New MMJ Bill after the committee http://www.startribune.com/lifestyle/health/259408771.html Basically this one allows 8 dispensaries at least and 2 manufacturing facilities It would be nice if they would add intractable pain as a condition because then I could become an MMJ patient!
I suspect a lot will change as they move through the rule-making process. They don't seem to understand that vaporizing oils is WAY more intoxicating than a few hits on the bong.
that's true to a certain extent. you could get just as "intoxicated" by taking a few more hits or a longer hit from an herbal vape. using both oil vape and herbal vape, i can get to the same level. i'd say it really depends on the dosage. granted oil is by default my concentrated ... so if you took a hit the size of a nice bong rip from an oil pen (somehow)... you'd probably start questioning reality. also consider that oils can be used orally and applied topically. i'm not sure of the list of conditions it could be prescribed for, but i believe it's been noted to help topically with sever cases of psoriasis.
The conditions that it provides entry to the system with are, ironically, conditions which typically the most expeditious relief would come from smoking. They're mostly variations on spacsticity. This bill in no way effectively serves the conditions its outlined to help with. And in keeping with a medical mindset, people are not necessarily looking to get "intoxicated." Using a vape is most definitely a different experience, and most likely have no experience with oils and if they even help their condition.
I'll remember that as I'm sitting in a chemo chair every 8 weeks getting my crohns meds dripped into me.
you just have to find something to argue about are you saying that smoking is better than vaping for medical purposes now?... in other words you claim that for some things you actually need the process of combustion to ingest your meds? yes, most medical users will not have experience with the herb or a vape or an oil concentrate... unless they were illegal users in the first place, then i'm sure they'll figure out how to use an oil vape.
Oh yes, and it may as well be something so meaningless as my health and well-being?? You twit. This is peoples' lives you're talking about.
you are correct, now please educate me and the general public about how smoking is better than vaping for medical users. i'd love to hear this. p.s. your trolling is making you looking utterly dumb.
I think floating-by is correct in this case. From my understanding some of the CBD isn't obtained through the lower vaping temperatures.
Oh becuse your a dr and know your self. Lol. We will never be able to find out what is best for patients with lame bills like this. Why would they need to do research on the benefits of smoking when it's not allowed. Staring to really show who's side your are on.
No. Different compounds release at various temps. All that are released below combustion point (about 450 F) are covered by vaporizing. Phytocannabinoids, their boiling points, and properties delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) Boiling point: 157*C / 314.6 degree Fahrenheit Properties: Euphoriant, Analgesic, Antiinflammatory, Antioxidant, Antiemetic cannabidiol (CBD) Boiling point: 160-180*C / 320-356 degree Fahrenheit Properties: Anxiolytic, Analgesic, Antipsychotic, Antiinflammatory, Antioxidant, Antispasmodic Cannabinol (CBN) Boiling point: 185*C / 365 degree Fahrenheit Properties: Oxidation, breakdown, product, Sedative, Antibiotic cannabichromene (CBC) Boiling point: 220*C / 428 degree Fahrenheit Properties: Antiinflammatory, Antibiotic, Antifungal cannabigerol (CBG) Boiling point: MP52 Properties: Antiinflammatory, Antibiotic, Antifungal ?-8-tetrahydrocannabinol (?-8-THC) Boiling point: 175-178*C / 347-352.4 degree Fahrenheit Properties: Resembles ?-9-THC, Less psychoactive, More stable Antiemetic tetrahydrocannabivarin (THCV) Boiling point: < 220*C / <428 degree Fahrenheit Properties: Analgesic, Euphoriant Terpenoid essential oils, their boiling points, and properties ß-myrcene Boiling point: 166-168*C / 330.8-334.4 degree Fahrenheit Properties: Analgesic. Antiinflammatory, Antibiotic, Antimutagenic ß-caryophyllene Boiling point: 119*C / 246.2 degree Fahrenheit Properties: Antiinflammatory, Cytoprotective (gastric mucosa), Antimalarial d-limonene Boiling point: 177*C / 350.6 degree Fahrenheit Properties: Cannabinoid agonist?, Immune potentiator, Antidepressant, Antimutagenic linalool Boiling point: 198*C / 388.4 degree Fahrenheit Properties: Sedative, Antidepressant, Anxiolytic, Immune potentiator pulegone Boiling point: 224*C / 435.2 degree Fahrenheit Properties: Memory booster?, AChE inhibitor, Sedative, Antipyretic 1,8-cineole (eucalyptol) Boiling point: 176*C / 348.8 degree Fahrenheit Properties: AChE inhibitor, Increases cerebral, blood flow, Stimulant, Antibiotic, Antiviral, Antiinflammatory, Antinociceptive a-pinene Boiling point: 156*C / 312.8 degree Fahrenheit Properties: Antiinflammatory, Bronchodilator, Stimulant, Antibiotic, Antineoplastic, AChE inhibitor a-terpineol Boiling point: 217-218*C / 422.6-424.4 degree Fahrenheit Properties: Sedative, Antibiotic, AChE inhibitor, Antioxidant, Antimalarial terpineol-4-ol Boiling point: 209*C / 408.2 degree Fahrenheit Properties: AChE inhibitor. Antibiotic p-cymene Boiling point: 177*C / 350.6 degree Fahrenheit Properties: Antibiotic, Anticandidal, AChE inhibitor Flavonoid and phytosterol components, their boiling points, and properties apigenin Boiling point: 178*C / 352.4 degree Fahrenheit Properties: Anxiolytic, Antiinflammatory, Estrogenic quercetin Boiling point: 250*C / 482 degree Fahrenheit Properties: Antioxidant, Antimutagenic, Antiviral, Antineoplastic cannflavin A Boiling point: 182*C / 359.6 degree Fahrenheit Properties: COX inhibitor, LO inhibitor ß-sitosterol Boiling point: 134*C / 273.2 degree Fahrenheit Properties: Antiinflammatory, 5-a-reductase, inhibitor __________________
"lower vaping" temperatures... which you are planning to achieve by high temperature of combustion. this makes a shit-ton of sense. i am not a doctor. but i do have an ounce of common sense. first there are thousands of medical users today who vape very successfully. secondly any sort of combustion creates harmful byproducts. if you went to high school you probably learned that in your first chemistry class. (but you can google that). speaking of googlin' you chart is so pointless... that you've just pretty much proven yourself wrong. any of your listed substances (if we were even to somehow think that this chart has some value in real life) are released through heating and are below the point of combustion. so what's your point again, doc?
The list was to show how much changes with in such little temp change. Who knows what the benifits of low heat will do. Guess we will never find out.
dude are you seriously that clueless? let me explain again.... people, medical users, vape all the time. we are well aware of the benefits. you don't need a medical study to know what's better. you just need to purchase a vaporizer.