Awareness, Pure Consciousness, Higher Self, Techniques...

Discussion in 'Religion, Beliefs and Spirituality' started by svedka, Jun 23, 2014.

  1. What in you does not require any effort, takes no time, requires no practice, no belief, no posturing, no peer approval?  What is your natural state of "Being"? :confused_2:
     
    Let's kick it off with a 14 min. video that will point you to your Beingness, Isness... Life get's pretty damn simple after you dip into this nector.  :yay:
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Sxa6bCtlto#t=17
     
    Peace
     

     
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  2. one thing you are not: humble
     
  3. interesting observation.. wasn't implying i was... what's this concept "humble" got to do with reality anyway being a typical dualistic egoic mind perception fleeting as the wind.. doesn't pass the test...
     
    "Nothing Real can be threatened, nothing unreal exists." ACIM
     
    a persona, inflection or whatever else u want to call it is as fleeting as a mosquito... the mosquito doesn't exist any more than our physical bodies... they are dreams of the egoic mind as they do not pass the test of time (another illusion of the mind btw)... imho :hide:
     
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  4. Hey man, if you smoke me out once ill smoke you out later. 

    That's got to be some amazing shit. 
     
  5. #5 svedka, Jun 30, 2014
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    actually i've not smoked, vaped or partaken of anything for a couple of weeks... have to blame watching too many of the thousand or so videos by Mooji... best not watch any of them if you want to continue clouding the mind im "h" o... even though he did advise one guy to contine doing his pot, heavy metal band & junk food as long as he enjoyed it and wasn't a slave to any of it... there are no don'ts in reality... just a loss of interest in what doesn't provide lasting satisfaction or lead to greater joy, bliss, awareness, etc. 
     
    still have a good supply of dry herb, oil and honey that may or may not ever be imbibed... then again i may partake in the next hour.. :confused_2:
     
    Peace
     
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  6. Eckhart Tolle is a charlatan.
     
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    the test isn't real, man
     
  8. #8 svedka, Jun 30, 2014
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    could be but he is pumping the stuff that would rid the world of all mind created problems, wars, needless, senseless slaughter in the name of "god"... mind cannot solve problems rooted in ignorance (not knowing ones Self)... we are not the mind, the mind is used by pure consciousness/awareness which is our True Reality... charlatan or not those with mental/emotional problems, anger mangement issues, etc. would be served by following his suggestions... what's done is done and gone and the next moment in future does not exist... Herein lays Freedom from that computer we call the mind... the imposter self... :devious:
     
    Can't help but admire a guy that can sell folks something that is absolutely free and their own inherient nature... sort of like selling bottled air... but if the shit works?  and lives are changed for the better, suicides prevented, relationships saved... well, bring on more charlatans my friend... bring them on... :yay:
     
  9. that which does not stand the test of eternity is not real... as buddists say, 1000 years of city, 1000 yrs of forest, rinse and repeat... yet the absolute Being, the Witness of what is happening on the stage of "life" goes on forever and was before the big bang... yes, pure awareness, the I AM (therefore i think) is the only thing that DOES pass the test... :ey:
     
  10. The only thing he's doing is exploiting people's insecurities and desire for spiritual fulfillment. He's oversimplified the spiritual teachings of the world and compressed them into a fun, feel-good catchphrase: "Be In The Present", "The Power of Now". No one is benefiting from these cheap sentiments; they merely play with the emotions and offer people a superficial sense of complacency; they never penetrate anything deeper. I mean just read your posts: "We are not the mind, the mind is used by our consciousness/awareness which is our True Reality". These are not the words spoken by a creative and spontaneous spirituality, they're the sentimental gunk memorized from a book or YouTube video and mindlessly regurgitated.
     
    Eckhart Tolle is a shameless opportunist who sells pictures of his haughty face, charges way too much money for lectures and even comprised random pieces of music and pawns it off on the public as "Music to Meditate To". And "his people" eat it up, even though it's obvious that these are all just desperate money-grabs. To put it simply, Tolle wants people to open their wallets, not their minds.
     
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  11. Well said
     
  12. #12 svedka, Jul 1, 2014
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    Many so called religions exploit people's insecurities and desire for spiritual fulfillment. Most have overcomplicated spiritual teachings and some even believe in sin, death of the soul, hell fire and brimstone, reincarnating as a mosquito if u commit adultery, life is hard and then u die, if lucky go to a wonderland called heaven.. They all operate on collection of funds, many of the so called ministers live in huge mansions... there was a faith healer O. Roberts had a mansion in Beverly Hills along with his university in Tulsa, total fraud, believers donated their estates...
     
