Disclaimer: This is purely my curiosity and I'm in no way pushing certain ways of life on anyone. If you disagree I will listen with open ears/mind if I overlooked something which is common for me. ***Also please check my definition of overweight below before raging on me. TLDR below as well So I've been wondering why people (skinny and fat) more or less encourage or enable overweight people to continue as they are. Everyone has their own thing, BUT where's the line between telling them they can do as they please and telling them their doing everything right? For example a lot of social media pictures will show someone overweight with a quote along the lines of "I'm beautiful, if you don't agree fuck off" the context of the quote and the comments from others convey that message to me at least. I'm all for telling the judgmental people to fuck off, however can anyone really agree that being overweight is a good thing or alright? Now my definition of "overweight" is NOT "anything over 110lbs". I interpret it as weighing significantly over the individual person's "healthy weight" to where you have to change your daily routine (which I believe has a wide range before I consider it overweight) If I see you are large and hear you start to breathe heavily after waiting in line for 5min I will think you are overweight, at the very least out of shape. I really am sorry if I was being insensitive but I tried and just can't rationalize. W/ the exception of physical and (depending) mental/emotional conditions of course. Curves as fine, a fold is fine, hell beer bellies are fine. I know a few guys with bellies that can physically out do me or other skinny people. Now for the overweight people that make an attempt to lose or control their weight, they have the bragging rights to say their doing fine, they're trying. The girl/guys that use "supporting" comfort talk as a free pass to condemn exercise do not. I'd like to think I can speak for both sides, as a child up until the beginning of middle/high school I was overweight, I would eat and not do shit then eat some more. I wasn't obese but certainly not healthy, no one encouraged my overeating and I didn't expect it. When family pointed out I was "eating well" I knew what it meant and I still thought at least they said it nicely. Then I started getting skinnier through a controlled diet, it took a couple years before I lost it, 160lbs in middle school at my highest. Now I'm fit w/ toned muscles and have been keeping it that way. I have the stretch marks and have no shame, sometimes haha I'm very relaxed about it though, every other day I'll still stuff my face to the point of bloating when I get the munchies and I only check my weight like 3 times a yr lol. I just keep in mind that such indulgences should be balanced with exercise or at least some consideration the next time I get hungry which is often not too long after my little binge. If I commented on one of the pictures I mentioned: "All power to you, but in reality a run once a week won't hurt" Poor choice of words or not, I get flamed like I just bullied the chick (it's mostly girls posting these). Again not on the chubby girls, the ones that just make you wonder if they care about themselves or not. (What next, praise for not gaining another 10lbs?) I don't make any opinions on her attractiveness, just a human showing some concern for another's health. TLDR: Imo Overweight people shouldn't be supported if they keep getting fatter or make no effort to better themselves So why do people choose to say "you go girl/bro!"<- enabler instead of "Do you wanna go to the gym with me tomorrow then get some Baskin Robins?" <- not hating just being a positive supporter Thoughts positive and negative welcomed, a world where everyone agreed on everything would be boring. Sent from my iPhone using Grasscity Forum
Someone needs to let them know they're fat...... and someone needs to support them.... The circle of fat.
Where to begin... First of all, it's nobody's business to really say anything about anyone else's body type (unless it has a direct effect on you, like it's your husband or wife and they are going down a dangerous path towards diabetes or the like). In America, obesity is more of a comedic joke than an actual illness. And...I think it's hard for people to lose weight because of our cultural climate. When Americans are already working more than most other established countries, they don't want to go to the gym or go for a job. They want to sleep, or eat a nice meal, or drink some booze. I don't like how obesity is encouraged, like BBW's (who aren't beautiful -- they are nasty) and feminist articles. And I like curves ...hell, I love them. I think stick women are disgusting, whether they are models or not. It's not appealing and it's probably just as unhealthy, especially if the sticks are bulimic or anorexic. But, really, what do you want to have happen OP? People will always do what they want because, simply, they can. Blame the food distribution in this country (processed foods and fast food), the social landscape, etc etc. And there is a difference between shaming and helping. If they don't want the help, screw it.
