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Whats The Difference In Cbd Oil From Industrial Hemp Or Cbd Oil From Medical Marijuana?

Discussion in 'Medical Marijuana Usage and Applications' started by mberam, Sep 2, 2014.

  1. Hello All, 
     
    Can anyone explain the difference between buying the CBD oil that is legal and comes from industrial hemp as opposed to buying the CBD oil at a dispensary that comes from medical marijuana?
     
    I'm looking to use it for anxiety, but I do not want to get high. It's very confusing online. If it's from industrial hemp than it's legal everywhere without a prescription. But if it's from a medical marijuana plant, it's not. Is there a difference in potency? 
     
    Are there any strains of medical marijuana at the dispensary, that have virtually no THC and very high levels of CBD? 
     
    If someone could explain, it would be greatly appreciated.  Thank you. 

     
  2. Pretty sure the CBD oil that comes from industrial hemp has zero psychoactive qualities as it has very very low amounts of THC.  Whether it works or not still remains to be seen, as no scientific studies can be done in the US currently.
     
    Also, Industrial Hemp is tehcnically not Marijuana, again it has no psychoactive compounds.  It's the same genus of flora, just not the same species.  
     
    If you're looking for help with anxiety, I don't think that CBD rich strains will help you.  CBD rich strains are being used for cancer treatments and other debilitating conditions.  Typically the compunds that help with anxiety are the same compounds that are psychoactive, i.e. the THC.
     
    As to your other question, YES there are strains you can find in clubs that are very very high in CBD and have very low amounts of THC.  My wife used one for her menstural cramps that seemed to help out.  They are few and far between though.
     
  3. #3 beaniegrl420, Sep 3, 2014
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    The biggest difference is that, when it's medical, it comes from the flowers or other cannabinoid rich parts of the plant. Industrial hemp has very little cannabinoid material and is mostly going to be what was squeezed away from the fibrous parts. It's industrial waste, not medical grade material, that they buy from countries that have legalized hemp production, like Canada and China. 
     
    The test results that they post on things like RSHO are supposed to be 15% CBD, out of a gram, usually. That's 150mg/1000mg They don't post what the remaining 85% is on those things either.  Medical grade is usually more in the 40-60% range, giving you 400-600mg/1000, a much purer product. 
     
    Of course, that's all guessing, because they don't actually provide the original weight, meaning you can't prove it one way or another, just gotta take their word for it. http://realscientifichempoil.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/coa011514.pdf
     
    And, even though the original link says "Steel Hill Laboratories" takes you to STEEP Hill, but the pdf is from a place called Phytosphere, which is, you guessed it a lab that specializes in testing industrial hemp! That is, probably owned by the same company peddling it. 

    For anxiety, your best bet is to go medical grade and get some edibles or flowers. You WILL find something! :)
     
  4. Most companies selling CBD have an analysis of what cannabinoids are in it. My understanding is MJ whatever the strain is by nature high in THCA and low 2% or less in CBDA. Hemp is just the reverse no THCA to speak of <1% and high 16-24% CBDA. The CBD oil I take is from Hemp, certified by Canna lab in Colorado as <.04% THC. Which means you wont feel high at all. The only thing I felt from the CBD oil is some stomach minor ache if I take it on a empty stomach. I have read that our endocannabiniod receptors in our brain uses the CBD to modulate the high feeling that the THC brings. CBD is being looked at for a lot of nerve related illnesses so it may help
     
  5. wouldn't industrial grade oil be high in industrial pollutants. if it was grown for industrial use it would not matter what kind of crap they put on it to grow and then what is used to strip the oils from the plant?  it is not sounding like a good idea to use industrial product for medical purposes.
     
  6.  
    Exactly!! China isn't known for its high food standards period. 
     
     
    And, sorry for not answering before, YES! Depending on where you are, it may require a bit of searching (try weedmaps, for legal states) 
     
    The lowest you will find of THC is 0.5%. Ive never seen ANYTHING less. And that's ok, because a small amount of THC is required for the best results from the CBD. Science has proven again and again. That's not anecdotal. 
     
