Hey Guys I Just Released A New Rap Song Tell Me What You Think

Discussion in 'The Musician in U' started by MotionPictureCeQuenCe, Aug 22, 2014.

  1. You need to drop the fact that there is a right way to rap, and a right way to make music... It's very ignorant.. Once again music is a form of expression, obviously you just don't understand why these rappers talks about what they live, so you hate on it. If you don't understand it, don't hate on it.. Just don't listen... People like it for a reason, and I'm predicting you're going to say that reason is their dumb... You really need to look in the mirror bro, who is really ignorant? 
     
    You feel like your views are fact, when they are all just opinion... There is no such thing as bad music... Just music you don't like or agree with, but there's always someone that does agree with it, and as long as those people live, which they will forever, then your opinion will not hurt the other side, or even take it down the slightest... So why not join the other side? Doesn't mean you have to abandon your side, just accept the fact that the other side isn't the same as yours..

     
  2. Glad this isn't the 90's.... As American's we are progressing to what freedom should be like, we're expanding... More cultures are being excepted.. and that's how it should be.
     
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    I completely agree.  I actually just listened to it a 2nd time.  I love the vibe and the piano keys. If I will say some constructive criticism.
     
    I really don't like the first 15 seconds, but maybe that's just me.  Who knows maybe it also adds to the mood and vibe somehow.
     
    Also the drum in the last 20 seconds or so of the song was really nice, I think it could have made a couple more appearances throughout the song.
     
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  4. #24 Flightspace, Sep 12, 2014
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    No i understand the way they live. Pampered with a silver spoon. I know this world better than you do. I've been to the players ball, i've met rich rick, worked for jazze pha, my buddy is good pals with wu tang and Doctor Dre's son. I know what rap is, and mainstream just isn't it. There is a definable standard for what talent is, and they do not have it. There is a definable standard for what vain, moronic bravado is, and they epitomize it.
     
    You can practically measure the talents of the true rappers against other literary geniuses, wu tang is more eloquent than shakespeare, and aesop rock is off the charts. But your mainstream pop whore asswipes are at the other end of the spectrum, getting dumber by the day, too.
    http://rappers.mdaniels.com.s3-website-us-east-1.amazonaws.com/
     
    You play this everyone is entitled to their free speech card to mitigate anyone elses free speech but your own. You know i never said there was a right way. But that doesn't mean there isn't a wrong way, and squandering your own expression and buying into a corrupt system of mass scale ignorance for a quick buck is absolutely the wrong way. Mainstream music isn't music, its advertising, and you yourself have admitted you're only in it for the money, so why pretend to make music? Why not just walk around telling people you make cash and do drugs and you're the hardest motherfucker on the planet? Because people will laugh in your fucking face. You're not expressing anything real, anything genuine, anything you'd even have the balls to say out of a rap song. You're a fraud, a hypocrite, and thats all you'll ever be until you decide to grow a pair, be your own man and stop letting arrogant idiots tell you what to do just because they drive a benz.
     
    Heres a song where in 10 minutes i rap more real shit than you will in your entire life:
    https://soundcloud.com/neoroyal/all-i-want/s-KoxGP
    And i'm not even a rapper.
     
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    I wish the beat dropped in with just a tad more kick and bass. Keep that tempo up a little bit, not even that much tbh. The beat is great it just feels like it's being held back. 
     
  6. "tell me what you think"
    doesn't sound like you actually means this lol
     
  7. Oh no, it's not just you, I hate it too LOL... Well not hate it but I made it just to throw people off, just to give people that feel of standing naked in a snow storm for 15 seconds, and the when it drops it feels like you just jumped into a warm Jacuzzi, and it's supposed to be refreshing from the intro..
     
    If you feel me?
     
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  8. Yea man I know :( 
    I actually had EQ'd it waaay better than what you hear, but my PC deleted all of the changes because I didn't have enough space.. :( Hopefully it'll sound much better on my EP when it's done! :D

    Why do you say that?
     
  9. No not at all, there is not definable standard of what talent is.. Talent is what you make of it... Like I said you have to realize that your trying to force your opinion into fact, when it's not.. There's no such thing as a wrong way of making music.
     
    Not to mention I think you overlook what "music" is... You feel like "music" is all lyrics... no no no... If it was all lyrics, all albums would be acapella, the radio would be dead, and all musicians would just stick to open mics, and spoken word.
    Music has more components, production, EQing, mixing, effects, all of these other things that makes it unique... 
     
    If there is no right way, then there certainly is no wrong way..
     
