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Need Help; Living A Horror Movie When High

Discussion in 'Marijuana Consumption Q&A' started by vsstar77, Jul 24, 2014.

  1. I've been smoking for 11 years, with out experiencing a bad high until a year ago. I was at a fair, and started thinking scary thoughts, like people were evil, and I felt claustrophobic. I over heated, lost my wallet, and threw up. About six months ago, I was at a restaurant, and scratching a LOTTO scratcher, when I realized the people behind me were saying the words on my scratcher, and the "n" and "z" looked the same. I felt like I was in the Matrix. I tried to quietly talk to my bf, but he didn't get it, or seem to care. I hadn't eaten in a while, but when I saw the meat on my food, I couldn't eat it. Just wanted the veggies, which I normally avoid.
     
    Last night, I had another bad high. I was with my bf, hadn't eaten, and was stressed out by him. I was fine mentally until about an hour later, when we were in the grocery store. I started having weird creepy thoughts, like the food we eat is killing us, and that the society we live in is really a bunch of demons. I told my bf I wasn't feeling well, and needed to leave. We have a "safe" word, but he never remembers it. I tried to talk to him quietly, saying I was too high and needed to go home. He of course didn't listen, and started talking about chips.
    In the freezer isle, I got overwhelmed by the humming sound the freezers make, and the "Zapem's" freaked me out, like it's causing cancer. I felt like a "crazy" person who talks out loud, although I wasn't doing that. I thought about yelling at some couple next to me, but knew that was wack-adoo! Finally at the register, I went to pick out a magazine, and the woman on the front cover looked evil, with red eyes. I reminded myself I was high, and would be okay. I didn't make a scene or anything stupid but felt faint, and crazy. 
    My bf wouldn't take me home because he "needed beer" and of course $3 for it, after I just spent $45 at the store. Up goes my stress level, even though he will pay me back eventually.  At home I was cold and I live in Fresno, Ca where it's 98 on a good day. I wasn't cold by any means. I drank some water, ate some food, and laid down in the quiet, with out my bf and felt AMAZINGLY better. I told him I can't smoke with him anymore.
     
    Why do you all think this is happening? Is it not enough food/water BEFORE I smoke, my bf who stresses me out, a panic attack or something else? Also, I joined this site because I think I need a place to go when I'm having a bad trip, as my bf isn't the person to go to obviously.  Has anyone else EVER felt this way?

     
  2. Oh man idk about ALLLL that but the whole panic attacks i can somewhat understand i smoke 24/7 and yesterday i felt real weird after smoking and i came to the conclusion that it was bc i didnt eat or drink all day.
     
  3. Actually scratch all that^ i just completely read your entire story dude you should really check to see what youre getting thata def not normal weed signs if youre hearing shit and start thinking those kind of thoughs that sounds like your buds been messed with honestly cus ive never heard stories like this. Make sure you examine your weed before smoking it and know where its coming from
     
  4. Also talk to your bf about it. Have him read what you just posted.
     
  5. #5 camacho77, Jul 24, 2014
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    Is your tolerance low? It sounds like you have a really low tolerance, and sometimes when people get really high with a low tolerance, they can psyche themselves out in ways that seems almost impossible to do on weed.

    Like my friend, who just isn't very good at smoking weed, he has a very low tolerance, and he gets to where he can't control himself. It's not bad, like he doesn't try to do anything violent or stupid, he just sits there and giggles, and you can't hold a conversation with him at all.

    Anyway. We just got done smoking one time with 2 other friends. and we all wanted Taco Bell, So I decided to drive. Now, where my friend lives, is 20 minutes away from the nearest tacobell. So we had a bit of a drive.

    About half way through the trip, my friend starts freaking out, and is making sounds like he's horrified, but won't tell us what's wrong. Just keeps saying "you wouldn't understand. You wouldn't understand." That goes on the whole rest of the way to Taco Bell, and when we get there, he continues to seem bothered, like he's just been through some shit. While we were eating, we asked him what was wrong with him, and he told us that during the entire trip to Taco Bell, he felt like he was stuck in an infinite time loop, and was destined to relive the same 2 minutes over and over again.