    Cannatonic, Harelqeuin, AC/DC, Ambulance, CannaTsunami, Sour Tsunami, and more each day that are discovered, are all CBD rich strains. Their ratio of CBD to THC will vary, so always go for a strain that has been verified and tested! Ask to see the results, too. 
     
    Also, I find it much easier to medicate with CBD rich edibles, instead of smoking flowers. Another option for medical states. :) 
     
  7. I've been taking the Dixie CBD hemp oil for a few months now, and I've noticed very positive results from taking it.
     
    I understand that it might not be the safest product to take, and also I understand that it's WAY better to use mmj products. But if someone doesn't have the ability to take any mmj products, then I think it might be a decent substitute, if CBD might be helpful for that person's health conditions. They'd have to weigh the pros and cons.
     
    I should be getting my own supply of mmj in a couple of months from now, if everything works out right, and then I'll stop the CBD oil.
     
    Here's something I've been wondering about, and I wonder if anybody knows the answer: Is there CBD in standard hemp oil that's sold as a food item? Also, are there any cannabinoids in the standard hemp seeds that are sold as a food item?
     
  8.  
     
    Im very glad you have a chance to receive the benefits of any cannabinoids. I really am. It's not patients I get upset with, it's these damn companies!!  Gauging patients by charging five times what they should for 1/5 the amount of cannabinoids.
     
     
    There are ...well not NO cannabinoids, but none that are going to give you the kind of help you want. Hemp seeds have like <.02% cannabinoid content...there's never going to be more than like .3% total cannabinoid weight in your hemp oil - it has to be less than can cause someone to fail a drug test (until we have medical grade hemp oil hehehehe) 
     
  9. Thanks a lot. You seem to be one of the most helpful people in the medicinal section recently. Your help is appreciated.
     
  10. Thank you so much! I love hanging out here and helping people and learning so much!
     
    I'm currently an unemployed, former dispensary employee, who has decided to make their life about medical cannabis. And Ive never been happier! :D 
     
    Im working on a website so that I can also provide services to people personally. Also, Im working in another career sector to try and bankroll what I hope will one day by my cannabis social club!!  Finally, all those years bartending will have amounted to something ;)  something WAY better.
     
  11. #11 PP117, Sep 4, 2014
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    I was guessing you were somehow connected to the industry. :)
     
    About the oil stuff (maybe some other people might find this interesting too): Ever since I started the CBD oil, my mood has been greatly improved, and sometimes I find myself smiling all day. Also sometimes I start giggling for no reason, and lots of things seem funny to me and make me laugh hard. I'm taking a very high dosage - about 36mgs of CBD a day. I think most people don't take such a large dosage from the oil, especially because it's so expensive. That ends up to be about $300 per month.
     
    I'm feeling certain that some of the effects I'm feeling are due to the oil, but also I'm very open-minded about it, and willing to accept other explanations.
     
    Do you think CBD oil could cause such effects in somebody? Also, do you think maybe there's enough THC in that product in order to contribute to such effects? I don't think they have the THC levels listed, and I don't feel comfortable to ask the company.
     
  12.  
    If it's the kind that you get on amazon, it won't have any THC in it. Legally, it can't (at least not any more than just the hemp oil would, which we've discussed) 
     
    If you are taking it for anxiety, and not also for depression, then, yes, that is a perfectly normal response, and, really what you should feel like. Sometimes you just gotta laugh in life! :D  I wish I could take 36mg a day, and, honestly, when I can I do! And it's a HUGE help. I also need to layer a sativa, because of the depression, and that is EXACTLY how I feel, and that's EXACTLY how I want to feel in my day!! Smiling, problem solving, pleasant...  Sounds like you're really getting some good benefits! Your nervous system is functioning smoothly, and you're able to enjoy life because of it. <3  
     
    MAN I LOVE WEED!!!!!
     
    I'm sure the added health benefits of the hemp oil may be helping too -the healthier we are, the better it all runs! ( I need to restock my own supply of hemp oil, I miss it, and my eyes get really dry without it)
     
    Throw all of these together, and in the larger doses that you have (which I happen to think is just the right kind of daily dosage for anxeity) and you keep on smiling!! 
     
  13. It's definitely fun to laugh! :) A couple days ago I had a laughing spell in an inappropriate place, and then I was like: "Now I know for SURE that something strange is going on with me!"
     