    Mankind's problem is they cannot "Be In The Present" as they live in an perceptual world of thoughts and things, thinking their way through life, not knowing who they are, but only the conditioning.. identifying with their gender, profession (or lack thereof), spouse, friends, hobbies, etc... They are not benefiting from these cheap sentiments; they merely play in a make believe world that "appears to be real...a superficial sense of being, doing and having; they never penetrate anything deeper.
     
    Hindu philosophies, Zen Buddhism, ACIM and any non-dualistic approach to spirituality (even unified field theory in physics) agree that the world is a fraud if based on perception alone, not as it appears at all and nothing in the physical or mental survives in time (another illusion of the mind)...
     
    Both Mooji and Tolle, teach the same non-dualistic approach as the above mentioned... It is a take responsibility for your thoughts, moods, emotions as they are not caused by anyTHING outside your own consciousness... we create our world each moment, there is no continuity other than the ego spinning the drama together in order to keep the illusion that it exists...
     
    man has created God & gods in his own image and the word is overused, abused, not understood and will never be until man knows his Self..
     
    anyone that's done acid or shrooms has had at least a unity consciousness Oneness experience... if u haven't tried it suggest u do.. i've not tried either in decades and didn't overdue it but it's either that or a lot of meditation and introspection to cut through the illusion and all the drama on the stage of "life".. did my share of those too... easier on the brain and nervous system albeit slower.
     
    Peace bro
     

     
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    amusing how you take a gift of moments and call it eternal.  you must know something that is impossible for a normal human to know
     
  14. #14 svedka, Jul 1, 2014
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    not at all.. normal humans by and large are not normal in that they forgot their True identity completely unconscious of the "gifts of moments" for the most part.. this due to continuous mind chatter which they deem "normal"... on that basis they are NOT normal given their potential..
     
    "Normal" would be a Christ, Buddha, Seer, Sage or even a Ramana Maharishi (not to be confused with the TM guru)... Long before Jesus the Christ was reported to have walked the earth, sages in India were researching conscousness and this timeless state was revealed. Would be a very cruel "God" or Creative Intelligence that would produce beings like the above mentioned then thumb it's nose at the rest of us as if to say..."here is perfection, the son i love, but the lot of you are hopeless failures (read sinners). :rolleyes:
     
    It's so simple our ego mind can't get around it.. also it threatens that very same perceptual state of who we "think" we and others are.
     
    I for one have had enough of this "wheel" so to speak, or you could call it a hamster spin wheel... busy busy, doing doing, gaining losing, excitment, boredom, etc... Peace becomes a priority after so many lifetimes... not to mention several in this one when you consider all the roles we play over decades.
     
  15. you claim to have had enough.  i don't think you mean it
     
  16. A "Mooji Minute" (in the illusion of time of course) :laughing:
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWSURwKaeUM
     
  17. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with the teachings Tolle shamelessly appropriates; my problem is with his approach at meshing them together. He's glib and uncritical. He takes only what he wants and leaves the rest. When you do this you're left with a watered-down spirituality, free from any sacrifice or hard work. It's merely a contrived and convenient personal philosophy, too concerned with your own self to ever be anything more than a swelling of emotion. Tolle is most certainly aware of this, he's selling easy "solutions" to "cure" massive problems. It's disgusting.
     
    And are you really trying to advocate psychedelics as a tool to spiritual enlightenment (something I'm quite sure is against the forum's rules)? Could you be any more of a stereotype?
     
  18. you disagree? im a little surprised based on your username.
     
  19. #19 White Indian, Jul 4, 2014
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    I couldn't disagree more. I suppose they could be used as an OK starting point--something to drastically change your perspective; but psychedelics produce far too many distractions in the mind to derive anything fruitful from it. It exaggerates everything, makes you too susceptible to emotion and often shows you exactly what you would like to see.
     
    And I got the username from the movie, Walk Hard. Lol. Definitely doesn't have anything to do with shamanism, if that's what you thought.
     
  20. ah i gotcha. i have to disagree with you then. while i dont endorse shamanism ive always found particular things to be extremely helpful for spiritual growth. especially for those trying to find their own path,not particularly following one set of teaching or sect.

    it isnt so much like "if i injest chemical x the truth will be revealed." its more like "i have questions, and would like insight i may not otherwise be able to experience sober, but then deeply reflect on that when i am sober and see of anything meaningful was gained."

    theyre perhaps a glimpse, not a conduit
     

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