Big Brother Keeping Us Safe Mmj In Florida

Discussion in 'Marijuana Legalization' started by mynameisEarrrl, Aug 1, 2014.

  1. MMJ will be a issue on Florida's November ballot. SB-1030 "compassionate care act", is the bill the Fla. senate has passed. SB-1030 directs the Department of Health to establish OCU. The OCU would be responsible for adopting rules necessary to implement the law,(MMJ), if passed. The OCU has, among other responsibilities, the responsibility for creating a online use registry for patients and physicians accessible to LAW ENFORCEMENT!(apparently under the guise of verifying patient status!). There are other issues that the legislature is trying to "sneak" thru also. Most of these measures would be detrimental to patients, would be entrepreneurs and local communities! All these bills and addendums will automatically become effective if amendment 2,(MMJ), is passed in November! Educate yourselves on the issues and vote "NO" on amendment 2 until the law and all the amendments are modified so that the law serves the people who vote it in and not just the financial and political agendas of the politicians, corporations and their cronies! All they see is money and they will do whatever it takes to insure they get a piece of the pie and that can be used as leverage to get what We, the People, want! Not to mention helping to create a law that not only transcends doctor/patient privilege, but also basic civil liberties and constitutional rights! Or, you could vote yes and watch as you recreate history and the storm troopers invade their new version of Poland! Peace!
     

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  2. Man you sound like a evil Prohibitionist for actually being smart and reading on what you are voting on. Be prepared to be bombarded by trolls
     
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    You're confused.
     
    SB 1030 is the Charlotte's web bill passed with knee jerk fashion by Florida's republican lead legislature. Do I need to explain further?
     
    Amendment 2 is completely separte from SB 1030. Amendment 2 is all about doctor/patient privilege. That's the only good thing about it. If we pass amendment 2, it runs seperately from SB 1030, essentially rendering it obsolete, as Amendment 2 has no restrictions on type of cannabis strain or potency. So anything from ditch weed to God Bud is good under amendment 2.
     
    It's not the best MMJ bill out there, but it certainly ain't the worst. And with approval numbers in the 88% range for this amendment, we're in good, shape for a pass
     
  4. you need to look further into the responsibilities the OCU is charged with. The Compassionate Care Act will apply to all MMJ patients and their caregivers. I belong to a coalition that is working to help my city and county implement plans and procedures to comply with the law if it passes, and to insure reasonable and safe access. We just left Tallahassee yesterday after speaking at Senate hearings pertaining to this very subject. Before the law has even passed, it is clear that obviously there is no clear understanding of the issues involved. Until there is clarification, I will stick to what I said and urge all to vote no until the odds are fair and the laws passed are for the general good and welfare of all. Peace!
     
  5. [quote name="mynameisEarrrl" post="20386289" timestamp="1406946430"]you need to look further into the responsibilities the OCU is charged with. The Compassionate Care Act will apply to all MMJ patients and their caregivers. I belong to a coalition that is working to help my city and county implement plans and procedures to comply with the law if it passes, and to insure reasonable and safe access. We just left Tallahassee yesterday after speaking at Senate hearings pertaining to this very subject. Before the law has even passed, it is clear that obviously there is no clear understanding of the issues involved. Until there is clarification, I will stick to what I said and urge all to vote no until the odds are fair and the laws passed are for the general good and welfare of all.

    Your beating a dead horse that is falling on stoned ears. Sorry brother. Been preaching this for years and they want nothing to do with it. You are now considered a Prohibitionist for thinking the way you do
     
  6. I'll def be there to vote "YES" on amendment 2, the other 5 members of my family will be there as well...we are all registered Florida voters...
     
    I'm more afraid of things staying the way they are now....change is coming...
     
  7. #7 Green Wizard, Aug 2, 2014
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    Yes, you sound very confused.
     
    The OCU has nothing to do with Amendment 2. The Republican legislature voted in the Charlotte's Web bill http://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2014/1030, That bill created the OCU (Office of Compassionate Use) http://www.floridahealth.gov/programs-and-services/office-of-compassionate-use/. I do not believe the OCU has the authority to govern other bills and Amendments. That's what amendments do, they alter existing laws. If amendment 2 does not pass, then surely, without any doubt, Floridians are stuck with a piece of shit mmj law. At least amendment 2 allows for doctors to prescribe at their discretion whatever THC level strain for whatever ailment they feel appropriate. There's a huge difference between Amendment 2 passing, and Amendment 2 not passing and being stuck with an even worse scenario; access to only low THC medicine.
     
    One other point, Amendment 2 does define its regulatory body as being the FDH(Florida Department of Health), not the OCU.
     
    Lastly, if your issue is soley being watched over by big brother, then yes your concern is valid. However, there is not a mmj law in any state that does not put you on some sort of registry. Big brother? Big deal.
     
  8. some MMJ law is better than no MMJ law. same as above dept of health is in charge of implementing it not the OCU
     
  9. How does your broad, sweeping statement account for the most populous state in the country, with perhaps 50% of all "patients" nationwide, not having a mandatory registry? 
     
