What Is The Best Way To Herm A Plant?

Discussion in 'First Time Marijuana Growers' started by StaffOfPower, Sep 21, 2014.

  1. I have a small plant, maybe 2 weeks into flowering, and I was thinking that id like to experiment and try to turn it herm and try to do a little feminized breeding.

    I know about spraying colloidal silver, but I don't have the equipment to make any silver water. What are the other options?

    Also, I know this may not produce the kind of seeds I'm hoping for. That's why I said "experiment". Please don't tell me not to do it. I'd just like to see what happens.
     
  2. If heard people resolving aspirin into water and feeding it aspirin water, aspirin is salicylic acid and is also a a stress hormone in plants
     
  3. Leave a small light on one side during dark hours.

    Youll get bananas :smoke:
     
  4. Program a timer to flip lights on and off during the dark time would prolly work too.
     
  5. wouldnt the seeds be hermie too then?
     
  6. I made a kit to make colloidal silver for less than $10. A silver coil, a 9-volt battery connector with alligator clips and a 9-volt battery. All on ebay with free shipping.
     
  7. Thanks for all the advice, I really appreciate it!

    So would it be a BAD idea to do all of these things at once? Lol.

    I want a few seeds, these are the best genetics I've worked with, and the best I've even seen in a while. So i was thinking if I did all of these things, surely SOMETHING would trigger it. Right?
     
  8. #9 waktoo, Sep 22, 2014
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    Any "female" cannabis plant that can be forced to herm' itself by subjecting it to environmental stress during flowering is not a true breeding female. If it herm's that means the genetic tendency to express hermaphroditic traits was already present in the plant's genetic coding. Seeds produced from environmentally stressed females will produce male, "female", AND hermaphroditic plants.
     
    @[member="StaffOfPower"]

    Do some research on colloidal silver generators. medgrow' is right. They can be put together for very little money and time. The presence of the hermaphroditic gene applies here as well. If you use colloidal silver to induce pollen production on a female plant that's not true breeding, you will wind up with some seeds being hermaphrodite.
     
    If you're only about two weeks into flowering and you really like the plant, why not take a few branch cuts from the base of the plant and make clones out of them?  It's not too late...
     
  9. re-plant it several times. anything that causes stress.
     
  10. @[member="waktoo"] The reason I didn't do that, is because it already is a clone that's flowering. The mother is about 3 weeks from harvest, outdoors. I only have one other clone at the moment. I suppose I could make that a mother... How easy is it to keep a mother going, though?
     
  11. Well, you have to have separate veg' and flowering spaces, because a mother has to be kept in veg', obviously. After that, it's pretty easy. Keep it growing in as big a pot as you can, I would suggest at least 5 gallons minimum. You'll also probably want to look into trellising technique, look into "LST" (Low Stress Training) around the grow boards. This will keep the plant at a more manageable height, and also provides for increased amounts of light reaching what would otherwise be "lower branches" on a normally grown plant. It creates a more even canopy, and is also a great way to grow your plants in general. You basically just bend the plant over sideways and train it to grow horizontally. It takes a little more veg' time for the training, but makes up for that extra time with increased yields.

    'Course if space and time are a factor for you, you can just take clones from clones from clones. As long as your plant is good and healthy when you take clones from it, you should experience no degradation in the quality of the smoke over successive cloning generations. If your cloning skills aren't solid yet, I'd be sure to take several at a time to insure that at least one survives to keep the strain alive.
     
    Or are you purely outdoor and wanting to keep the plant alive until next years outdoor season?
     
  12. I'm familiar with the LST method, I've used it on a couple plants, I like it a lot. The separate veg and flower rooms are an issue -- at the time, anyway.

    I was wondering about that - taking clones from clones. Good to know.

    Another thing I wondered about though, is keeping a bonsai mother. I saw it either on this forum or a similar one, and it seems like that may be an option. It allows you to keep it in a small pot as well. Do you know anything about this? Can you offer any input?


    Also, I have an outdoor grow finishing up right now. I plan to grow indoor during the winter, if not exclusively after that. If I can get this figured out, I'll do it however I need to in order to keep this strain alive lol.
     
  13. Also, how many watts in cfls might it take to keep a bonsai mother alive, if I would happen to set up a little cabinet for it or something?

    Because I have a 600w HPS + MH Conversion for my closet, but I have to veg and flower in the same space.
     
  14. Give it weird mommy issues.
     
  15. #17 StaffOfPower, Sep 23, 2014
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    Yeah, that's the guide I saw! Nice. I'm thinking I'll follow that and see what happens.

    One related question though - like in that guide, I'm using a rooted cutting to turn into a mother. Long story short, I left the cutting in the bubble cloner for a little too long and the roots are insanely long now. The upper parts of all the roots are kinda brownish too but I don't THINK they're dead or anything.
    Question is, should I cut the roots back a little now or would that be too risky of a move? It has a little N deficiency but other than that I'm pretty sure it's healthy.

    Edit: I guess "tan/off white" might be a better description for the roots than "brown".
     
  16. @[member="StaffOfPower"]
     
    NEVER cut roots, unless you're trying to reveg' a flowered plant.
     
    How are you planning on keeping this cut alive?  Hydro or soil?
     
  17. #19 StaffOfPower, Sep 24, 2014
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    Ohh. Well see, here's what happened...

    The clone I selected to use as the prospective mother had been in my cloner for a while. When I pulled it out and planted it (soil), I noticed the roots on the 4 inch clone were like 3 FEET long.
    At first, I tried to just plant it and kind of loosely ball the roots up in the pot. I filled it with soil, watered a bit, and stuck it under my light (single CFL bulb).
    Came back like 2 or 3 hours later and it was severely wilted. Soil was still damp, but not soggy. So i ended up concluding that I was going to work on it. I realized I'd put it in too big of a pot anyway.
    So I emptied out the soil, gently removed the clone, trimmed two individual roots a bit (not too much at all, but enough) and then planted it in the smaller pot.

    The clone has not wilted or acted up at all since.

    I figured it would be okay since that's one step in the maintenance of bonsai moms anyway - cutting off a good amount of the root ball every so often to replant it in a smaller pot again.

    And if you have t gathered from this post, I'm intending on using soil. Not sure how youd keep a bonsai mom in hydro, though I'm open to the idea if anyone has suggestions.
     
  18. This is her now. Almost been exactly 24hrs since the final replant and root trimming I did last night. How does she look?

    Like I mentioned earlier I'm pretty sure she has a slight N deficiency and maybe some light deficiency too cause she was only under a 15w led panel til now.

    Other than that, how does she look?

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