Preeminence Of Truth Over Everything

Discussion in 'Philosophy' started by pickledpie, Jul 19, 2014.

  1. What is truth? What isn't truth?

    What exists and in what form does it exist?

    What is perceived, why is it percieved and why is it perceived as such?

    Find your own answers, but don't search blindly. No one's going to think for you. Don't reject something if it doesn't agree with your views, try to understand why it might make sense. Recognise where things come from. What things are. Where things go.
     
  2. if we build upon knowledge, do we not think for our people? whether the favors returned, is to be seen.
     
  3. #3 Account_Banned283, Jul 19, 2014
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    What should of been written;
     
    ''Don't reject something if it doesn't agree with your views, unless you are me, in which case do so excessively.''
     
  4. Does the ultimate answer end up being there are no answers? If every truth is subjective and existence is relative to the one perceiving it , does anything exist? Should we even have views if we can't even figure out if we truly exist? Is extensive philosophical questioning getting anyone anywhere?
     
  5. He can correct me if I'm wrong but the way I read it is that there are answers out there to our questions. The thing is well never truly know if were right or wrong so we should form our opinions based on good arguments and evidence.
     
  6. To put it most simply, the highest answer is Truth. One cannot find truth through questions and seeking, one finds truth by letting go of delusions. The self, or rather, what we call the self is something that exists beyond our attempts to conceptualize it and fit it into a particular framework according to our experiences. The self is inherently dependently arisen as is determined when one understands what constitutes the sentient being.
     
    What are the aspects that constitute a sentient being? The Buddha spoke of the 5 Skandha's, or, the 5 aggregates. Which are:
     
    1. "form" or "matter"<sup>[e]</sup> (Skt., Pāli rÅ«pa; Tib. gzugs): external and internal matter. Externally, rupa is the physical world. Internally, rupa includes the material body and the physical sense organs.<sup>[f]</sup>\t
    2. "sensation" or "feeling" (Skt., Pāli vedanā; Tib. tshor-ba): sensing an object<sup>[g]</sup> as either pleasant, unpleasant or neutral.<sup>[h]</sup><sup></sup>\t[*]"perception""conception""apperception""cognition", or "discrimination" (Skt. samjñā, Pāli saññā, Tib. 'du-shes): registers whether an object is recognized or not (for instance, the sound of a bell or the shape of a tree).\t[*]"mental formations""impulses""volition", or "compositional factors" (Skt. samskāra, Pāli saá¹…khāra, Tib. 'du-byed): all types of mental habits, thoughts, ideas, opinions, prejudices, compulsions, and decisions triggered by an object.<sup>[j]</sup>\t[*]"consciousness" or "discernment"<sup>[k]</sup> (Skt. vijñāna, Pāli viññāṇa,<sup>[l]</sup> Tib. rnam-par-shes-pa):\t<ol><li>In the Nikayas/Ä€gamas: cognizance,<sup>[5]</sup><sup>[m]</sup> that which discerns<sup>[6]</sup><sup>[n]</sup>\t\t[*]In the Abhidhamma: a series of rapidly changing interconnected discrete acts of cognizance.<sup>[o]</sup>\t\t[*]In some Mahayana sources: the base that supports all experience.<sup>[p]</sup>\t
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    <sup>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skandha</sup>
     
     
    The greatest truth is to recognize where these things arise from. This does not result from philosophical questioning. This results from deep meditation and contemplation in attempts to find the root of what we call self.

    Truth is experience based, not knowledge based. When you experience it, you will know. You will try to put into into words and you won't be able too.
     
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    Remember not to build upon a shaky foundation. Firstly seek to understand, what is knowledge? Where does knowledge come from?
     
    What is the cause of our thinking? What is the cause of our people?
     
    Truth is in between all these ideas. Truth lies in every word because every word is a question. That question is, what is this word and from what does it arise? What is it's root?
     
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    Is truth subjective? From what does subjective arise? Understand the nature of your being, the nature of these thoughts, ideas and words.
     
  9. No! There are no arguments, there is no evidence to be expressed. Truth is found seeking the root. So what is the root of your experience? What is different between outside and inside?
     
  10. Subjective arises from the definition of the word. Are you simply saying form your own truths and opinions? Does that also apply to scientifically proven truths? Like the sky being blue?

    Maybe people who decide to perceive their own truths are the ones in the mental hospitals. But then again one could say we just dont accept them which makes them end up in those facilities
     
  11. Even a few months ago I'd still say there was no truth or answer to anything. I now hold a more materialist stance, where everything has a direct cause and effect. Because of this, truth (by which I mean solid concrete fact) also exists, but we may never fully be able to prove certain things
     
  12. Don't rely on words. Words are never truth and as soon as a word is spoken, it is not speaking truth.
     
    Find truth in the movement of the breath. Let the sound of silence amidst the noise lead you to truth.
     
    The universe itself will whisper to your soul and tell you what it is...
     
  13. The plan is not ours. Life does not care about our plans..remember.


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  14. #14 clevername, Jul 20, 2014
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    lol at this thread's title...
     
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    truth is axiomatic, self-evident.
     
    Truth is what actually is, whether we understand it, misinterpret it, or even perceive it at all, truth is truth.
     
  15. There is only personal Truth-as it has to relate to the Self. 
     
  16. Truth has nothing to do with plans and nothing to do with personal relation to a self.

    Truth is the truth of your being. Truth is what you find when you follow the stem to the root and truly find yourself in the root, truly find everything within the root.

    What do you see when you see nothing extra? Become as dead while alive and you will find truth. I'm sure someone could find quotes mirroring that in the bible and SGGS (sri guru granth sahib) and perhaps other religious texts.
     

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