    This baffled us, as we never heard of anyone having that terrible of an experience on marijuana. But I guess it can happen. And we know the weed didn't have anything in it, because that was back in the day when I bought directly from a grower. A grower I knew pretty well personally.
    So just know that you're not the only one who has bad experiences. :)
     
  6. #6 Old School Smoker, Jul 24, 2014
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    I enjoy smoking AFTER I eat. I am diabetic, and if I eat on an empty stomach and the weed lowers my blood glucose level, I can get hypoglycemic and end up in a coma in the ICU.
     
    Now, that being said, If i was trippen like you, and knew that it was the weed that making me trip, I would start laughing my ass off. I would just sit down right there in the frozen foods section of the grocery store and just laugh it off for like 15 minutes. People would be asking me if i am ok and i would just keep laughing and say "The zapems! The zapems are causing us all to have cancer! Ahhahahahahaha!!!"
     
  7. You are not comfortable with your boyfriend or being in a awkward situation. So you wanna find out if your boyfriend the cause or just a multiplying force. Get high go out to store, see if you have same experience. If your fine, its just your bf and he makes you feel uncomfortable. If you do trip try and see if you have same experience with just your bf at home. If you do determine it the bf. Not being high around him, may alleviate issue. There is a root problem of you not comfortable around him though. Being comfortable stoned with person you with speaks volumes of relationship. Also in way you wrote thread, i put money on your bf being issue


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  8. Paranoia will destroya.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WJ6FbcWYRU
     
    Chill out girl and relax. Maybe you should be a loner stoner for a bit and learn to control your high. Don't let it control you.
     
    And try smoking less. Get a good buzz and roll with it.
     
  9. #9 IIGooGII, Jul 24, 2014
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    It sounds to me like it's a combination of all of these. Malnutrition can cause deficiencies in your brain that can cause your brain chemistry to go out of whack. Not eating enough will do that to you, just not quite on that scale, usually. The stress is definitely a factor and if your mental well-being is at stake by being stressed by your boyfriend then perhaps you need a new significant other or perhaps none at all.
     
    I do believe it is stress. My Fiance has stress induced seizures and conversion order. Sometimes when you're too stressed your subconscious will force it's own will to the surface it seems, causing irrational behavior and thoughts.
    Let me give you an example:
    Somebody I knew, once upon a time, had only smoked weed a couple times. This person was very incredibly stressed at the time and had some various health issues that doctors couldn't quite figure out. This person decided that day that they were going to smoke with us (me and a small group of friends) and we smoked out of my bong at the time. After a couple of hits each, this person started having strange reactions, their brain virtually took them to a place in their own mind that distorted their perception of time. I think part of it was a panic attack, stress, and quite possibly another medication this person was taking at the time (prescribed, not an addict so it wasn't a drug-induced psychosis state). Another part was probably just being out of their normal element, smoking bong for a first time around people, general discomfort. A number of things can play greatly into these episodes that make people believe they are "crazy".
     
    Either way, you may just need to relax, get yourself into a better more comfortable situation and pay more attention to your diet and eating/drinking habits. That should help at least a little bit. If anything happens to get worse, I may advise scheduling a doctor visit with your family doctor or your personal doctor, whichever. If you don't have one it never hurts to get one in line for a check-up. Also, if you're generally concerned, make really good notes, or mental notes related to your situation. The more information you can give to a doctor, the better. You might say "it's their job to know", but just because a doctor has a large knowledge pool in the world of medicine, it doesn't mean they have x-ray vision to immediately diagnose what may or may not be wrong with a person, so the more information you can provide will help the doctor narrow down the possibilities as well as treatments.
     
     
     
    This is relevant to the story I typed up as well. So it does happen, so low tolerance and stress seems to be contributing factors towards having a bad time when you're smoking. I personally have never experienced it first hand, but I have been present for other people's bad times.
     
  10. Thank you everyone! I am so glad to have some understanding and great responses! This is my first time on this site, and am SO pleased to see nice people! When I am not high I am a fairly "normal" person with out these weird thoughts, and know not to act on them.  
    Thank you!
     
