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  1. #41 Green Knight, Jul 23, 2014
  2. #42 artkickster, Jul 23, 2014
    Loki,
    Did you do a side by side grow comparison of LED vs HPS? If so I'm interested in the results.


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  3. #43 Head Chef, Jul 23, 2014
    Yeah he did, if memory serves me correct he has a thread for it, I'm not subbed to it coz it was dead last time I was :( @[member="loki125"] what's the link bruva?


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    The adventures of Loki! - http://forum.grasscity.com/index.php?/topic/1299798-Everyone-This-Is-Loki%2C-Loki-This-Is-Everyone
     
  4. #44 loki125, Jul 23, 2014
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    Yes i did between 200w led and 250w hps grew think different
    Hps and led were very simila in terms of yeild i got 2.5oz of hps and 2.8oz off the think different under led the one under led tho cause it didnt get as hot tasted nicer :)

    Left and middle is led
    Right is hps
    The hps one won me the dutch passion photo contest

    But then after them i grew an auto mazar and got 3.7 oz off her

    Tho last pic 250w hps can grow big plants as well as led i grow 4 plants per 250w i use so in the second to last pic there was one more plant but it finished early and was a sweet tooth which was lovely :)

    So i now have both an led tent which i use 400 total watts tho i want 800 total watts when i can get them

    And i have a 250w for my shorter plants and chillis chillis get the corners and they look good haha:)

    http://forum.grasscity.com/index.php?/topic/1275211-Dutch-passion-Think-Different-and-an-auto-purple
     

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  6. #46 Green Knight, Jul 23, 2014
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    Journal Link: http://forum.grasscity.com/indoor-grow-journals/1320174-first-organic-indoorgrow.html

    ... Lifted a Mile High :D
     

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  9. #49 Head Chef, Jul 23, 2014
    I think it was his yeah


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  10. #50 Green Knight, Jul 23, 2014
    Yep, my wife believes I had 4 Purple Kush seeds before I begin germination weeks ago, then dropped & lost one... which was really dreadful, then about a week later we find this one reaching for a light, lol, so we guess PK... We'll have to hope it lives to find out. She said she was sweeping in that area where it germ'd... Who knows what happened...


    Journal Link: http://forum.grasscity.com/indoor-grow-journals/1320174-first-organic-indoorgrow.html

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  11. #51 Gandalf_the_Green, Jul 23, 2014
    That is one fuckin long taproot!
     
    What are you growing in?  Did you weave a nest like a bird? lol  :poke:
     
    I'm here man!  Feel free to ask questions, but it looks like you're doing quite well!  We'll have to get you off that BioBizz crap though lol
     
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  12. #52 nbyrne2388, Jul 23, 2014
    Ugh I killed one of my babies overnight. It was the last one to pop, and I must have put it too close to the light. I was using an old 75w floro just to get a little extra light, and it looks like it was too close. Ugh why didn't I learn all this shit BEFORE I germinated all these seeds?!

    Also, here's a link to my journal:
    http://forum.grasscity.com/index.php?/topic/1320027-New-Grow

    Funny that your buddy that did the 20/4 is on the East coast, cause I am too.

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  14. #54 Green Knight, Jul 23, 2014
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  15. #55 Green Knight, Jul 23, 2014
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    Yeah, maybe it had something to do with the drain? Or just reaching for light...

    Haha! a bird nest.... Of course I weaved a nest, don't you do that? Lol, good one G. If you're talking about the seedling pots, those are all natural fibrous pots from a nursery.

    Here's some photos of the current nutrients and soil I was planning on using. Can I use the organic soil to start my organic living soil Gandalf?

