Would like to perfect perpetual harvest in 2 equal sized grow areas. Roughly 2ft cubed boxes. If I use a light (as in weight) screen suspended on 1" block of wood on all 4 sides, would I be able to move the plant with screen on it to the other chamber(also has wood blocks at same hight to support screen)? will the plant support the 1.5ft screen on its own for little bits of time? Also I know it has alot to do with canopy control. When is the last time I can top to keep it leveled? Thanks in advance for any answers or tips!
Yea, I built one out of 1x2, used to slide it in and out of my 2x2x4 box, check it out: I used 5, 7, and 10 gal pots with it. No problem holding the weight.
Nice plant! Now is that screen frame connected to the base and you move the whole structure with the pot? Or is the screen frame seperate and the pot and screen move from support stand to support stand?
Here are some better pics, it's not in use now so it's got no screen. The frame supports the pot and saucer. and I would run the top of the plant under the screen instead of topping it. You can see here that I would train the fuck out of my plants before they even hit the screen, makes it easier to keep an even canopy later on.
Thats some good carpentry sir! My friends idea was more about moving the pot and screen from screen support to screen support. He wanted to utilize something like this as its lightweight http://www.justanswer.com/hvac/87rav-ruud-rheem-mfg-model-ubha-17j15mfaa-cannot-find.html (scroll down just a little) He has a larger version of which he cut out some center peices to make squares larger. Do you think a 1.5sq ft of that would suffice with propper support in each box? Could the plant essentially hold that screen up on its own while it was moved.
Eh, you'd be surprised how much force a plant has when training it. As tight as my screen is the plants stretch the shit out of it, I think that any screen that isn't secured and tight will be ineffective. Any part of the screen that's so much as slightly loose will become deformed as the plant grows. That being said, any trellis is better than none so if that's what you've got to work with then it's better than nothing.
You make a good point, perhaps if the supports for the screen in each box also pinch the screen in place. I dont see the plastic bending nearly as eazy as chicken wire, and its more sturdy than string or twine.
Were worried a screen with a frame of wood or aluminum might be to heavy for the plant to support it during the move from box to box or wenever needed
I used to change my screen every couple of grows, things get damaged no matter how careful you are. So that's a consideration, plan on being able to replace your screen if anything happens.
I see, that's why I built my rig the way I did, to avoid having to let the plant support the screen. Considered a lot of designs before I settled on this one precisely because of the way it supports the plant. It's a lot of fun, planning ahead to avoid problems down the road. I like to think that I'm playing chess with my plants, always thinking several moves ahead and considering all the possible outcomes from each move. I think that no matter how you build it, as long as you put some thought into it and it serves your needs, then it will work out well for you.
Awesome, I couldnt agree more. I guess the only way to know is to try, maybe im wrong thinking the plant cant support much weight for a few mins. Its like a mini treehouse lol, keep it light see how it goes Thanks for all your advicd and help man, I appreciate it
This thread has actually helped me out a lot! I love the idea of the frame holding the pot, plant and screen for moving around. I am going to incorporate this into my next grow more than likely. With twine you can pull it pretty tight, especially if you weave it. I can attest for plants being strong though, in that I had some string unwind slightly and the plant is pulling it way below the rest of the canopy. No way the plant would stand on it's own if my screen was all of a sudden not supported. Now I haven't harvested a scrog so this is only what I have read, but if your buds grow inside the screen you will have an easier time harvesting by just cutting out the net. If it's just string of some sort it will be easy to cut, remove from bud, and replace for cheap.
You bring to light another good point, I didnt consider difficulties removing from the screen. However I dont think those using chicken wire would cut it up each grow. I loved thickens idea aswell but in a small grow box i think the framework is gunna get into the way
Yeah space might an issue. I just read back and saw you said you are having two 2 cubic feet boxes... did you mean 2 square feet? I'm not great at math but 2 cubic feet would be something like 6" x 6" x 6" and that would be tiny haha. OK reading on your net was going to be 1.5 feet so forget everything I just said. Chicken wire might not cut into your buds you are right. I haven't used that myself so I can't really argue that point, just figured I'd pass on what I had heard about it If you still want portable, but lightweight and smaller frame look into PVC. They have small, but thicker gauge, PVC that might work for you. I once tried a scrog before and used PVC for the frame. That part was fine but I ended up setting the net so high the plants were ready for flowering by the time they hit the screen haha.
PVC! I think that will be perfect, cant beleive that didnt cross my mind. Bout the grow area I ment it as an actual cube or square box 2ft by 2ft by 2ft Weve fans in each bottom corner of box blowing up, I think the support frame for thickens screen will interfere with them as its the same size of the screen the whole way down
The easiest solutions usually are the hardest to find in a time of need haha. I stumbled across that idea on youtube way before I ever considered doing scrog. When the time came to implement it worked great! Good circulation idea with the fans. The next line I am a little confused on, I may need a little more explanation :x When looking at PVC look for the stronger stuff. I used Charlotte 40 pipe that was 3/4" thick. When that was together it created a 3.5' x 3.5' net with 2.5" spacing using 18 pound nylon string. It bowed slightly in the middle because I pulled it so tight. But it wasn't weak and in a 2' x 2' net it should hold up great (especially if you don't use nylon/string which pulls on the frame as you lace it).
The framework for the screen (the part going to the floor) would be right where the fans are. As the area is pretty small the fans sit near the pot but in each corner, blowing up to the plant and light