  10. By outsider looking in are you referring to the popular kids? Lol this song actually isn't about peer pressure, or wanting to be popular. Read up on my rg where I explain the lyrics, and I'll explain it more: http://rap.genius.com/Cequence-twisted-youth-fitting-in-lyrics
     
    Here's something I wrote:
     
    "Unfortunately this song isn't about peer pressure lol, well it kinda is, and it kinda isn't. It's mainly about the fear of the future, and failure. After being told they won't make it without a plan, and taking life seriously, a lot of people just say forget all of it, and decide to waste their life doing popular things (Partying, and wasting time, not getting jobs, or chasing not dreams etc.)"
     
    It's basically about my drive to be successful, and a fear of the future.
     
    But thanks!
     
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  11. No one who does the EQing, mixing, effects, ever gets credit. Its lil wayne on the cover of the albums, not the guy who autotunes him. Its someone else who writes his lyrics, not him. It'd be one thing if they credited the team, at all, or if they got an equal share of the pay, but they don't. He's got someone to master, someone to retime, and melodyne, and whatever the fuck else they need to do to make it production ready, but PRODUCTION ISN'T MUSIC. Production facilitates the commercialization of music. In the olden days they used to stay out of it, find the music people like, sign them on and give them the tools and the reins, but its different now, they want an image, they want a persona, not a musician. They're not selling music as a product, they're selling a product as music. They pander and they pander and they pander until soon it just infects everything they do, and theres no longer any art left, its just pandering disguised as art. And they pull the hater card, and they pull the every form of expression is valid card, and they pull whatever card they need to to put up the front, that what they're doing is anything more than what it is. Because no one just sells you anything any more, they plaster tits and drugs and fancy promises and ego stroking all over it until they themselves lose sight of what it is they're even selling. Washing machine? Throw some tits in it, doesn't matter if the damn thing works. Burgers? Throw some tits in it. Music? Oh, just throw some tits in it, i'm sure we can get by without the music part.
     
    I had to deal with customer service the other day for my shoddy internet connection. they had me waiting on hold for 30 minutes, and finally sent me to a barely literate indian dude whos brightest idea was to unplug and plug in my router, which i had already tried. Meanwhile i had to listen to these glowering endorsements from a football coach they clearly paid off, buying absolutely none of it. Rather than spending millions of actually improving their customer service, they spent it on getting some recognizable figure to talk them up, like the idea of actually having better service is an actual replacement for actual service. Thats exactly whats happened in mainstream music. The marketing ALWAYS precedes the expression, if there even is any. They spend so much effort on radio plays, trying to convince people these songs are being requested, when actually its just underhanded payola to all the radio stations. They're all owned, bought, bribed, paid off. And theres always dumb materialistic guys like yourself, so caught up in thinking it sells that you listen to it because it sells, you try to figure out their secret, you start saying what they say, trying to be like them. When that IS the secret, you trying to figure it out is what sells. You trying to figure out why justin beiber has a million views when he sucks so much is why he has those million views. The first million he bought. The rest pays for itself. 
     
  12. I don't know if you just are uneducated in music, or are just trolling? Well let me educate you.... For one the producers get a heavy percentage of the money a song makes, and it also is illegal to not include the producers, or the people who mix it in the credits of an album. Yes that includes the guy who autotunes him, and even where they did it.
     
    Trust me on this, coming from a musician, I have to know this stuff, I guess since you're just an angry fan you don't know any of this.
     
  13. Are you serious are you just trolling me XD? Come on bro, I'm new to this site, and you aren't making your people look good. If production isn't music, explain DJ Premiere, Skrillex, Flume, Flying Lotus, etc. You just stuck a middle finger in the faces of all of us producers. 
    I think you should just stop listening to music, and go to open mics, and listen to spoken word for the rest of your life.
     
    Production IS music, it completes the music, if you want to get old school, you do realize Hip-Hop started with just dj's, and producers? Just to make people dance, no lyrics, none of what you want?
     