  11. I get panic attacks Everytime I smoke. And I have this thing where I can forsee a bad trip but I get high anyway. If that's you , don't do it. If anything smoke less. Try smoking alone. And make sure that shit isn't laced. Post a photo of your bud. But yeah just smoke less and try smoking alone in a relaxed setting. Let me know if it happens again. Can tell your tolerance is low just remember before you smoke think happy thoughts! Ponies and cute kittens all getting baked
     
  12. I don't mean to be a turd in the punchbowl, but it's fucking weed for christsake.
     
    If you like it and it makes you feel better, than by all means smoke weed.
    IF, on the other hand, smoking herb makes you a paranoid mess, it's probably in you're best interest to either stop smoking all together, or use 1/2 the amount you use when you flip out and see if you still flip out.....etc..
    You can use common sense to decipher the rest. Titrate to a proper dose etc..
    I would just say "weed's not for everybody" but the fact that you've been toking 11 years without incident to boot does in fact raise a flag.
     
    Likeley as not i'd say it's got to do with the variety of cannabis you're using...any changes in supply or quality lately??
    If not, just pump the brakes, eat right, and exercise.
     
    P.S. Everyfuckingthing is giving us cancer, and a lot of people really are evil! Unfortunately for me their eyes don't turn red and give them off so easily!!! Sign of the times I suppose..
    Don't worry about things you can't control, we're all dying, so you better fucking enjoy it while youre here!!
     
  13. Forgot you were tokinh for 11years. I think it's your boyfriend. The way you talk about him, the context used Everytime you say my bf, shits just not working out. If what you say is true then I think you lost the emotional connection. Like on the verge of cheating kinda emotional connection. Maybe you don't feel safe around him, and seeing how weed makes you paranoid, it gets worse when you're with him.
     
  14. #14 KaideWB17, Jul 25, 2014
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    don't smoke on an empty stomach, that is the problem. You keep mentioning that you hadn't eaten on the occasions, smoking on an empty stomach will make you throw up or feel sick inside also, if you get these feelings then i am correct :)
     
  15. Eliminate one thing at a time while smoking.

    This is the basic principle of troubleshooting.

    Don't start smoking less than you're accustomed to and don't start by eliminating your bf in your smoking session.

    If you want help with this and someone to speak to, PM me.


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  16. Cannabis is a psychedelic. Bad trips can happen and you got one. Now that you've had one you might psyche yourself by thinking it will happen again. But in the end your mind is in control. Learn and master this. If you do, stuff like this won't happen again. Btw Fresno sucks


    "I'm to drunk, to taste this chicken" -Talladega nights
     
  17. I don't think any of this is related to cannabis, other than that it may be triggering an underlying condition.
     
    This does not sound like a panic attack to me, it sounds like psychosis.
     


     
    This is a delusion. A delusion differs from an hallucination in that it is plausible, or possible, but not actually happening. Hallucinations are when you see or hear things that are not real, and cannot be real.
     
    Mindfulness meditation: Close your eyes, sit with your back straight, if possible. Feel your breathing. Pick one sensation of your breathing (chest or stomach rising and falling, cool air in and out of your nose or mouth). Focus only on that sensation. When other thoughts enter your mind, gently remind yourself that you are only focusing on the sensation of breathing. Bring your attention back to your breathing, every time. Let your inner voice say "in" and "out" along with your breathing. Or let your inner voice repeat "my inner voice thinks only of breathing, and is at peace" as you're focusing on your breathing.
     
    See your scary thoughts as what they are - projections into the future, nothing more. They are not related to NOW, or to the reality of NOW, because NOW you are sitting in a restaurant scratching a lotto ticket, or NOW you are shopping in the grocery store with your bf.
     
    All of this may not help when you're really in the middle of a scary experience, but if you practice this you will learn to separate thoughts that are projections into the future, or ruminations about the past, from what you are really experiencing NOW, in the reality of NOW.
     
    Other advice: take a break from cannabis, see a psychiatrist, and get on medication. Return to using cannabis only when you feel comfortable doing so. Meditate, see a counselor, exercise, pursue a passion that you may have left behind (art, music, etc..).
     
    Get your brain chemistry in order.
     
    Cannabis did not cause this to happen to you, but it may have allowed it to happen. It opens mental doors. Sometimes it can open scary ones too, but only if they are there in the first place.
     
    May you be happy. May you be safe and protected from harm. May you be healthy and strong. May you live a life of ease.
     
    :)
     
  18. Right when i read and then my bf i stopped reading.
     
  19. That sounds cool as fuck tbh. Send me all your weed cuz you obviously don't need it aymore
     
  20. you're just high and paranoid lol
     

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