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    I don't know man, maybe this...
     
    http://www.cdph.ca.gov/programs/MMP/Pages/default.aspx
     
  11. the dept. of health established the ocu for this purpose. The issue is way beyond being on a list. I'm a federally convicted drug smuggler, so I'm sure I'm on a few of them. This is about a few people, some who don't even live here, taking the lion's share of the benefits and trampling basic civil liberties and further undermining our state and federal constitution. It's about taking control from a few, and putting it in the hands of the people where it belongs. After all, the law is supposed to be for the patients! The benefits that follow should remain in our communities and our state. Have you even done the research to see what the state has earmarked the projected revenue for? I am not a prohibitionist. I have been a advocate and activist since before some of you were born and have been jailed numerous times for my beliefs and the beliefs of others. It is common in the political arena to add measures, bills, addendums, whatever, to a existing popular mandate being voted upon. This way you must vote in the B.S. along with the measure you desire. Old school politicos call this a "tick". This isn't about you walking around being able to get "high", this is actually about individuals who are suffering tremendously and very sick, this is about providing those individuals a better quality of life and the residents of Florida the benefits of the projected revenue. None of which will happen if this is put on the ballot the way it currently sits. All the final measures have not even been drafted yet, they are still holding hearings on this issue. I'm sure the law will pass, just as I'm sure this will turn into the same three ring circus that California has become! A lot of people behaving like it's the after party of the century in a carnival type atmosphere, while the sick and the suffering, suffer more and get sicker . I guess this would be funny if the jails weren't full and people weren't dying. Peace!
     
  12. #12 Green Wizard, Aug 2, 2014
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    So you're a felon. You can't vote.
     
    SB 1030 is already law. And we all know it sucks, and it only favors a few organizations to profit off the sales of mmj.
     
    The florida dept of health did not create the Office of Compasionate Use on it's own accord. They were under direction of SB 1030 to implement that law.
     
    SB 1030 is still in the early phase of implementation. Regardless. It sucks.
     
    It's too bad you can't vote. I would say you should vote for this guy: http://wohlsifer4ag.com/social-issues/medical-marijuana/
     
    http://wohlsifer4ag.com/2014/05/06/web-crony-capitalism-much-bigger-charlottes-web/
     
    http://wohlsifer4ag.com/2014/05/02/florida-libertarian-party-candidate-attorney-general-bill-wohlsifer-says-thanks-thanks-marijuana-vote/
     
    http://wohlsifer4ag.com/2014/04/17/going-vote-yes-amendment-2-need-vote-wohlsifer-ag/
     
    http://wohlsifer4ag.com/category/industrial-hemp/
     
  13. Oh, thanks for bringing that up - you mean this:
     
    The California Department of Public Health's Medical Marijuana Program (MMP) was specifically established to create a State-authorized medical marijuana identification card (MMIC), along with a registry database for verification of qualified patients and their primary caregivers. Participation by patients and primary caregivers in this identification card program is voluntary. The MMP Web-based registry allows law enforcement and the public to verify the validity of a qualified patient or primary caregiver's MMIC as authorization to possess, grow, transport, and/or use medical marijuana within California. The verification website is available on the internet at www.calmmp.ca.gov.
     
    Or maybe this:
     
    "Because patients are not required to register in California, their exact number is uncertain. Under California's medical marijuana law, Prop. 215, patients need only a physician's recommendation to be legal. Just a tiny fraction of the state's medical marijuana population is enlisted in the state's voluntary ID card program, which issued just 12,659 cards in 2009-10. Therefore, California patient numbers must be estimated from other sources. Among the most salient are medical marijuana registries in Colorado and Montana, which report usage rates of 2.5% and 3.0%, respectively. Because California's law is older and has more liberal inclusion criteria than other states, usage here is likely to be higher."
     
    Good grief son.  :laughing:
     
  14. Wizard needs to take his own advice.

    http://youtu.be/TemkOKKRWic
     
  15. #15 Green Wizard, Aug 2, 2014
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    I did say some sort of registry.
     
    http://www.cdph.ca.gov/programs/Pages/MMPDrRespon.aspx It seems you must sign a release of medical information that is then sent to your county of residence in order to "Have the patient sign an authorized medical release of information.  The county program cannot process the patient's application without the appropriate authorization for release of medical information." So it seems your personal medical history is on file at county records?
     
    At any rate, I won't deny that California has a sweet deal.
     
  16. I am a convicted felon, but am not on parole, so I do vote and have done so for 38 years since my rights were restored. Research the justice system before making assumptions.  I also possess a drivers license, a library card and a expired membership card to the local gym! Peace!
     
  17. "However, there is not a mmj law in any state that does not put you on some sort of registry" is what you incorrectly said.  CA law does not "put" anyone on a list.  In fact, people need to go out of their way, make appointments, bring docs info and cough up a hundred or two bucks if they want to be put on a list.
     
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    That's cool man. Well, if you live in florida, you got a pretty cool dude to vote for attorney general. Do you like that dude?
     
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    Yeah, I said some sort of registry. So when you go see a Doc in California, they don;t make you sign a form to release you medical records to the local government to get a prescription like it says on the website I provided in post# 15?
     
  20. Just razzin' you about the cards bro! LOL! But my rights were restored and I do vote. From what I can tell he seems to be a stand up guy and may possibly be the one needed to make "public policy" clear to Florida law enforcement if the MMJ law is passed. In the meantime, unless a better candidate appears, he will probably get my vote. Peace!
     

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