  14. Pretty good man!
    Keep at it

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  15. #35 Flightspace, Sep 13, 2014
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    its so fucking ignorant to call someone uneducated just because they disagree with you. I've been an electronic music artist for 4 years now. I've been playing guitar since i was 14, and drums before that. My work as a producer is better than yours, but i'm not even going to debate whether i'm a better musician-- irregardless they're two completely different things. There are plenty of people who JUST DJ, thats not music, thats production, there are people who just master, thats not music, thats production. One is a technical skill often used to enhance art, and the other is the actual art itself, you CAN have one without the other. They just call them producers when its electronic because they do both, and featurettes are common enough that they the distinction. I still consider those kinds of producers musicians, even if they make beats for people who are definitely not musicians. I mean do you know what the difference between T pain and the situation is? Autotune. Hell for a dollar you can buy an app that basically makes you as good of a rapper as him. Do you know what the difference between a film and a commercial is? They both have production, but only one is art. Sure, they're both made by artists, but one is a medium of expression and one is a medium of commercialism. Do you think people would make commercials if there wasn't a profit in it? Hell no. But people would make films whether theres someone to buy it or not. I'd make this music even if there was no one to listen, and thats why its actually music. You've heard my music, i posted it earlier. The song is all i want from the world, and a lot of it applies to people like you. You don't know this but i pity you. I really do feel bad for you, and everyone in your life you will bring down. This kind of influence in your life, especially coming out of your own mouth has terrible terrible consequences. I've seen my friends go down this path and it starts with a taste of the good life, kicking it in hollywood with celebrities, doing cocaine with some dude who i think was in porn, smoking it up with snoop and his producers... I had some of the best weeks of my life. But i stayed away from that hard shit, those drugs, the ego, i stayed as humble as i could be because i knew this braggadocio shit was infectious. I watch my friends go from dedicated musicians, tough on the grind, rapping about the struggle and their dreams, to front wearing shit talking racist envy spewing assholes. My best friend Nino singlehandedly ruined our collective chances at success, deluding himself into believing he was some of big shot, the rest of them were just damn irresponsible and made bad a reputation for themselves. all of their raps changed to this fakeass shit i knew for certain was bullshit cause i knew them personally.  They were all straight up extorting, eager to put their hands in the pockets of whoever they could, even if it wasn't invited. 50,000$ blown in one weekend. A production house that could've been, wasted, because the money we actually got was spent on drugs. Hell i think one of em got 100k for a grow project that they failed at, smoked it all and pissed off their investor. They weren't even the friends i knew anymore, and it started with Nino and spread out like a fucking virus. His cockiness and ignorance was contagious. A few of em would get jealous every time we were out on the town and swing by drunk and make an ass out of themselves. By the end they were all bringing drama and endless spontaneous and uninvited parties around my place, homeless and sleeping on my couch talking delusionally about owning a penthouse in a couple weeks. I kicked my best friend to the curb because he'd put me through an ordeal of racist arrogant and melodramatic bullshit, became a total prick was guilt tripping me into buying him a hamburger when he owed me 300$ in rent. Its not healthy, man, all this superficiality. We tasted the good life. Not everyone even gets that chance. Not everyone even has an event like that in their life to their giant egos, and i think thats even worse.
     
    I suggest you take a look at what you accuse people of, especially being uneducated. i basically minored in musical production. I lived the reality you want to live for a short period and i know what it is better than you. I also know the tragic consequences of the choices you're making. If you ever make it, which in all likelihood, you never will, you are in for a very serious fall from grace. And if you ever do realize how much of a fraud you are, make it a fraud you've BEEN, and put that shit in your past, because i'm serious man. Right now you're a black hole in this world. But its not too late to rap about something you believe in, and i've heard that shit in your music. Cluttered in bullshit but its there. Drop the act and be real. Thats all i'm saying. Or you'll lose that piece of yourself thats still you.
     
  16. @[member="Flightspace"]
    "its so fucking ignorant to call someone uneducated just because they disagree with you. I've been an electronic music artist for 4 years now. I've been playing guitar since i was 14, and drums before that. My work as a producer is better than yours,"
     
    But the point is, how much have you made from it? Lol I'm not calling you uneducated because you disagree, I'm calling you uneducated because you are, this is factual the producers get a huge cut of the songs, and legally have to be included in the credits... 
     
  17. You basically take a huge L for minoring in music production, and still saying producing is not music, mainly meaning they're useless, implying that you're useless.. Also you take a huge L for writing those books of replies, if you knew you were right, and what you are trying to say, you would get straight to the point, and not have to write essays, of your opinion, nothing factual.. 
     
  18. #38 MotionPictureCeQuenCe, Sep 13, 2014
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    @[member="Flightspace"]
    And also I'm pretty sure I know what's best for me given that I've obviously made more money off of my music than you. Because I know how to not get cheated, and how to get my cut out of everything. 
     
    Don't be fooled because I'm younger than you, I swear older people think just because they've lived longer, that they know more, and they're better than ever young person. 
     
  19. do some good sampling and add some more bass. im also big on rappers voices. you have to be super strong with it. it needs to flow better, when your rapping it, it sounds like your reading it off the paper or computer you wrote it on. maybe some minor ad-libs
     
    but if your a beginner its good production. 
     
    this is bishop nehru, i like his stuff and hes pretty fucking young. a lot of sampling and mixing up the beat instead of keeping it repetitive. 
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2i5Ue87nei8
     
  20. ...
     
    Did you know Nino Brown?
     
     
    I respect the song.
     

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