Hello, I have been smoking weed for quite some time now but have never owned a decent bong. Most of the time I would roll one up or use my small portable vape (arizer solo). The only bong I have is a black ceramic one I bought a few years back very cheap. I am looking to buy a bong which will provide me with a big yet really smooth hit. I would prefer it being glass and transparent but it doesnt really matter. I mostly toke on hash nowadays and I want to drop around 200$ I wouldn't mind going up to 300 but the cheaper the better as long as it doesn't impact performance/quality. I see all these different types with perculators, honeycombs , double coil ect... and I am honestly lost. Don't know what I should buy and if I should get accesories for it. Could someone help me making an informed choice?
Big and smooth? Get a 9 mm beaker bottom. All that glass absorbs heat, is unbreakable, and allows you to chamber massive rips. Percs? Don't matter. They're simply for looks / "wow factor".Downstem alone is good enough for diffusion. IMO get percs to achieve the drag you want in the tube system. Alternately, if you have big lungs, you can look at "fat" tubes. Their volume alone cools smoke because it makes it so un-dense.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but "unbreakable" beaker bottoms? Percs are "simply for looks"? I don't know about all that.
Yeah man I got you. If you can keep your budget around 3, maybe a little higher, your options open up tremendously. Do you have any idea what your looking for? What are you smoking? You said flower and hash? Is "flavor" and "taste" preservation more important than "smoothness" to you? Aka how much diffusion do you desire? Any info you can get me will help.
Yeah that's pretty much it, flower and hash but mostly hash. Taste preservation isn't important at all. I would rather have insane smoothness and no flavor than the opposite.. I'm looking for one that won't leave my appartment. So it's size doesn't matter. Ty
Okay I would stay away from accessories, at least initially. Only buy accessories after you own something and find the need for it. Since you desire smoothness, I would look into carbon filters, they make hits really smooth. Look into stemless pieces. That way you don't need a downstem and it allows for more complex percs. I would look into one or 2 chamber pieces. Anymore than 2 will be expensive and add more drag. And honestly, the first pass thru water takes the brunt of the work, anymore than that is just preference. For one chambered pieces, I would look into dave goldstein. It has a good amount of drag, but makes hits really smooth. Other single chambers would be sgw waffle v2, efs donut, sovereignty gline/stemline/kingline, apix stemline, stuff like that. The double chamber pieces will be more expensive, but since smoothness is important you may want to consider them. Or if you find a good single stage piece, maybe you can get a ashcatcher for it later on. I would look thru glass sites like aqualab or badassglass or brotherswithglass and see what's in your price range and what tickles your fancy. And when you find those pieces try to look up function videos on youtube and read reviews about them to make a more informed decision. Ill be around, get back at me.
I'm glad to see you had some time to cool down and edit your post. I don't "talk shit" on the internet man, not my style. And believe it or not, I am here to help. I told you everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and I happened to think you have a point in this quote "IMO get percs to achieve the drag you want in the tube system.Alternately, if you have big lungs, you can look at "fat" tubes. Their volume alone cools smoke because it makes it so un-dense. " That's good advice and a cool thought to entertain. But regarding the rest of your post, no glass is unbreakable. If you want to believe otherwise, then whatevs man. Secondly, if you think that a second level of filtration is unnecessary, then that's cool, I can feel that. I have a straight tube too. But op said smoothness is most important to him, and imo, he won't find that in a straight tube or beaker bottom. That's just my opinion. And I'm only giving it to help and instigate conversation. And this is a counter culture internet forum, you should get used to people disagreeing with you from time to time..
Heh, one shouldn't post if you havn't smoked in a few days in conjunction with no food for 24 hours and no sleep for 48. Creates a person I don't like. The main point I was making about the percs is that specific perc to perc, they don't matter all that much. Second filtration further slows and cools the smoke; no argument there. Oh, but avoid cheap tree percs. In that case, type of perc DOES matter. Nothing like setting your bong down a little quickly and watching your tree drop its branches...
Hey no worries man, if I was under those circumstances I would be a monster. I'm glad we worked thru and got passed all that. I couldn't agree with you more on the cheap trees. They are frail by nature and not all trees are the same. Some blowers reinforce the trees while others do not. And you do have a point about simplicity. More shit just means something else to go wrong or break. That's why I recommended stemless pieces. Plus a stemless will offer a better single stage perc than a just a downstem. And if I'm understanding correctly, what your saying that a second perc is just a second perc? Like it doesn't matter if its a this or a that, it still does the same thing?. If that's the case, you may be right. You could say that with a lot of things. But if op desires a second perc, then we should consider that not all second percs are simply second percs in the hopes of helping him make a better decision.
I was at the bar last night, so ill try to make my post a little more clear. You have single stage like Dave goldstein Apix stemline Sov stemline/gline/kingstem Efs donut Sgw waffle v2 And many others like that Then there's single stage, but with design features that make the bubbles stay bubbles longer, like Dave goldstein double disc Hitman ratchet Defi circ turbine Apix stem to disc Sov gline to imperial Olympic horizon helix Stuff like that. Then you have multiple percs pieces, which there are too many to name. Mostly that will come down to what brand you like and what you can afford. Always opt for quality, I don't believe all glass is created equally.
