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Kief To Hash Oil Experiment

Discussion in 'Marijuana Consumption Q&A' started by DeFerrett, Aug 29, 2014.

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  1. #1 DeFerrett, Aug 29, 2014
    Making hash oil out of unpressed kief
     
  2. #2 DeFerrett, Aug 29, 2014
    Hello guys I have been experimenting with turning unpressed kief into dabble hash oil, I'm using girlscoutcookies kief it has a very nice savoring aroma.. So first I took a gram of kief and put it in a mason jar and added 95% ethanol an shook for aprx 3 minutes , after I strained it through my 25 micron screen & an unbleached coffee filter, then let it air evap the ethanol when there was only white left over water I placed it on a double boiler very low temp until all was gone scraped an placed onto my silicon mat to dry the extraction pulled 45% an was dark golden and was snap consistency I could bend an break like shatter but still had a slight I guess taffy like consistency when pulled slow but broke when pulled fast I could handle it with ungloved hands without it sticking so it was very stable it retained hints of its original kief Taste an smell but nothing like the original also the kief color was was golden blonde yet the oil was a darker gold very dark where it was thicker where as I thought it would be somewhat lighter the effects were amazing very potent starting in the face then working to the body. I redid the extraction with 10 grams of kief and got the same results in every aspect except getting 46%. So on the third extraction I used ten grams again but winterized the enthanol solution kief In all after strained an evaped place on double boiler this time noticed a lack minute dark specs so it did remove slight lipids fats and waxes but not many after scraping got the same result in color and consistency maybe slightly less taffy like but still had slight pull this time it pulled 45% , so it's currntly tacked up with direct fan on it to get any remaining moisture an is being flipped daily, it peels off in one piece tho. So after letting the strained material dry each weighed the remaining 64&65% of the beginning ten grams.. It looked like the starting kief without its golden look after looking at it closely with a fine microscope then at kief it looks to me like a skeleton like THC shell like the ethanol permeated the shell an took the essential oil with it. So I'm wondering if anyone could verify that or anything really haha, and I'm also wondering if the left over material could have any CBD's or CBN's left In it that could be used for something else .. As for the oil I'm wondering if maybe using butane first then winterizing would make the oil a lighter color or pull more terps for flavor an aroma I have enough kief to try different extractions methods or tweeks so any input would be greatly appreciated. Please no negative or rude comments good vibes only. Let's get the best we can out of this thread, thanks everyone
     
  3. #3 JaysForDays, Aug 29, 2014
    Wait you winterized a one gram kief extraction? Why?
     
  4. #4 DeFerrett, Aug 29, 2014
    To see how much oil I could pull out of it it managed to pull 45% so I figured that's what I would get out of the rest and as you read on I did pull exactly 45% and 46% with both ten gram runs


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  5. #5 DeFerrett, Aug 29, 2014
    Oh an I winterized the gram to pull lipids out Here is the kief the winterized ten gram run and the left over material ImageUploadedByGrasscity Forum1409305260.215613.jpg ImageUploadedByGrasscity Forum1409305273.614823.jpg ImageUploadedByGrasscity Forum1409305314.173801.jpg


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  6. #6 iphidamas, Aug 29, 2014
  7. #7 DeFerrett, Aug 29, 2014
    came here for input not trolls like you


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  8. #8 DeFerrett, Aug 29, 2014
    an what would you do sir RUNBHO with it please tell us what you would do instead of shitting out your mouth


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  9. #9 iphidamas, Aug 29, 2014
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    didnt know telling you that your final product looks like shit is trolling? lol. good effort though.
     
  10. #10 Joyetech, Aug 30, 2014
    id rather vape the kief....
     
  11. #11 DeFerrett, Aug 30, 2014
    your just a stingy old man who is talking shit an not contributing to anything I'm going to school for botany an medical marijuana and I'll bet I know a lot more about the cannabis plant then you could dream of so please keep your negative and rude comments to your self they don't help the thread at all and make you look stupid IMO


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  12. #12 DeFerrett, Aug 30, 2014
    unfortunately i don't like vaporizing its a different high from the medicine I have really bad back and disk problems so hash oil is really the only thing that helps the pain


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  13. #13 iphidamas, Aug 30, 2014
    im contributing by saying your product looks like garbage, bro. also im pretty sure you cant go to school to learn about medical marijuana lol. if you can, thats extremely retarded and a waste of money since everyone knows alot about it without going to school to learn about 1 drug.
     
  14. #14 snoopdog6502, Aug 30, 2014
    Whoever is making the keef should just make BHO to start with.
     
    You could also run the themos jug BHO method with the keef. pour it though a 45 micron bubble bag mesh.
     
  15. #15 enjoyandlive, Aug 30, 2014
    i hope thats non-gmo ethanol.
     
  16. #16 DeFerrett, Aug 30, 2014
    Wow so much for a cannabis community this place has too much hate for me I thought grasscity was people helping others in a positive not negative and rude way but I stand corrected again. Degree in botany for a career working with cannabis I don't need or seek your approval or respect I know where my life is going... Non gmo Food grade ethanol btw.... Was considering butane extraction but no vac so would want to winterized with ethanol anyway.. But I'm continuing this thread elsewhere other people are actually being helpful an giving advice and other idea in a courteous way instead of being a jerk and completely rude


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  17. #17 Joyetech, Aug 30, 2014
    I was just about to back this up^
    @[member="iphidamas"]
    yes people actually DO go to school for weed! In fact one of my friends who is a long time hippie actually decided to go into Santa Cruz college for studying botany for making the perfect cancer fighting hash oil (MD Anderson) once Texas is legalized.

    BOTANY is the key word here. If you have a background in it, your knowledge of plant growth/hormones l/life cycle etc (all the stuff I do not know since I don't go to school for it) will greatly influence where you're going for a job. so yes people do go to school for weed :)


    and DeFerrett if you're making your own try making some HIGH CBD concentrate. a strain such as cannatonic was once used by me for back pain management and it worked WONDERS
     
  18. #18 DeFerrett, Aug 30, 2014
    Oh also I am not making the kief I received it from someone it's girlscoutcookies an the high is very pain relieving which is why I wanted to turn it into hash oil


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  19. #19 Jimmy Carter, Aug 30, 2014
    lol thats what you're worried about? :laughing:
     
    @[member="DeFerrett"] a true winterization is a hydrocarbon extraction(like butane) dissolved into ethanol and chilled/filtered. not sure if its gonna help color, the resin is what it is.
     
    and you're correct about the solvent stripping the oils from the wax membrane of the trichome head.
     
  20. #20 DeFerrett, Aug 30, 2014
    😊 thank you very much, I appreciate that there are still nice people out there willing to help someone and offer real help and advice... I have never had that specific strain but it sound amazing I love good flower with high CBD content I usually take CBDs and CBNs orally via edible for a longer lasting relief and dab oil for flare ups. Oil like this GSC is particularly nice for its body effects I will have to look into that strain thank you


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