First Timer - Closet Grow 14

Discussion in 'Indoor Grow Journals' started by dankuverymuch, Apr 6, 2014.

  1. Eyyy folks,
     
    Have just recently begun my own closet grow.  Have never done anything like this before so I'm hella pumped and a little anxious to see the results.  I'm growing 2 Northern Lights and 1 mango kush.  They're growing about an inch a day (it's been 3 days now).
     
    My setup is pretty compact.  Got a 300w lamp powering the whole setup with a carbon filter and fan.  While my setup isn't huge, I'm hoping it will provide me with some nice dense buds!
     
    I have a couple questions
    1) The woman at the dispensary suggested that I flip the plant after 7 days because of my setup's height limitations (it's only 3 ft tall). Does this seem accurate or should I allow it 24/7 light for a longer duration?
     
    2) Currently using dyna-gro nutrients.  Any other supplements that would produce dankier buds?
     
    3) Can I turn the fan off when the light isn't on? Smell isn't a problem yet obviously.
     
    4) I'm worried about ambient noise pollution from the setup.  It produces about 35 decibels of ambient noise.  How do you other growers deal with your bedroom grow setup?
     
    5) Can I have my fan pull through the carbon filter to prevent smell or should it be blowing the dank air into it?
     
    Thanks!
     

     

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  2. Bumpness.  Wheres da luv??
     
  3. nice tent setup bub, keep the updates up
     
  4. #4 snoopdog6502, Apr 8, 2014
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    1) The woman at the dispensary suggested that I flip the plant after 7 days because of my setup's height limitations (it's only 3 ft tall). Does this seem accurate or should I allow it 24/7 light for a longer duration?
     
    She is right. you can low stress train if it gets tall.
     
    2) Currently using dyna-gro nutrients.  Any other supplements that would produce dankier buds?
     
    not sure, dont use brand name at all.
     
    3) Can I turn the fan off when the light isn't on? Smell isn't a problem yet obviously.
    yes.
     
    4) I'm worried about ambient noise pollution from the setup.  It produces about 35 decibels of ambient noise.  How do you other growers deal with your bedroom grow setup?
     
    I have air pumps for hydro that make more noise under my bedroom, you get used to it.
     
    5) Can I have my fan pull through the carbon filter to prevent smell or should it be blowing the dank air into it?
     
    yes pull through the filter>cooltube>fan>clean air out...
     
    good luck man.
     
  5. #5 dankuverymuch, Apr 9, 2014
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    Thanks for the feedback so far guys.
     
    The clones are growing strong.  Going to flip them in 2 days.  Can't wait to see some buds!  I have a few more questions too.
     
    1) When should I start training them to grow upward? How exactly should I tie them up to train them?
     
    2) When the plants are starting to bloom, will smell become a problem?  I have a pretty powerful fan with a carbon filter that should hopefully solve the problem but I'm not 100% sure.
     
    The mango kush (img_2562) seems to be loving the hot temps.  The leaves are pristine and healthy.  Just a happy plant altogether.
     
    The Northern Lights, however, I'm a bit unsure about it.  If you view the second pic (IMG_0178), you'll see that the leaves are starting to curl slightly upward.  My cousin told me that some strains of weed have naturally drier leaves and are prone to such things but I just wanted to be sure!
     

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  6. #6 dankuverymuch, Apr 17, 2014
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    Plants are still in their 18/6 vegging phase.  They've grown quite a bit... almost 9 inches in height now! 2 of the plants are exhibiting yellow leaves at the bottom but I ordered a new medium for them, along with a PH kit, which I'm hoping should solve the problem. (props to mr. president for prescribing this dank solution!)
     
    I'm also planning on attempting an LST grow..bought some big ass paperclips to help me with this.
     
    Anyways, what do you guys think by looking at the plants?? (Note that the last 2 pics are the plants with the yellowing leaf problem)
     

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  7. Yeah dude, I think its safe to call that improper pH. We'll see though what happens when you change everything up. Wow those are taller than I suspected. I might have been a good idea to top or fim about 1 node ago, but that's okay. Hopefully your stuff comes in soon so you can start LST asap. You're going to have a lot of green if all goes well haha
     
  8. Shit I'm subbed. Let's see how this goes. Haven't followed a grow in a while. Train the fuck out of those plants mate, you can get a fat harvest stuffed in that tent

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  9. @[member="nomad881"]
    Thanks for subbing! Hopefully I'll have a danky ol' outcome to show you guys 
     
    Damn, I'm anxious to get those PH levels fixed!  Just out of curiousity, what would happen if the PH levels went unchecked?  Would the plant suffer, die, or just lose the amount of yield it would normally give?
     
