchanger at the bottom of the device- and the vapor rose through a maze of approx. 25 feet folded back and forth on itself at which it exited into a 2 1/2″ ID hose (radiator hose) which I ran to an adapter on top of my existing carb which I used to start the 318 cubic inch engine. I achieved 87 miles per gallon. The machine shop that I had help me make the contraption told me that they had helped an earlier inventor with a very NICE carb. to adapt it to his auto – with approximately similar results. (Mine only ran me about $500 total w/ all the junk you have to assemble to get it to work.) They warned me not to make it too public, because the other inventor got the notice of some oil people from Texas who came up and gave him an offer to assume his invention. He refused. His home and workshop burned down 2 days later! He moved to parts unknown.
    I just thought you might find it interesting to hear from someone who has done this before. My point in the whole thing was; “If I could achieve 80+ mpg with a total of $500 invested- on a '67 Dodge Coronet 318 V8; what could Chrysler do with the millions they have to invest?”

    “In 1933 Charles Nelson Pogue made headlines when he drove a 1932 Ford V8, 200 miles on a gallon of gas during a demonstration conducted by The Ford Motor Company in Winnipeg, Manitoba using his super-carb system.” The Pogue Carb went into production and was sold openly. [317 were sold?] In the opening months of 1936, stock exchange offices and brokers were swamped with orders to dump all oil stock immediately. His invention caused such shock waves through the stock market, that the US and Canadian governments both stepped in and [successfully] applied pressure to stifle him.
    “he saw Mr. Pogue in the midst of a bunch of oil company big wigs. He named the wigs, but I forget the names. They were heads of Texaco, Shell, Esso, etc. Some of them had red faces, and Mr. Pogue looked like a trapped rabbit.”
    Pogue went overnight from impoverished inventor to the manager of a successful factory making oil filters for the motor industry.
    [ see photo of Don Garlits with Pogue carb. on "Super Carburetors Hist." page ]
    see Charles Pogue Carb.

    Ron Brandt is the inventor of the perm-mag motor.
    When he was a young man, he invented a 90-mpg carburetor. He was paid a visit by a man from Standard Oil, another man, and two men wearing US Marshal uniforms. They told him that if he ever made another carburetor, they would kill him, his wife, and two young children. He was quickly persuaded that his life wasn't worth a “damn” carburetor. He happened to think to memorize the badge numbers of the two US Marshals and so had an attorney in Washington, DC check with the US Marshal's office. They had no record of the two badge numbers.

    Tom Ogle, a 24 year old mechanic drove 200 miles in a 1970 351 ci. Ford on 2 gallons of gas. Other mechanics and engineers checked for hidden tanks, none were found. Reporters and a camera crew went with him 100 miles out and back; 200 miles 2 gallons. He claimed from the beginning that he did not know exactly how the system worked, just that it did and he proved it time and again. He had hoped other engineers would help to explain what he was doing. I have seen three different news articles on him and reprinted here for your understanding. One states he turned down $ 25 million from backers that would keep it off the market. He had a hard time getting backers that had integrity. Everybody wanted controlling interest and he knew it was going on the back shelf. Tom resisted and tried to get it on the market. Later he was shot and survived, only four months later he did die of an overdose of darvon and alcohol with no suicide note. Nobody explained what became of his idea. A patent was issued Dec. 11, 1979 # 4,177,779. Four months after his death.
    see Tom Ogle Carb.
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    I see no reason to rule them out yet.
     
  16. That's crazy.


    I'm driving a v8 ford that get about 350 km of a 60 litter tank just because of some who didn't want to lose money with oil.

    What a shame.


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  17. Yes, that is crazy.  And it's a shame anyone believes it.
     

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