Oh my stars and garters people! Get the antacid out for the anti gunites. I am pretty in tune with the gun world as thats how I make my living. I recall very well watching the news in the state I am in the coverage of North Carolina allowing CCW's (Concealed Carry Weapon) into bars. If you had listened to the news North Carolina was going to turn into a bloodbath. A holocaust of carnage would descend upon that states people in a biblical amount. They even said North Carolina would in the future be used to justify banning weapons. Every liberal politican lined up to say it would end in tragic deaths. Well well well...not a singular instance of it has emerged after a year. No crazy drunk people machine gunning citizens, no blood bath as predicted. Could it be that law abiding citizens are responsible? Oh no we can't have that that simply is not possible! The nanny state must regulate all things. Enjoy anti-gunites. NC: One Year of “Guns in Barsâ€â€¦Where's the Mayhem? Grass Roots North Carolina (GRNC) writes [via ammoland.com]: House Bill 937, which became effective on October 1, 2013, expanded North Carolina's concealed handgun law into restaurants where alcohol is sold and consumed, assemblies of people for which admission is charged, parades and funerals, state and municipal parks, and (to a limited extent) educational properties. As always, opponents and media naysayers predicted shootings in bars, guns stolen from vehicles at schools, and various other sorts of mayhem. They used platitudes like “guns and alcohol don't mix.†As the GRNC explained endlessly . . . Concealed handgun permit-holders, by virtue of background checks and training, had proven themselves sane, sober and law-abiding since 1995, with a rate of permit revocation on the order of three tenths of a single percent. We explained that permit-holders in restaurants would still be prohibited from imbibing alcohol. But the dire predictions persisted. Editorials ridiculed legislators. UNC president Tom Ross sent UNC police chiefs to testify against the bill, claiming it would hamper their ability to protect students. Gun control activists pushed restaurants to post against concealed carry. So what has happened? It has now been one year since HB 937 became effective. So what has happened? Nothing. GRNC monitors clipping services for gun-related incidents. Just like Virginia, Ohio, Tennessee and other states which adopted restaurant carry, however, we have been unable to find a single instance of a concealed handgun permit-holder misusing a gun in a restaurant or educational property. http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2014/10/robert-farago/nc-one-year-guns-bars-wheres-mayhem/
Man faces prison and felony for shooting two would be armed robbers dead in a bar in TEXAS http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/Reports-Two-men-fatally-shot-while-trying-to-rob-5800877.php http://www.khou.com/story/news/local/2014/10/04/man-halts-robbery-kills-two-suspects/16714947/ http://bearingarms.com/unwilling-abide-stupid-texas-gun-laws-hero-kills-2-4-armed-robbers/
Well, political nonsense and supression of rights begins with nonsensical propaganda. California just passed a report your neighbor law. Any person at any time can report any gun owner and swat shows up, kicks the door in, shoots people and takes the guns. Then the owner has a year to appeal the seizure. So lets hope its halted by the supreme court before cops die trying to raid homes and kill innocent people. Because nobody is going to surrender weapons to that type of tyranny and those comments are flying all over the net on every web page now. Really scary shit.
Indeed its scary...yet anyone that talks about gun control paints the citizen as evil, babbles about backround checks...thats it. Meanwhile everything they pass is counter to there claims. You can 100% be certain in the state of California which is shrinking actually and thankfully under 100% drought will keep your guns for that full year regardless if its a false claim. They had attempted to force registration of ammo purchases but Gov Brown suprisingly did not sign that legislation.
California will learn very hard. Its a slow state mentally, but makes a lot dirty money with illegals and industries of exploitation. More people suck the tit than feed the cow so itll all blow up one day. One year is long enough to pickup roots and take taxes elsewhere Funny enough, he didnt make building of guns illegal, so anyone can buy an 80% and build Unregistered, non traceable guns on their kitchen table, guns like ak47s or anything you can imagine. But he made it so that registered gun owners can have their guns seized....what does this encourage? Its pretty logical whos the criminal, the citizen. They have gutted prop 215. Fresno county banned the growing of marijuana. So even if we voters pass laws, these corrupt bastards just overturn them.
Really good Forbes magizine article on how California for decades has done nothing to avert this water disaster. They knew what could happen from studies and never did squat. 80 billion dollar train to no where which could build many a desalitation plants.