So I have been looking around and I think I have decided what kind of setup I am looking to build. Thanks for all the suggestions btw and the help. I think I want to go with a stemless bong that has a double honeycomb perc, splash guard and ice catcher. I would like to atach a ashcatcher with something like a 8 arm perc tree. Then I would add on top of that a carbon filter. What do you guys think of this kind of setup? From what I have seem this might have quite a drag... but it really depends on the indivual parts put together. From what I have seen there is probably a way to get a combination of these parts that will not create a significant drag and at the same time creating an incredibly smooth hit. Also, I haven't really found anything like this on the websites you suggested T-o-W-e-r and I'll be honest I have no clue what brand is good glass and what is cheap glass.... so many conflicting opinions on the net. As for example some people rave about the thickqualityglass bongs and other say they are crap. Same goes for black leaf and such.. Since you seem to know your stuff what brand do you think should I go with to build this setup? As I said I am willing to go to 300$ and even more if it is really worth it. ty
based on what ive gathered, i think you can benefit from getting a carbon filter. it makes it much smoother. for ashcatchers i would find a piece you want first, then decide if an ashcatcher is worth it to you. you may be happy with just the piece. i would also add that i think ashcatchers will best serve on a single stage piece, itll add too much drag on a multiple percd piece and idk if i would recommend tree percd ashcatchers, theyre frail, id get a circ or something like these https://nvsglassworks.com/?page_id=4225 http://grasscity.com/glass-accessories/ash-catchers/hvy-glass-90-showerhead-ash-catcher-18-mm.html http://grasscity.com/glass-accessories/ash-catchers/boro-farm-90-showerhead-ash-catcher-18-mm.html i would definitely go with a 18mm stemless, that will get you the best possible airflow and more powerful percs. have you found a brand that makes a double honeycomb piece you like? i dont have much experience with them but imo i think you can do better http://youtu.be/spX47UiG330 see when the smoke just passes the stem, it like hiccups as it goes to the honeycomb? that would cause a lot of chug and drag. and see how the honeycomb doesnt fire all that evenly? i had a friend who bought a honeycomb from a lhs, and it sucked. i swear that only like 2 of the holes in his honeycomb fired.. so not all honeycombs are created equally. then see how much drag that piece had? the bubbles barely got passed the second honeycomb from a normal strength pull. just something to consider. welcome to the wonderful world of glass porn this is sovereignty gline. single stage, but very little drag. this would be good with an ashcatcher http://youtu.be/LKhD8OgzMwo http://youtu.be/HkA0EcfT4j0 heres some more sovereignty, a defi, and a efs donut - some video of single stage with ashcatchers or good with ashcatchers http://youtu.be/b-UsJHZkppI http://youtu.be/5FnNToJfevc http://youtu.be/ww1CaLdqzJs this is sgw waffle v2 with another perc above it. you could just get it w/o the 2nd perc, and get an ashcatcher later http://youtu.be/dIn-dj70E5I this is apix glass. it is a good example of the 1 water stage pieces that do a lot with the 1 pass. see how long the bubbles stay bubbles? http://youtu.be/Lu8SpZNn3Dw overall i think i would recommend something like this http://grasscity.com/scientific-glass/stone-glass-works-single-waffle-perc-tube-v2.html or this http://grasscity.com/scientific-glass/sovereignty-glass/sovereignty-50-x-5-straight-with-g-line-blue.html with this https://nvsglassworks.com/?page_id=4225 and this http://grasscity.com/glass-accessories/carbon-filters/mcfinn-s-standard-carbon-filter-adapter-18-mm.html
Thank you for the info. I think i am going to settle on the setup you proposed but as far as the glass I will go with this one : http://grasscity.com/scientific-glass/dave-goldstein-glass/dave-goldstein-16-straight-with-fritted-disc-perc.html I have seen many videos on youtube of it and it is simply amazing.
Yeah, I was. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kevg1A6LEAA This setup + the ashcatcher.. should be really smooth
That video showed a few points I wanted to make. That particular piece is rather tall, I don't think he made them any taller than that. On mine, which is just smaller, after you put the adapter/carbon/bowl, its right under your nose. So make sure you get the tall model of the goldstein and the small model of the mcfinns carbon filter, all for clearance. I always thought it was a bummer that the dg was direct inject.. I hate that adapter but its a necessary evil for flowers. Its going to make everything sit higher. And fyi, since your using carbon you won't have to use the glass screens that come with the piece (they prevent suck thru). The dave goldsteins performance depends on how hard you pull. The harder you suck, the greater the fireworks.. So your going to want a good bowl that helps prevent suck thru, like a ben wilson bowl that has a built in screen. When I'm hitting it, I like to get the pull going then light the bowl, it makes it stack better imo. But, the more stacking = more filtration = piece gets dirtier faster There's a price for everything.. Which ashcatcher did you decide on?