Honeycomb Perc (Opinions)

Discussion in 'Bongs, Dab Rigs, Bubblers, Water Pipes' started by Algore, Jun 14, 2014.

  1. Hey guys, trying to get some good opinions on the quality of honeycomb percs. I've seen quite a few people on here say they suck for some reason but they don't say why. I bought a black leaf one with 2 honeycomb discs, thing is smooth as can be and literally foams up the bong when cleared. I've also used a 4 disc bong with ashcatcher and precoolers, very very smooth. And I've noticed that the honeycomb discs can also make rinsing the bong a lot easier when you learn the techniques of how to use the air pressure to your advantage. But yeah what is so bad about these things??? To me they seem like the new perc to be using. The bubbles foam up the bong meaning the smoke stays in water a lot longer then it would with other bongs, and the draw time is great. Takes a split second to clear the bong. What are your opinions?

     
  2. #2 ckycampmember, Jun 14, 2014
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    Honeycombs are cheap china versions of disc percs. Look it up, there is nothing new about honeycombs other than it's mass produced garbage.

    Ya they clear fast but so do ALL stemless pieces as well as stemlines.Apix stack way harder and thats just one example...


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  3. How  strange, tried typing in several different questions on Google about why honeycomb percs are cheap or a rip off and found nothing. The honeycomb bongs I've seen have ALLLLL been thick boro glass. Never even seen a china version of one, probably never will. If you have no argument other then "its mass produced garbage from china." then get out. The smoke stays submerged in water for so much longer in the bubbles/foam honeycombs create. They give the smoothest, cleanest hits.
     
  4. #4 ckycampmember, Jun 14, 2014
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    You have no legitamite data to verify your results so it's entirely irrelevant. "It stays submerged longer" is some bullshit based on a subprime education. It's not my fault you cannot utilize the internet to it's fullest potential and yet again I stress how irrelevant your "experience" or lack there of is.

    I have been a respected member of this community for a long time and put in my hours learning about glass whereas you obviously speak biased nonsense.

    China glass is still china glass no matter how you blow it.



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  5. How is "it stays submerged in water longer" bullshit? It is fact, the smoke comes in bubbles through the discs and fills up with all of this water constantly bubbling into it and then you clear it, all that smoke gets even smoother from being submerged in the foam that comes up from being cleared. Boro glass or not, this glass is 5mm thick and this bong has gotten me smoother rips then $500-1000 bongs that I have used extensively.
     
  6. In my experience honeycomb Percs are just a euphemism for disc perc used generally, but not always, by lower quality glass blowers. That being said I've hit tons of cheaper honeycomb Percs and found that they aren't bad at all. In fact if you're gonna with any perc from cheaper companies I would go with a honeycomb cause they're much harder perc to fuck up then like a tree and have less drag. Personally they're not my favorite kind of perc, but probabaly the best kind of perc to get from a website like thickqualityglass or pieces in the 0-100 dollar range.


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  7. #7 ckycampmember, Jun 14, 2014
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    Ya and a peyote pillar is a complete ripoff...
    :laughing:

    Enjoy that china glass.

    Like I said, show the data or evidence and I'll leave you alone. But you cannot prove anything and make biased and entirely false claims.

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  8. Thank you! You give an honest opinion without getting hostile like other people. I think the same thing, china glass or not, glass is glass and it will all break the same. The water is what gets you a real smooth, cool hit.
     
  9. What data or evidence have you shown? All you did was lead me to another thread on here about other peoples probably biased opinions on Black Leaf. Have fun bringing more negativity to the other people of this forum.
     
  10. :laughing: negativity, more like the truth.


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  11. I have a custom honeycomb into disc perc straight, I happen to know it isn't Chinese glass and must say it is a beautiful piece to smoke from, plenty of action and clears in a second. That being said, a stemline gives a similarly hit just a bit milkier imo. No need for hate blades you two would be good buds if the Argument was in person where you could actually show one another your glass :) it's one love with enough outside hate as is.
     
  12. For real I hate how aggressive people act for a simple thread. Black leaf lists my honeycomb bong as made from boro glass so that's what I'll believe. It hits like a champ so who am I to complain. Don't understand why people are also hating on honeycomb percs, they're purely amazing.
     