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    Journal Link: http://forum.grasscity.com/indoor-grow-journals/1320174-first-organic-indoorgrow.html

    Don't Worry Be Happy... Lifted a Mile High :D
     
  16. #56 nbyrne2388, Jul 23, 2014
    I agree silver stacks. Good point. :p

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  17. #57 nbyrne2388, Jul 23, 2014
    Oh, I was just busting your balls talking about your post with just the "." Lol

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  18. #58 Head Chef, Jul 23, 2014
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  19. #59 Green Knight, Jul 23, 2014
    I lost the pix... And had to start over.... It made me leave a character... Lol


    Journal Link: http://forum.grasscity.com/indoor-grow-journals/1320174-first-organic-indoorgrow.html

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  20. #60 Gandalf_the_Green, Jul 23, 2014
     
    Yeah, you can.  I'm asking some more experienced dudes what their recommendation is..... I'm not sure that you should.  I think I'd prefer to start from scratch and save that Roots Organic soil for planting seeds or clones or something....  But I'll get back to you when I get more info from the growmies.
     
    The BioBizz nutes stink.... real rip-off.  I'm not sure what I'd do if I were you.... I guess I'd use them on this grow.  Unlike many nutrient lines, they don't contain any dangerous synthetic chemicals.  The issue with them is that they are essentially just molasses.  BioGrow is literally just molasses (actually the waste product of molasses production- vinasse).  BioBloom is molasses + seaweed (msds here: http://www.progrow.co.uk/acatalog/BiobloomMSDS.pdf).  So the honest truth is.... I could make a bottle of BioBloom for about $1.20/gallon, and BioGrow for like $0.50/gallon.
     
    Yikes.... yeah, maybe I'd just make my own nutes from local plants and save the BioJunk for compost teas or something.... at least they are good as a sugar source for bacteria lol.
     
    Here's a post I made a while back ranting on BioGrow lol
     
    \nHere is their description from their website:
    \nBio-Grow is a liquid fertilizer that can be applied to most types of soil and substrate mixtures. Bio·Grow® is made from 100% Dutchorganic sugar beet extract, commonly known as beet vinasse. Beet vinasse is a by-product of turning sugar beets or sugar cane into sugar. 
    \nOK.... so it's beet vinasse... sounds fancy.... here's Wiki's definition of vinasse:
    \nVinasse is a byproduct of the sugar industry.Sugarcane or Sugar beet is processed to produce crystalline sugar, pulp and molasses. The latter are further processed by fermentation to ethanol, ascorbic acid or other products. After the removal of the desired product (alcohol, ascorbic acid, etc.) the remaining material is called vinasse.
    \nOK.... so vinasse is a wasteproduct of molasses, alcohol, and sugar production..... Not sounding as appealing anymore.....
    \nHere's an LD post on the beet/molasses/sugar industry.... he doesn't call it 'vinasse', he calls it 'beet pulp':
    \nMost of the sugar around the world comes from sugar beets (a tuber) from which the 'sugar' is removed from the beet pulpand the 'sugar' that is not usable (taste, color, smell, etc.) becomes 'livestock molasses' that you will find at a farm or feed store. It's used to make crappy straw taste better for livestock. 

    This form has little value for the myriad of reasons that growers feel the need to add molasses to their gardens/farms. 

    This form of molasses cannot be 'sulphured' or 'unsulphured' - that designation comes from sugar processed from sugar cane - a grass and not a tuber. The molasses goes through 3 different boils and each one results in a different form of molasseswith blackstrap being the final boil and the most concentrated as it relates to minerals, amino acids, enzymes, et al.

    Back to the beet pulp - this product is what remains after everything with a commercial value has been removed - if you call livestock molasses @ $.75 per gallon at the wholesale level a viable enterprise.

    Besides the fact that there is absolutely nothing of value in this feed item is the fact that it's a plant material which will be broken down in the soil. Adding 'green manures' in a large amount is counter-productive because the activity in the soil switches from breaking down minerals and nutrients to breaking down the plant material. This requires a large amount of nitrogen - nitrogen which is now locked-out from the plant.

    This is the phenomenon generally described as 'burning' - it's not burning anything. The nitrogen is locked out. See the term/science of nitrification for a better understanding.

    Even in the world of livestock, the feeding of beet pulp is not without conversation and a wide range of positions.

    HTH

    LD
     
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