I always laugh when people spew Communist propoganda but are pro gun control. Its like... the second ammendment is there so the free state can protect itself from government. Communists claim to be anarchist, but want to give up their freedoms to a government. Hypocrites all Sent from my LG-E739 using Grasscity Forum mobile app
There's a great deal of chest pounding about how the Founding Fathers gave us gun rights. What a lot of people do not know is that the guns were often taken, by force, from people who were not in favor of the American Revolution. Since so many people were either apathetic, or supported the British Crown, there was widespread disarmament in the colonies, by the Patriots. http://allthingsliberty.com/2014/08/disarming-the-disaffected/ Take that to your next NRA meeting.
Ummmm yea. The whole point was to rebel against Britain. So taking britains guns mmakes sense. They weren't anti gun ownership. They were at war. Silly billy Sent from my LG-E739 using Grasscity Forum mobile app
Gun ownership rights depended on your opinion of the war and what they (the patriot side) were doing. . From the South Carolina Provincial Congress, March 13, 1776 \tReport on the StatePage v5:592 \nThe Congress having resumed the consideration of the Report to inquire into the state of the interior parts of the Colony, lately in commotion, and the most likely measures to preserve peace, and to prevent future commotions therein; and having gone through the said Report, Resolved, That a declaration of pardon and amnesty be published to the late Insurgents, with certain exceptions. That all persons who shall hereafter bear arms against, or shall be active in opposing, the measures of the Continental or Colony Congress, and upon due conviction thereof, before a majority of the Committee of the District or Parish where such persons reside, shall be disarmed, and, at the discretion of the said Committee, taken into custody; and, if necessary thereto, the said Committee shall call in the aid of the military as soon as possible, transmitting to the Congress or Council of Safety an account of such proceedings. That all reasonable indulgence ought to be given to the aforesaid late Insurgents, and, as far as is consistent with the publick safety, they be allowed to trade as usual, except for Arms and Ammunition. That if any person who has been disarmed, shall convince the Committee aforesaid that he sincerely desires to join in support of the American cause, his arms shall be restored to him, and, in every respect, he shall be put on the footing of an Associator, upon his taking the following oath: "I, A B, do, upon the Holy Evangelists, (or, according to the form of my profession,) freely, voluntarily, and without the least compulsion, evasion, or mental reservation, solemnly swear and declare, that I will, at all times, to the best of my power, aid and support the authority of Congress, and every authority derived from them. And also, that I will pay obedience to the Continental and Provincial Councils, according to the true meaning and spirit of the Association entered into by the Congress of this Colony, on the 4th of June last. So help me God." That if any person, having been disarmed, shall, without leave of the Committee aforesaid, be found in possession of Arms or Ammunition, or be convicted of having purchased either of those articles, he shall again be disarmed, and committed to close confinement by the said Committee; they transmitting, as soon as possible, to the Congress or Council of Safety, an account of such proceeding. That all Commissions of officers who have been in arms against the authority of Congress, or who have been, or shall be, convicted of having been active in opposing the authority of Congress, or having refused to act in support of that authority, be, and shall be null and void. That the respective Committees, and the supporters of the American cause, ought to discourage the use of any opprobrious language reflecting upon the late misbehaviour of the aforesaid Insurgents, who, behaving in a peaceable manner, ought to be treated with friendship and humanity, tenderness and moderation, as the Congress wishes to reclaim rather than to punish. Resolved, That the consideration of the Order of the Day be postponed. Resolved, That this Congress will, to-morrow, again resolve itself into a Committee of the Whole, to resume the consideration of the Report on a plan or form of Government. Adjourned to nine o' clock to-morrow. http://lincoln.lib.niu.edu/cgi-bin/amarch/getdoc.pl?/var/lib/philologic/databases/amarch/.13926
What's the deal people posting just a music video with a political title? This just proves you guys will argue about anything.
No gun rights are absolute sovereign rights. Even the British colonists should be allowed to have guns. But in combat obviously taking your opponents weapons is a wise descission. Sent from my LG-E739 using Grasscity Forum mobile app
The government confiscation of guns? No way! Garrison68 our Constitution recognized human rights to be true and protecting ones self and property above all others. Our founding fathers did not grant us these rights, they recognized and respected them. bat mobile
See this is where the social contract comes into play. It isnt tangible, it is the rational behind why people put their trust in their government. Reasons vary on the philosopher, but I just Locke's idea of fear of a violent death as the reasoning, but it is for economic reasons as well.
Lol okay badass go hang out in Syria and tell me that. in case you missed the sarcasm it was due to the fact that you alone cannot defend yourself.
no but people are trying to give up their guns and say freedom isn't nessesray Sent from my LG-E739 using Grasscity Forum mobile app