Defoliation of a scrog? Should i?

Discussion in 'Advanced Growing Techniques' started by Lurchio123, Sep 30, 2014.

  1. ImageUploadedByGrasscity Forum1412090918.460424.jpg can i hear opinions on whether to defoliate or leave it be?.. Preferably from other scroggers!


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  2. high! the last time i even talked about this subject the haters came out like roaches. this is my thought on it and what works for me. i run low watt lights. i don't scrog but tie them bitches down, top em, fim em, and supper crop them. it turns them into bushes i want many bud sites typically 40 to 60 per sq ft. the reason i even thought about it was article on HT web page. and it's true 25 to 35 days into flower 25 on heavy indicas   20/80   35days on 50/50 it lets more light through the canopy. light is food, a leaf over a bud is like a umbrella no light is hitting all those bud site i am trying to make. it works for me. 30% more harvest after harvest. more tricomes on more buds. try it or don't.  and to the haters kma
     
  3. I am a major skeptic but an trying it on a Kushage plant right now but it isn't one in my scrog. I figure if it works it works whether in scrog, sog or whatever. I am a scrogger too and I do selectively remove leaves that seem to restrict airflow or cover up another top. I haven't up until now removed leaves to get light to the buds because having a biology degree I understand that very little photosynthesis is performed in the flower itself and of course that is the actual power. We will see how she reacts over the next week or so. This is a 50/50 at about 5 weeks so we will see.
     

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  4. Your degree should teach you that any green part of the plant performs photosynthesis. When the buds are small, the leaves are definitely more effective at taking in energy. As the buds grow and the leaves tire out, the buds themselves begin to be more effective at taking in energy for themselves.

    Proof? you make ask. Have you ever had a bud that got so big the branch flopped over the last couple weeks of flowering. That underside of the bud that doesn't get as much light won't be nearly as developed as the side that recieved the bulk of the light. On an apple tree, an apple that has a leaf covering one side will have one side that is less ripe than the other. That leaf didn't provide an equal amount of food for both sides of the bud (or the apple). The bud needs the light directly.
     
  5. I personal do not defoliate any plants till harvest. I dont scrog, the plants grow bushy and heavy buds will make the plant lay low.
     
    A trimmed up scrog does look cool though, its just not my style.
     
    I kind of like leaving the plants alone to grow. Not fucking with them.
     
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    My buds don't really have much leaf in them tbh... that is why I am trying it with this Kushage because it has a higher leaf to bud ratio than my other strains... if it works I will be the first to admit. I have never had a bud so big the branch flopped over but I keep my plants very short and bushy so I doubt it would ever happen. This is a typical plant of mine, not more than 12-14" tall but with 9-10 main colas in a 1.25 sq ft area. Every bud was that size and the plant was done 87 days from sprout.
     
    Does the defoliation stress the plant at all causing a longer flowering period? I did see a guy post some results that looked promising so I am less skeptical than I was last week.
     

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  7. I would only defoliate if you think the plant needs it. I only do it on my plants that have such tight node spacing that the leaves are stacked on top of each other. In plants like that, they actually explode with growth once a few leaves are removed. I also like to remove a few leaves that cover buds. If you don't have leaves covering your buds and you get adequate airflow, no need to chop them. I think the bigger the plant the more important trimming can become.
     
  8. You guys in general seem share the same opinions as me.. Thing is i would rather tuck than remove and if i was somewhere in the world where the humidity was lower than 70% average i would be tucking rather than removing but the reason i am asking is where leaves are overlaping and touching they are condensating and if you run ya hands through the canopy your hand is actually wet and i cant see that leading to good things in the end.. I have defoliated a small amount and im gonna get under the net and trim a few more of the no hope shoots off so hopefully that will do it.. Heres another pic about a week on ImageUploadedByGrasscity Forum1412243098.628216.jpg


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  9. Consider this. The leafs and buds that arnt in any light can not make food for themselves. They will steel it from the plant. Its similar to the reasons we lollipop. Get rid of the junk getting no light that will stay light and fluffy so the plant can put the food and energy where we want it. The big colas.

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