    I wasn't originally taking the CBD oil for depression/anxiety problems, but rather for cancer, and for another illness more serious to me than cancer. But the change in mood was something that made me feel like the CBD oil is definitely doing SOMETHING to my body, and that gave me hope that maybe it's having a positive effect on my other problems as well.
     
    I've also been taking regular hemp oil and hemp seeds, and pretty soon I'll be trying some hemp tea as well. I started growing mj for my first time recently, and my plants should be in the flowering stage in about a week from now. If everything goes well, I should have a nice stash in a couple months from now.
     
    That's interesting that you've mentioned about the hemp oil helping with eye dryness. I used to need eye drops whenever I woke up, but I just noticed that I haven't been using them for the past month or so. That's a big change for me.
     
  14. #14 beaniegrl420, Sep 4, 2014
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    Inappropriate times? lol well, Id watch it, and if you continue to see a wide range of inappropriate emotions, you might want to speak with a professional. It could be something else going on.
     
    However, it is also understood that our brain will release anxiety in the form of laughter (or tears, if you're me lol) when it is unnecessary. A slight trigger of anxiety, and your brains realization that it doesn't require the anxiety could result in inappropriate forms of releasing that anxiety. So, if it's not a nuisance, or seeping into other emotions that shouldn't be manifesting, seems good to me! 
     
    The eye drops thing was something I did too! Until a friend told me how her eye doctor recommended (it wasn't hemp, but something else good for you) oil for her eyes, and I was like YES! You are right! My eyes are way more lubricated! And instead of doing eye drops when my eyes were irritated (thanks to my astigmatism) I would take a tbsp of oil, and in a few minutes they were way better hydrated than the drops would have done for me! 
     
  15. @[member="PP117"] I need to ask... what brand of CBD OIL are you currrently using? Where did you get it etc... ? I am seeking to find a brand that may work to treat panic and anxiety. However, from what I continue to read, unless you are getting legit CBD oil... you are basically taking a shot in the dark when it comes to CBD oil companies.
     
  16. #16 PP117, Sep 11, 2014
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    I'm getting it from http://dixiebotanicals.com/. I researched the different brands, and I liked the ingredients of this company more.
     
    If you join their "Compassionate Care" monthly program on their website, you get a good deal. I would recommend the stronger version of their product. I've only tried the "natural" flavor, and I like the taste.
     
    A good thing about this particular company is that they are also a MMJ company in CO. Their mother company is called "Red Dice Holdings", but I read some news about how they're separating from this company.
     
    I think Dixie is the same as this company that sells MMJ products: http://dixieelixirs.com/ . It's comforting to me that the same company also legally makes MJ products, instead of just imported hemp.
     
    You should know that there has been some negative publicity about the company. There's something about how a former employee left the company and started complaining about their business practices. But then the company responded and said that the former employee was starting her own CBD company, so she was just trying to knock out the competition. It's easy to find that story online. I don't know which side to believe.
     
    Personally, I think the CBD oil is definitely worth a try, especially if you don't have access to MJ. It might not be the safest product in the world... but if it's 2 steps forward and 1 step backward with helping you solve your problems, it might be worth it.
     
  17. Cannabidiol (CBD) is a cannabinoid known largely for its muscle relaxant properties. Isolated on its own, CBD is non-psychoactive and it’s been reported to be effective in treating seizures, even in young children.
    Hemp CBD oil is derived from industrial hemp, the C. Sativa species of cannabis, which produces nearly no amount of the cannabinoid Delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), but does produce some amount of the cannabinoid Cannabidiol (CBD).
    Not many cannabis researchers or cannabis professionals will refute the efficacy and wonders of the cannabinoid Cannabidiol. It can be a potent and powerful product with amazing therapeutic benefits. However, the ways in which cannabidiol is extracted from industrial hemp plants, then manufactured, concentrated, formulated, etc., and delivered or administered to a customer or patient, is largely suspect.
    Here are some of the Hemp products. there are free from THC and you also wont get high.
     
  18. by going by the thread title.. the difference in cbd from industrial hemp, it would take a truck load to get any amounts of cannabinoids out of it and medical quality cannabis will produce more cannabinoids ( CBD/thc etc) per plant....
     

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