Ah, you give them too little credit my friend They drained millions of gallons of water from reses for "trout" http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304547704579565622649474370
Good thread throwing the facts about responsible gun ownership in the face of liberals brainwashed by NWO, MKultra, programmed mass murderers used to incite fervor for gun control. Gotta respect states that know and trust the public that way. California is actually worse than this thread reports. The state gives water to trout, but refuses to assure that damage to the terrestrial waterways by gasoline additives is understood by the public while it's governor (Davis) is sued by a Canadian producer of the additive (maybe) under NAFTA and the gov cannot use California law or US law as a defense because NAFTA is treason and usurps US law in US territory. They don't even assure the public knows that! Then the gun control is imposed while counties have the aid of state court judges assuring they can violate health and safety code assuring mass murderers can actually find relief in mental health care rather than mass murder. So what do we have in idyllic Santa Barbara? Twenty two killed in mass murders in 13 years, all within 5 miles of the mental health department which was informed of a treatment capable of helping severe disorders. That mental health department provided a defacto approval of the treatment by agreeing to carry the request forwards to the state. The supervisors blocked the written or any other response. This was after an effort to get old records that would prove to psychology the great potential for working direct with the unconscious mind. The sherifs department failed to appear on subpoena in a civil case trying to get the same treatment developed. The supervisors were informed that the public was in danger of extreme violence and the court pleadings stated the same. The judge had no problem ripping me off for my rights. The local newspaper was bought up to stop a story about a 2006 lawsuit trying again to get the same thing done, 16 dead since then.
I understand that a lot of people are pro guns and with good reasons. The one thing that annoys me is how a lot of people who are pro guns act holier than thou and that they know everything about guns and the impact that they have on society. I'm not really for gun control, definitely not banning guns, but it annoys me how you guys constantly victimize yourselves and act like there is no grey room in this debate. I agree liberal politicians are idiots and like to make overblown statements, but what else do you expect from a politician except that kind of bullshit. The point is we get it, you guys like guns, stop acting like everyone in the world is trying to steal them from you.
Yet they are. Controlling weapons in insidious ways from small to large is in effect gun control. Ask the fine people of DC, Chicago prior to just recently had bans on various weapons. Just this month Federal Courts told DC that with all haste to allow CCW.
What is curious is that criminality is a mental health issue in many ways, drug addiction being central often, and of course mass murders like Virginia tech are, all used to justify gun control. At the dailypaul forum in the 2nd amendment section, mention of it has a dozen cognitive infiltrators immediately objecting to mental health checks before selling weapons. Refusing to acknowledge that I never mentioned that, and was talking about mental health care generally because it is adjunct to the issue of mass murders, obviously used to enact gun control laws.
Such a joke....mental qualification. See thats a great issue to debate. When the normal person thinks of it I think we can all agree that some psychotic should not have it. So you would think it would revolve around that. -What defines that? Does the man who goes to angry managment which I would wager in the million mark has disqualify you? -Someone who takes valium which in the tens of millions take daily? -How do you bypass the Health Care Privacy Act which can result in large lawsuits and has if someone violates that? -Does therapy for 10 years because someone was abused qualify that. You could go on and about it. Its like California's new law....it sounds good on the surface but its disaster in the making. The Governor last month signed it into effect. If someone even calls the police on a issue that is not defined and no outcome of a court yet they can take your weapons until the case is settled for up to a year. So next time a Californian friend pisses me off I shall try this as a experiment! I will keep you guys posted on the results of such named experiment. It will be for something mild but we document how long it takes to get his weapons back.
Federal law does not supersede state law. Colorado is a good example of that. 100% of there cannabis actions are in direct violation of US Federal Law and are Federal felonies. The worshipers of the State would have you believe that State law means nothing.
And they will do such and then say you can only have one if you have good and substantial reason Yea no mental health check is absurd, in MD it is 30 days confined to a mental facility, which is still more than generous. It should be the second you are committed
Why I do not live in DC. I live in the freedom loving Arizona where I require no CCW at all to carry. When in Arizona assume that everone is carrying..guess what? No blood bath. Want to shoot a weapon just drive off the road outside of city limits and if its public property no issues. Why many Youtube gun reviews notice there in the desert....usually Arizona. Another thing that is stupid on DC is your being generous to say you have to have it for a substantial reason. Please do tell the whole story...I will since you did not.... When you get a CCW you list a reason. One of the reasons DC has said is NOT a reason..NOT is "self defense". The only reason I carry when I leave the house is so I can put down a animal attempting a assault on myself or property.
Yes but it is not necessary in these places that are not open country, plus the fact they were not exposed to firearms as young as some people and not at all taught about them in the right context. meaning the way rap and hip hop promote them for carrying and violence.
My point is that mental health care is abominable everywhere. Here in isla vista 6 were killed, 3 with knives, by a 22 year old with aspergers who had 2 psychologists for 6 years. Accordingly mental health checks before gun sales is absurd because no one will ever improve. The other aspect is the surrounding costs to the public. Prisons, health care and a host of othe issues.