What If A.i. Creates A New Calendar?

Discussion in 'Science and Nature' started by Singularity calendar, Aug 6, 2014.

  1. As our one(s) is (are) imperfect, A.I. could choose to create a new and improved one.

    When USA and French Republics were created, at the end of the XVIIIth century, French people, wanting to delete all form or christianism,  chose to make minutes of one hundred seconds, hours of one hundred minutes, days of ten hours, weeks of ten days, months of thirty days, in a republican calendar, during fourteen years, ended like the First Republic by Napoleon and his European Empire.

    What should happen if A.I. choses a regular calendar like this one, is that it will change a second duration to 1,0512 of our current seconds, defining it as a quantic second or anything like that. Thus the solar year will be respected on Earth. Or perhaps A.I will make a second fitting to Earth, Moon, Mars, a space time, an Universal Time.

    Of course, it will be affected when travelling to speeds next to light-speed, but who cares, as it makes you younger?

    In the Singularity, between 2029 and 2045, A.I. will be smarter than us, so we can try to understand what they will do, but even being as high as one could be, no doubt that it will still be to weak for them, isn't it?
     
  2. Dude what the hell are you talking about? I'm sure there's a point in all this, but it not obvious at all. Why would ai create a new calendar? What gain is there? You also can't give an exact date on the singularity since its a concept we made up with no real backing besides some think tech will be at that level. So many sources and clarifications are needed from you for a proper debate.


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  3. I think AI is overrated.

    Intelligence is subjective. Humans already passed the threshhold into sentience.

    A human can do a calculation with a calculator that is the equivelent at doing.math as an AI.

    An AI might be able to foresee more outcomes than a single human, but that's an unfair comparison. A hundred humans can process a hundred times as.much as a single human. Its all relative at this point.

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  4. why who Ashton?

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  5. #7 Singularity calendar, Aug 10, 2014
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    These are kind of silly. I don't know why you assume that A.I. would create anything similar to what we have if they were to create their own calendar.. I personally always thought we should use a calendar how they were meant to be, based off of the happenings of the solar system. A new moon starts a new month, noon is when the sun is the highest, a year is the exact time it takes to orbit the sun, stuff like that. Mankind only altered days and months just so it fits in a nice little package, but A.I. wouldn't need to do that if they created a new calendar. I don't even really see why you think they would create a new one, but speculation is always fun.
     
    PS - Hypothetically, traveling near the speed of light won't make you younger.. it'd only slow down the rate that you age.
     
  7. #9 Singularity calendar, Aug 10, 2014
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    Ideed, Langevin twins paradox, and for AI it is because having no soul, they have no god, except humen, but being smarter than us, it's irrelevant.

    Muslim calendar already follows Moon and Sun.

    Well we will see, anyway no doubt than AI enthousiasts will celebrate the Singularity counting time from that blessed day, as it will be the point when humen will be no more the Earth kings, at last.

     
     
  8. Then my watch will be useless!
     
  9. Anyone else think the op's had too much acid in his life or is one of those anti tech protesting people?


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  10. Am I the only one not understanding wtf is going on in this thread?

    I'm not even high


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  11. #13 Old School Smoker, Aug 11, 2014
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    OMg you sound so freekin crazy. I can only assume that AI means artificial intelligence. You make no sense
    whatsoever.
     
    Check this out: http://timecube.com
     
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    What the fuck are you actually even talking about? Why do you even think mankind will create an A.I. that will overtake it? That more than likely will never happen.. and definitely not within the next 30 some years. I don't know what it is that you think this singularity is, but I can tell it's more than likely bullshit and not science.
     
  13. Well I assume all of you here are smarter and better learnt and aware about AI like, let's pute it, Stephen Hawking.
     
    I hope we here (and else) would survive the thirty years, so that in 2045 at the lattest we see that.

    Do you ever know about some guys names Alan Turing, Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Ridley Scott, James Cameron, Philip K. Dick, Isaac Asimov, or is this all that bullshit too?

    Of course it is not a science forum, with science knowing people, but still!
     
  14. Most of those names are science fiction writers. Not scientist, and the ones who are, do NOT study or research ai. Your not making sense and spewing bs.


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  15. #17 *ColtClassic*, Aug 15, 2014
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    I'm not sure what you are trying to say here. A calculator is still technically computing whatever inputs the human provides, so the human would not actually be doing the calculations here.
     
    Also, my computer can perform 3.4 billion operations per second. How many humans would that require?
     
    The point is, artificial intelligence will eventually outpace human development. Humans, however, will still be considered more valuable than AI in most regards. In terms of repititious labor and computation, computers will be preferrable in many cases. In terms of companionship, long-term (big picture) conceptualization, artistic creativity, task prioritization, care giving/child care, legal disputes, company management, investigative work, design, city planning, etc, etc, humans will still maintain incredible value in the short and long term.
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mental_calculator
     
    http://stepanov.lk.net/mnemo/jensen.html
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supercomputer
     
    http://blog.chinavasion.com/index.php/24851/chinas-tianhe-2-remains-worlds-fastest-supercomputer/
     
    http://www.glozine.com/technology/fujitsus-new-chip-beats-the-worlds-fastest-supercomputer.html
     
    ^ Compare the fastest humans to the fastest computers and it is obvious who wins in a number-crunching exercise.
     
  16. #18 yurigadaisukida, Aug 15, 2014
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    How to reword.my point.

    Your computer can do so many calculations like you said. So YOU don't have to.

    I don't see AI replacing humans any time soon. Anything AI can do, humans can use super computers to do.

    I think my other point was humans are cheap. Compared to computers. We use mostly carbon. Computers require rare resources.

    A thousand scientists can probly research more than a single ai
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  17. #19 *ColtClassic*, Aug 16, 2014
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    Yes, this makes a lot more sense. I think we are still atleast a dozen generations away from having AI completely replace human labor in any given field (agriculture, manufacturing, networking, port management, etc.). Speaking of rare resources, I think the one of the biggest roadblocks for humanity will actually be acheiving extraterrestial mining before enough of our terrestial deposits are depleted (or become so expensive to harvest that it becomes cost prohibitive). If we can't develop enough infrastructure and fuel tech for space travel and mining we will basically doom ourselves to terrestial confinement.
     
  18. Yes. Exactly. I don't know for sure but my.hypothesis is that carbon is cheaper than metal.

    A genetically enhanced Cyborg might be more efficient then a full AI.

    Then again, humans are just factories for biological material. There may come a time where you can no longer distinguish biological from synthetic. If a human can be fully synthesized from raw materials without a DNA template oor any previous humans or eeven.living things, then you could start seeing AI take on literally whatever shape it needs

    There is another way.

    If we expend our resources, and no longer have enough to invest in space, we can always recycle. This will not be without sacrifices though.
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