Father Diagnosed With Cancer

Someone else will have to discuss whether CO2 extracted oil can treat cancer. I do know that during treatment, opiates must be reduced because they destroy the immune system, which is obviously essential to healing. The oil does reduce withdrawal symptoms and the need for pain killers. Also, there is a guy who ships fine quality RSO for $700 per 30 grams (I have no connection to him other than as a customer). He's not hard to find on hempoilhope.com.
 
Good luck and remember that there are lots of success stories from people walking around years after their doctors said they had only months or weeks to live!

 

I have a lot to learn about all this myself, so take with a grain of salt.


It is my understanding that oil is psychoactive and therefore you get stoned from it. Because of this you can't get really high levels of cannabinoids. Maybe look into using the raw plant material. Since it is not dry yet, it is not active and you don't get stoned so you can consume high amounts.

Here is a video that starts to touch on all of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xPmR8j4plw

Also, I don't know where you are located but outdoor crops will be getting ready to harvest in the next 4-8 weeks. This might provide an opportunity to get lots of fresh trim and maybe even smaller buds for a reasonable price. I think if it were me I would try to use both the fresh and the RSO. I would try to find growers and get as much fresh material as possible. I would then blend the material with enough water to make a thick paste and then freeze as much as I can in one cup containers that can be defrosted later. I would then pack this in ice in a cooler and drive to my father. I would think that in states that have legal medicine that there are health groups that could get you in contact with the right people.

I'm sure it wouldn't be cheap as you might need to travel to Colorado, Washington, Oregon, etc, take off work, and buy some of this cheaper trim by product. But I'm sure it would be much cheaper than what a hospital would charge for a couple days of treatment.

Just what I would be looking into personally. Maybe it can give you some ideas. Good luck to your family and smoke and prayers for your father!

 

Opiates aren't evil if he is in pain. If he is hurting that is what they are for. But if he doesn't need them or the cannabis can provide pain relief then don't take them. The longer he is on them the harder it will be to stop. But if it's just a couple weeks our even months it won't be that hard, just a bit uncomfortable. But if they make his quality of life better, then take them. I do have a lot of experience with opiates.

As far as the cannabis, the reason to use raw, wet plant material is that it doesn't get you stoned so you can get a lot more at once. If it's dry and gets you stoned there is only so much you can take and it will probably make him quite sleepy. Some isn't bad to get some narcotic effect and not rely on the opiates. At least this is my understanding of it. Hopefully someone that has experience with this particular application will chime in.

As far as the strain, I would think a strain that is high in CBD and not just THC would be best. You can get an idea of this by checking out strain information on a seedbank website such as attitude or herbies. They should give a percentage level of both for most strains. This will let you pick something out or if you have access to multiple strains you can pick the one that is more balanced. Some of the guys in the growing section probably know some of these strains off the top of their head.

Again, good luck.

 

Research research research... You probably already are but the more you know the better.

I'd start collecting as much money as you can and start talking to your family. Show them articles of Rick Simpsons oil curing cancer. Because if you convince them they will pitch in money for sure.

Again research and research. No time to mess around with stuff like this... Research!!! Did I say research enough? One more time. Research. I wish I had more info I could give you but the internet has all you need.




"I'm to drunk, to taste this chicken" -Talladega nights

 

You can use the oil in different ways for different effects. For attacking liver cancer, I believe you want to make sure that he actually eats it, that is, start small and work up daily and that he actually swallows it. You want to keep a constant stream of THC to his liver...he may feel affected, but he won't feel stoned, likely. For therapeutic uses, that's when you would smoke or, what I would do, is take some of the oil and mix it with an oil or other fat, or an alcohol, and have him hold it under his tongue. You're making a tincture, of sorts. Since it's already activated (CO2 becomes activated during the process, from my understanding), you just need to make it bioavailable. 
 
