Christ And The Perfect Creation

Discussion in 'Religion, Beliefs and Spirituality' started by Thejourney318, May 2, 2014.

  1. God is the perfect creator. Creation is of the mind, therefore God is the perfect mind. That is to say, his only conception is perfection. That is why God defines perfection, and why he can only create perfection. That is to say he can only conceive of perfection, and therefore only perceive perfection. Yet man was created with the will and power to create as well, because we are extensions of the divine mind, projections of his own will.
     
    All imperfection is our own creation. We conceive of imperfection, and then we perceive imperfection. Yet God, who defines reality, does not acknowledge its existence. This makes it illusory, because it is only held together in your own mind, as personal projection. To lose all negative conceptions in your mind, to be left only with a combination of space and positivity/love, is to be equal to the Christ, which is the realized Son, which is the one essence of all of us.
     
    The Son is the sum total. We are the Son because of our minds, with which we create, in a process similar, if not one and the same, with the Divine creation of the Universe. We are creations of God, yet we create. This is the meaning of the Son, which is the personification and embodiment of this idea. Christ is the radiation of love and positivity within the presence of space, without anything opposing this energy. Whatever mind is of such a nature, he is Christ, and his mind is identical to the Divine Mind.

     
  2. We are the son of man. We are fallen in a sense, bound to a limited physical existence at the whim of destiny of Which our free is unable to fully overpower.

    Read the poimandres of hermes and see the true doctrine of christ in a far brighter light.
     
  3. We are made in God's image so I bet he has a dark side too.
     
  4. #4 semprfidelis, May 3, 2014
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    I'm not trying to start a debate here I just gotta get it off my chest but I don't think a perfect creator floods the earth killing everyone.. And he really has some design flaws making everything on earth want to kill us.

    But what you said was well said
     
  5. Words put together to make vague and nebulous concepts. Then use that as a premise to base conclusions off of
     
  6. #6 Thejourney318, May 3, 2014
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    I don't suggest that everything in the bible is literally true. And I would not say everything on earth wants to kill us. In fact, I believe, and seems to be true based on some experience, that animals in general don't just attack for no reason whatsoever. I also feel they are very sensitive to emotions and things like that. If you're calm and non-threatening, they will likely be the same.

    And thank you. You know, there are different viewpoints that appeal to me. For a long time my primary viewpoint was one of ultimate unity, undifferentiated in actual reality. I thought all viewpoints were equally valid in that they were neither true nor untrue ultimately, and in that sense all things are equal in an ultimate sense. Eventually, this became paralyzing in terms of me expressing myself, because for me to assert any viewpoint would technically be contradicting my viewpoint. I haven't written about spiritual things much for quite a while, or had those thoughts possess me to the degree they used to. Now I'm just letting my inspiration guide me, and right now these idea of mind-based positive reality in the context of the Christ figure is what is inspiring me. I'm allowing myself to explore these ideas in their own context, without ultimately being absolutely attached to these ideas being 'ultimately true' at the exclusion of other viewpoints.

    Perhaps a bit of a tangent, but yea...lol
     
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    You don't have to bet, just read His book to learn all about his favorite past time of infanticide 
     
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    yep everybody goes through that stage when they are 19-22
     
    If you review your post history you'll see many people tried to tell you this
     
  9. #9 Thejourney318, Jun 24, 2014
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    I'm not sure that it's true that every 19-22 year old goes through an intense non-duality phase...non-dual eastern esotericism isn't exactly a mainstream ideology in America...
     
  10. OP, you forgot to start your post with "IMO" or "i believe that..."
     
      Please do not gender your god and then tell eveybody you know this as fact. I personally think you are religiously psychotic.
     
  11. whatever, just gimme the damn wafer & a sip of jesus juice and I'll go sit back down
     
  12. #12 Thejourney318, Jun 24, 2014
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    When did I say I know this is a fact? I don't even have a belief system I definitely believe in. I just allow myself to explore various ideologies as I am inspired to, which I can't properly do if I'm qualifying every single statement on the topic. In my second post in this thread I explained that I wasn't attempting to make an absolute assertion at the exclusion of other viewpoints, but rather just exploring an idea. If exploring an idea that I don't even necessarily 'really' believe makes me psychotic, then there it is I guess, lol, but my primary enjoyment in life is the free exploration of all sorts of spiritual ideas...sooo I'm gonna keep doing that...
     
