Growing in a pine forest

Discussion in 'Growing Marijuana Outdoors' started by Cetyal, Apr 11, 2014.

  1. Is there any possible way to be able to grow near pine?
     I know that it is not good to grow because pine needles can make the soil to acidic.

    Is there any product that i could use to be able to keep the soil stable in a pine forest?
     

     
  2. powdered dolomite lime
    mj likes acidic soils to an extent so adding lime will be good enough even if you got pines around, just careful that the sun isn't blocked. I'd prefer 3 plants in an open space with full sun than 20 hidden inside a forest.
     
  3. How much dolomite lime should be used to balance it?
     
  4. Im currently building an organic soil all sourced from spruce/pine forest, I think lime would be the right move. If you dig up the soil around to mix for a hole with the right amount it should be good. Is their good moss layer in this forest? Treat it as if was peat moss.

    Read up on general gardening in your forest conditions, it will tell you roughly what you should do to make your soil optimum for the kinds of plants your growing. Or how to achieve the PH range needed. In this case cannabis but PH applys to all plants the same way I belive.

    Hope that helps.
     
  5. #5 Corto Malteze, Apr 13, 2014
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    5-10 pounds per plant at the very bottom of the hole/pot is good enough
    Also within the soil mix (extra pound per plant for 20 gallons of soil)
    Lime won't hurt even if you add a little too much. You can over do it and stop the plant's growth (nute block) or what not but in those ranges it'll be fine
     
  6. It depends on the kind of lime!
    Some are fast acting, you want something slow release amd to act as a buffer.
     
  7. It depends on what kind of pines we're talking about, as far as soil conditions go. There is a wide variety of soil conditions for different species and subspecies. It would be fun and beneficial to know a bit about the wildlife in the area of your grow, because you can learn so much about conditions without using any high priced soil test kits. 
     
    An example would be the location I've chosen for the summer. Nestled along the edge of a hemlock forest between streams. By knowing the names of the most abundant trees and ground cover, I was able to do research and learned that the hemlocks in the area prefer soil pH within Cannabis' range as well. Also, they like well-drained loamy soils, and are intolerant of draught so the soil will never dry out enough to stress the plants. 
     
    Another benefit is knowing if you are working around any endangered species. In my case, the hemlock, I need be extremely cautious not to disturb the ecosystem because I am intruding on THEIR space, and I need to respect that and proceed with caution when digging and trampling about. Also, knowing that the hemlock is protected means loggers, in my area anyway, will not be trudging through anytime soon. Which is a big industry in my region. 
     
    So, moral of the story, do your research! Collect samples of pine needle fascicles (bunches or groups) and pay attention to the bark, go home with your samples and determine what you're growing among. Once you know what it is, look up what soil conditions they prefer, and also create when decomposing.
     
    I hope that helps, and I hope you take some time to learn more, and gain a growing respect the existing wildlife in the area!  :wave:
     
  8. #8 4ala2sk0a, Apr 13, 2014
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    Another thing to add is the soil is richest in spring when decomposition has boosted nutrient contents in the soil. In fall levels are down. So if you can get started before native plants take hold you could get a slight advantage
     
  9. I'm really bad at finding out what tree's what, but i know these pine trees are very popular in the southern Ontario region, not sure if that gives you any clues of which kind that might be.
    Wow i didn't know i'd need that much dolomite lime to be able to grow it in a pine forest.
    In my region most forests are pine, with some normal trees, i will try to find a area where there is a better ratio of normal trees:pine trees because i know pine will create a problem

    @[member="CanAbyss"] Thanks for the advice man, i am pretty sure that around my area is fine and i don't think that deforestation is planned at all because its right by a river which is the main river of the town. The soil i was digging in in the forest was VERRY aerated and nice, found tons of worms and i think i might take that soil to use and mix it with potting soil because it was moist and everything even in this time of year!
     

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