  13. #13 nativetongues, Jun 15, 2014
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    Couldn't agree more. I personally won't ever buy a Chinese piece again because I love the smooth hit of some of the nicer pieces I have access to and I find them to generally be harsher. I've never found a perc from weedstar, blackleaf, or blaze that is completely straight and has a perfect design. All the ones I've seen have had aren't usually perfectly straight, not completely offline, but it definitely leads to a little more drag. The biggest problem though is that most of the pieces I've seen by them don't have enough holes or holes in the right place which leads to a lot less airflow and more drag. I've found that their discs are usually decent because it's a very simple perc to blow with a lot of holes compared to most other Percs. Ultimately, the fragileness of Chinese glass is not the deal breaker for me, but the slight imperfections and diffusion that isn't as smooth as nicer glass. I treat my pieces all extremely careful and except for a couple incidences in my early smoking days I haven't broken any of my glass so I'm not too worried about how thick it is, as long as it doesn't fee like it's gonna break when I put it down on the table. You're blackleaf is not crappy, and is probably pretty decent, but it is Chinese and is probably made with a slightly lower quality of boroscillate glass then most blowers in America use. As others have mentioned the little imperfections come from the fact that these things are mass produced in China and the glass blowers don't put as much time or effort into individual pieces. Also I think you can imagine that there quality control isn't as thorough as a company that charges 300+ dollars for bongs. There is a reason that people buy really nice pieces, because at the end of the day they are nicer quality. How much better quality are they and are they worth it? That's.a whole other topic. But personally I would say that there are a lot of pieces that are 200-1000 dollars that are worth how much they're priced at and are a lot nicer than your blackleaf, in my opinion. I'm not saying that to be a dick and brag that I have better glass than you because it's not a competition and I don't need to brag to anonymous people online. I'm just stating my honest opinion, and it's very possible that I'm bias and justifying spending money on glass, however I think there is some truth to what I'm saying. Like in all markets there are a lot of pieces, even from very well respected companies, that are overpriced and not worth buying. Im sure there are tons of pieces out there that are 500+ dollars came have less diffusion than your piece and there is a reason for that as well. First off, some people buy pieces for more than diffusion and look for artistic elements, which tend to be very expensive cause working glass takes a lot of time and effort. Another thing is that some people want very high quality glass that doesn't have a lot of diffusion, which is very common for oil. Some of the most expensive pieces I've seen are heady rigs. But trust me there are tons of pieces like a stem 8 or a double stereo matrix that probably have smoother hits than your black leaf. Lastly, there are pieces that's are highly overpriced and don't provide that much more diffusion then cheaper disc Percs which are very easy to make and hard to fuck up. Once again just my two cents from what I've experienced. You can listen to me or ignore, but at the end of the day I'm sure we'll both get high as fuck.


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  14. Yes, thank you for stating a great opinion without attacking lol. The only real imperfections I've noticed with my black leaf bong is that it's a little top heavy, thicker glass on the top half which I was disappointed by a little. The only thing I'm worried about with it is one of the discs popping out of place while I'm swishing water around in it. One of my good friends had this 500 dollar bong (can't remember what brand) but it had thick glass, a 3 arm tree perc and an ashcatcher and additional percs. He left the ash catcher and percs in the bong to sit over night for ONE night and goes to pull them out the next morning and the whole ashcatcher and downstem and part of the beaker base shattered. Talk about a waste of money.
     
  15. I'd rather pay $100 for 2x/3x honeycomb thats hits smooth enough for me than having to dish out $500 for something that would satisfy me the same. I'm also scared I would turn into a huge dick if I bought a quality piece lol
     
  16. #17 Sparky 6, Jun 16, 2014
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    According to the evidence that is a huge risk haha.  I have a jhanpixel piece that has a honeycomb going to that cyclone type disk and I love it.  I think two honeycombs might be better but at the time I was concerned with drag.  Anyway, before I bought it I read that some honeycombs work well and others less so, therefore I imagine it comes down to the individual example and purchasing should be done on evidence and trust of the name.
     
    Your Black Leaf might not ever make you popular with the glass nerds around here but is that why you bought it?  You know it hits well, and that's what matters.  If you are careful with it most of everything else will never factor in.  Enjoy it!!
     
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    Same here :bongin:
    In my personal opinion the effects of glass either USA made or not are simple the same thing :yay:
     
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  18. listen to cky, he can come off harsh but knows his shit.
     
  19. Ignore CKY. Some people just want to act like their OPINION is the only right one. I've seen great quality honeycomb percs on glass such as a maverick piece as well as low quality China glass. At the end of the day, the only persons opinion that matters regarding your smoking piece is your own.

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