  13. Therefore I apologise for jumping the gun. My bad.
     
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    yes your so special
     
    It can be boiled down to extreme relativism and that school of thought takes many more forms then the pre-conceived boxes you;ve placed on it
     
  15. #15 A AnoesisOrange, Jun 24, 2014
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    At least he's well articulated. :laughing:
     
  16. God/All/Presence/Source..whatever you label it as,... IS Love...Sounds cliche...Love practices action though. You've heard 'love is a verb' Those actions are carried out through people, already being born with that Spirit. The 'IS'. Many people need something to identify with ...a medium...conduit....whatever... to get them there.  
     
    It is a starting point-doesn't mean it's not true. Christ (His ideas/what He communicated directly) showed that people have this Spirit of Love, and It is within us.....It is 'at hand' ...and we should use It to help others...similar to what Buddhism teaches-That we are already 'Buddhas', and showing compassion is the ultimate goal to lead all beings..etc. There is nothing to create/manufacture. It is already there.These views are just a different way to get to this realization.
     
    Doesn't mean there has to be any dogmatic slavery/rules added to the mix, from any belief system. That is from Man. The bad things that happen in this world are caused by Man's human nature..Greed, power, control-...all of that shit.
     
    Live the way you want and see how it works out. If it doesn't make sense to you, don't go there-from Buddha's words. I struggled for a long time thinking I needed to focus on one way or another. It's not true. Relationship is characterized as personal for a reason.
     
    All this, of course, is my opinion...It's all anybody's statements can be when you talk about things like this. I have added 'imo' to my posts sometimes, but decided that's a given...Maybe we should put 'This is my opinion when discussing philosophy and spiritual matters' in all our sigs?   :laughing:
     
  17. Products of the mind. All conceptualization is limited conceptualization.

    What is there? Actually there? When there is no self and we recognize emptiness.

    It's so hard to get there.
     
  18. because you are not supposed to ..... :smoke:
    thats not part of this seen....
     
    it is however part of the distraction to get you over to the snack bar for more chemically treated snacks... :eek:
    (i would hope statements like this make it apparent the shit i am saying is just some shit i am saying :smoke: even if it does in ways represent my thoughts and feelings on the subject... i have no need to be right about it.. oh wait fuck... i was supposed to shorten all that down to IMO :smoke: ) fuck..maybe the hypergraphia creeping in a bit ...
     
  19. Just want everyone to sit back and contemplate on this
     
    there are about a trillion diffrent proceses going on in the water/air/land and space and the galaxy all going on and off at just the right time just the perfect ammount of gravity/sunlight and rain.the dam planet even has billion diffrent taste's for the billion diffrent taste buds.
     
    If even ONE,1 just one of those proceses or creative design's were to go off wrong,None of us could suvive.and yet this planet is suposed to be a curse of thorns and thistles"it's suposed to be a punishment".If your moon was out of place by just 3 degrees earth would not have the perfect ballance of gravity if the ten of thousands of bugs were not crawling all throughout your skin and body .you wouldnt live.and you deffinetly would not be partaking of his perfect plants that we all have come to love.
     
    Ive never in my 37 years of life seen an explosion create anything perfect.If you really have that much Faith in the fairy tale evolution then why didnt you just believe what the government said about weed? oh you listened to past civilizations and thought for yourself.well start thinking for yourself.
     
    Have you've ever seen an explosion create anything besides a mess? let alone perfection? and think about this, if there is a god that is telling you, your going to go to hell why would you want to believe in him? noone wants to believe in god anymore, not really, it's too scary to believe it's easier to just believe that your never going to have to pay for your foul deeds esp if your a politician :p but too many perfect proceses exist for me to believe anything else.
     
  20. I don't know wtf your saying, but it's probably wise in some way or something :p
     

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