This, these sentences are pretty much why I can't say you're wrong. Not my personal business to start with and if they're happy with it I have no issue at the end of the day. I just had a problem with the ones acting high and mighty fishing for compliments and throwing back the helpful hints. Then proceeding to gather an army of politically correct parents and ignorant teenagers to bash the so called "health nuts" I think I just dislike it when people do things deterinmental to their body however small or large the possible risk is. Not the person just the actions, be it over eating or smokin meth by the 8th. Dnt know why it bothers me so, guess I got my own issues to workout first, along with my addiction of quotations lol Sent from my iPhone using Grasscity Forum
Fat is gross, and obese people are the result of lazyness. No matter how you try to justify it, if you are fat, then you are lazy Sent from my LG-E739 using Grasscity Forum mobile app also true Sent from my LG-E739 using Grasscity Forum mobile app
i think the blame shouldnt fall on very large people soley. if ur american i challenge you to find food products without high fructose corn syrup or corn syrup. one of americas top products. it highly addictive and packed full of sugar wich will course weight gain. diet drinks have a high sugar flavour wich the brain thinks is real sugar so ur body thinks its coming then nothing..... so ur body says giv me sugar so in a hour ur craviing sweets. but surely when people go up 5 sizes they should think.... hmm im getting big. first grow http://forum.grasscity.com/index.php?/topic/1313862-First-Timer-Nft-With-Cfl's-Or-Kents-Bag-Seed
All creatures with eyes, noses, ears, make appraisals of each other. And the right to voice your opinion is enshrined in your constitution. Some people claim it's not their fault they're fat. That's it's a condition they're born with, and everybody should just accept that. Well some people are born with an aversion to grotesqueness, and honestly find the site of the morbidly obese offensive. Accept those people too. Considering State Healthcare is being pushed out, you may now being making cost appraisal of peoples' refusal to maintain themselves. Or just weak-willed. Sadly, you do not even have to do anything to lose weight. Just stop eating so much. Obese people cannot even do that. Obese people are no different from junkies. Get your shit together folks!
View attachment 141994 Found'em! Most places put the healthy food right near the entrance, so fat people won't have to walk so far.
I don't think that is the reason. I think they put stuff where it fits, not all stores have produce by the door Sent from my LG-E739 using Grasscity Forum mobile app
I think obesity has a lot to do with genetics. What if your genes can change your appetite to become more hungry than a regular persons appetite. Genetics can be give someone a higher risk of cancer and other illnesses. This can also be used as an excuse to not eat right and exercise. Sent from my iPhone using Grasscity Forum
Larger portion sizes are to blame for over eating not someone's genes. I'd be shocked if in your genetic makeup was something that determines fullness. I'm sure it varies slightly but years of over eating will through off those signals anyway. Stop eating so much and take a walk. People don't need to go to the gym to lose weight and be healthier. You don't have to be skinny either just the huge people I don't get it The second paragraph wasn't directed at you.
Obesity has very little to do with genetics. Its the availibility of food that causes it. I mean yea, maybe you have a gene that limits your self.control. I wouldn't consider that a fat gene tho Sent from my LG-E739 using Grasscity Forum mobile app
A lot of what you said is just your opinion: People can be overweight and beautiful in somebody's eyes. That doesn't mean it's a good or healthy thing. If you personally don't think overweight people are beautiful, that's fine. These are all just arbitrary lines in the sand you have drawn. It's true people get too sensitive but you're right that positive comments are the best way to help if you actually care and are not just trying to belittle somebody. Maybe since people are sensitive they would appreciate a private message from you inviting them to the gym or for a run. Instead of posting it publicly where it might be perceived as a judgmental/dickhead/troll thing to say, regardless how apt that description might be.
I think its because we want everyone to like themselves. Majority of my friends are overweight and I am medium figured. A lot i hear from them that they wish they could look like me and diss themselves. Now I dont try and downplay like they are not overweight but I dont sugarcoat either. Its ironic because as I try to improve my health to a thinner toner body type they are angry and my personal opinion on being overweight is where are your limits people? If you're going places and consistently eating more and worse food than anyone around you shouldnt it click in? Yeah I get everyone loves food to an extent but there should be a time when you take a look and notice how bad this food makes you physically and mentally feel? It just drives me nuts when people make negative about what I am eating when Im the one who knows how much I need. Anyways the weight issue is really "dont tell them obsessively to get thin and to not eat that but make sure you're losing inches". Finding a middle ground seems to be a big issue.
completely agree but in the uk its only 10% of the entire superstore. first grow http://forum.grasscity.com/index.php?/topic/1313862-First-Timer-Nft-With-Cfl's-Or-Kents-Bag-Seed
I read some great stuff and alota good points, as well as the person somewhere above said, it's all my opinion but I as they quote from my original post, I leave the beauty part completely out of the equation because of how touchy it is for some people. beauty may be an opinion but I'd like to think there's some general consensus on a healthy state of body which is the main subject I'm concerned/referring about. I think those people that want to support are focus more on making them feel better, which is ok if they also give them that little push in the right direction. And I do see that in some cases, just needs to be more. Sent from my iPhone using Grasscity Forum