Treating cancer, and treating the symptoms are different. But, to treat the cancer, you want to apply THC as often to the source. The liver being fatty, it's an excellent receiver for THC that's been ingested. Some cancers are near impossible to reach with cannabis right now  (like bladder cancers) I would even make a nice topical application to apply over his liver area daily. 

 

I wish nothing but the best for you and your family. You'll want the strongest oil if you're trying to treat cancer. so if you have some ~50% THC oil, thats way too weak so he'll have to end up taking more meds to get what he needs. I would find someone who can produce a strong oil or just keep doing what you're doing. As long as he's ingesting as much as he can handle, he should have a fighting chance. YOu really do need to be taking as much as you can, so when you start buildig up a tolderance to it, increase dosage.
 
Where are you located BTW?

 

Sending healing vibes out!   Also, if you can get some CBD rich oil too, try that. The studies Ive seen for bladder cancers use CBD. Not that THC won't both help, but it can def increase your chances of success, and maybe help mitigate any uneasiness as the dosage increases. 
 
I believe most people take up to a gram a day, near the end? Just try to keep it consistent as possible! On some of the topical uses, it's about constant application. 

 

You'll make the oil more bioavailable for ingestion if you use a little coconut oil and caps. You can start out with lower dosage ones in order to build up his tolerance. Make a batch of 20 caps with 1g of your RSO. That will give you 50mg caps and have him take 4 per day, like a pain pill. That will be a 5 day supply. With the next gram, make 10 caps of 100mg per day and take 3 per day. The next gram you can either make them stronger or take more of them. 
 
You want to get him up to a gram per day. That first dose will be 200 mg/day, the second is 300/day, etc. With this schedule you can work him up quickly but safely. If he gets too messed up for comfort, you can easily back him off a dose until he adjusts
 
A lot of people prefer the coconut oil caps for dosing because straight RSO isn't easily absorbed by the body due to it's concentration, often passing through the body before it has a chance to fully metabolize. The coconut oil makes it bioavailable and will get it directly to his liver. You would just calculate how much the cap holds and how much you'll need to fill 10 or 20 of them. As an example, to get 100mg "00" size caps you would dissolve 1g of RSO into 10ml of warm coconut oil. Each "00" cap holds approx 1ml. You can do the same math for whatever strength or size you want.
 
He should continue to take his pain meds until he starts feeling he can cut back. I had gotten off all my pain and sleep meds but it took a while. You don't want him to stop suddenly due to the withdrawal symptoms but he'll be able to wean himself easily before long, especially if the cannabis starts working. My pain was only from major back surgery and not stage 4 cancer but he should be able to at least cut back. 
 
G-13 is an excellent choice. 

 

I'm a little pressed for time today, but here's my advice- get him on Omega 3! It is necessary for the health of his endocannabinoid system. This study deals with just the mental effects, but a lack of Omega 3 does the same thing in the body- the receptors don't get hooked up to their G i/o effector protein.  (n-3 is another name for Omega 3)
 
Nutritional omega-3 deficiency abolishes endocannabinoid-mediated neuronal functions.    (abst – 2011)           http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21278728
 
"In n-3-deficient mice, presynaptic cannabinoid CB(1) receptors (CB(1)Rs) normally responding to endocannabinoids were uncoupled from their effector G(i/o) proteins."
 
This leaves you with "dud' receptors that can't be activated to fight cancer! Men seem to do better on fish oil than flax seed oil, so get him fish oil or Krill oil.
 
Diluting the RSO oil is a good idea. It is all too easy to take just a tad too much RSO and have a bad experience! Warm the RSO with some flax seed oil,hemp seed oil, olive oil or coconut oil and put it in capsules. You can get consistent doses that way!
 
Leafly has a strain selector that may be helpful, but G-13 is a good strain. "Lemony" strains have limonene in them which is a cancer-fighter in it's own right. For this reason I recommend "lemony" strains when making RSO for cancers.  Limonene isn't hard to find online and can be absorbed through the skin. Most of the studies on it are on breast or colon cancers.
 
Cannabis Strain Explorer     (web page - 2012)      http://www.leafly.com/explore
 
Since your parents are medical professionals, show them this, the first RSO case study at PubMed. It may help convince them.
 
Cannabis extract treatment for terminal acute lymphoblastic leukemia with a Philadelphia chromosome mutation              (full – 2013)         http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3901602/
 
A quote from the case study- "Cannabinoid resin extract is used as an effective treatment for ALL with a positive Philadelphia chromosome mutation and indications of dose-dependent disease control. The clinical observation in this study revealed a rapid dose-dependent correlation."
 
Do you know if your father's cancer has the ID-1 gene like "triple negative" breast cancer does? These cancers are better fought with CBD, than THC!
 
Cannabidiol as a novel inhibitor of Id-1 gene expression in aggressive breast cancer cells.     (full - 2007)      http://mct.aacrjournals.org
/content/6/11/2921.long    
 
CBD also prevents angeogenesis- the formation of new "feeder" blood vessels that help tumors grow so dang fast! 
 
Cannabidiol inhibits angiogenesis by multiple mechanisms.
(full – 2012)          http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3504989/
  
Also this just came out- (FYI -WIN55 212 and anandamide work in the same way as THC. What they do, THC does. Lysis is the death /destruction of a cell. )
 
Cannabinoids Increase Lung Cancer Cell Lysis By Lymphokine-Activated  Killer Cells Via Upregulation of ICAM-1    (abst – 2014)           http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25069049
 
Basically, the abstract says that THC, WIN 55 212 and your body's own Anandamide (a THC-like compound you make naturally) all cause cancer cells to become “sticky”, so your Killer Cells can grab the cancer cells more easily and destroy them!  Interestingly, THC, WIN and Anandamide “ignore” healthy lung cells, so your Killer Cells just go after the “sticky” cancer cells!
 
 
In fact hon, you should check out the bottom of my sig and just send me an email.  I'll send you my free collection of medical studies. There is even a section on liver cancer!   You know your parents, and what they will respond, to better than I do! 
 
 
Hope to hear from you soon!
 
 
 
Granny

 

Aside from what psychedelic Sam and storm and gem said,

Look into dandelion root tea , to be drunken three to four times a day. Search google it will pull up the news story. Old man with terminal leukemia was sent home to die after unsuccessful conventional therapy. He got a tip to try dandelion root tea, daily as mentioned above. Several months later after not dying as expected he went back to hospital and the cancer had been eliminated.

He suggested this to others and it treated theirs too. A grant was sent for a research team to isolate the most relevant cancer fighting constituent, to then synthesize a pharmaceutical drug for cancer treatment. They are working on this now.

So in the meantime give it a try. The reason it helps so well with leukemia theoretically is due to its benefit to the liver, lymphatic system and bone marrow. Anti cancer effects from deep center inside, working outwards. That could definitely apply to your dads situation.

Also with the limonene, lemongrass soup could be a great way to get it into the body. Google organic recipes for it, made with fresh bone stock preferably from pastured chickens. Quality proteins, healthy fats, organic minerals, collagen etc plus limonene, garlic and onions: these are all extremely beneficial to a body battling cancer.

Part of the gig with RSO is to stay THC heavy due to its anti cancer effects, working up to g a day and it very importantly induces sleep. Very potent pain relief, THC can be Moreso than opiates even. And this increases the ability to rest. That is critically important. Wake up, happy thoughts and medicate, fresh veggie smoothie, sleep, wake up for lemongrass bone soup and walk around, back to sleep, dandelion tea and medicate, back to sleep. That's what the body needs to focus on battling something like cancer.

 

I read about a guy that was using three grams a day and thought that was supposed to be the amount!  he was high as you can get and it knocked out the problem he had lickity split and then some. if someone can handle it.....