    Also, Mr. President, when using paperclips to do LST, do you stick the paperclips in the soil or do you attach them to the side of the pot with heat-resistant tape?
     
  10. Actually, there are a handful of people that have thrown seeds into soil and just water it every few days.. no ph, no nutes, no nothing. It can be done... but... the chances of everything maintaining a healthy environment for the entire term are small and there are a lot of stipulations. Hence, the handful analogy.

    Keeping the pH unchecked could lead to all the things you mentioned. It could very well suffer, you could be losing money! You buy all those nutes and your plant won't even absorb them because your soil is too acidic... which could lead to an unhealthy plant which could lead to a smaller yield than capable, or worse...

    I don't know if tape will work.. i'm sure a lot of tape would. The "Norm" i guess would be to make a hole at the top of your pot (something you can't do with your pots lol) and loop the paperclips through a few times... That's a pretty strong hold. Do you plan on buying new pots? If you are then you can get some plastic ones. I would get a pot that is more wide than it is deep simply because you're going to eventually have your plant laying down. In the pot you have now, if you were to LST, the overgrowth wouldn't be in the pot but would be hanging over the side.
     
  11. My pots are actually plastic  :hello: . Lmao I'm glad their terracotta look isn't so cheap.
     
    I'm guessing I can just use a hobby knife and cut into the places that I need the clips to be?
     
    Also, I'm kind of limited on my budget and i've already spent a lot so if I can avoid getting new pots that would be ideal :p.  Would there be any substantial negatives from having the plant hanging a bit? 
     
    When I replant them can I place them in the left side of the pot and train them to grow right so that it'll have more room?
     
  12. HAHA I Lol'd well that's cool then.... Yea just use a knife, make a cut that you're satisfied with that will fit your paperclip and you'll be golden


    I don't think there are any negatives for having her hang over a little...it just looks a little neater the other way and also a wider pot promotes root growth. The roots grow more outwards than downwards. I wouldn't plant her on the side of the pot. roots grow out to stabilize her.
     
  13. #13 dankuverymuch, Apr 18, 2014
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    So my PH tester and kit came today.
     
    I tested all the plants' soil and the Ph came to around 7.5!  A little high.  While I'm getting a new growing medium soon I wanna experiment with my current potting soil so I can get this process down.
     
    Surprisingly, one of the plants I tested (the one in the photo) has still thrived remarkably well under high PH conditions. Danky genetics I guess
     
    How should I apply the PH down?  I already watered the plants yesterday so I don't want to re-water them... Can I just give them a small amount of water with the PH down in it?  Also, how many drops should I add?  Is it 1 drop per .5 reduction in PH?
     
    Thanks again homies!!!!
     

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  14. I use a gallon jug to balance my water. Its something you really have to play around with to get the hang of it to be honest. Damn your soil is alkaline... That's high lol. I would wait for your new medium to come in to be honest... Any idea when it'll get here?

    If you wanna do it for practice anyways... Grab a gallon jug... Or a two liter... Balance it to say...5.0 and flush that through. Then retest your soil. It might come down to like.... 7 or close to it. You can flush through as much water as you want to get your soil where you want it.

    Key is... If its really high in alkaline, then you're going to have to flush something really acidic to balance out. Get what I mean?
     
  15. Hmm what do you mean by flush, pres?  Just like pour it through the pots and let the water run out through the seepage holes?
     
  16. Basically, yup. Water it until water comes out the bottom, just so you know all the medium got the balanced water. Do you have a water pH tester or just soil? Either is fine except all I have is a water tester so i test the water runoff and that tells me where my medium is pH wise. Just water until water comes out the bottom so you know all the medium got wet, then retest, and balance accordingly.

    Optimum level is between 5.5 - 6.5 although some would say 6.3 is best.


    Good luck dude... I'm here if you have anymore questions. Happy friday bro!
     
  17. I'm glad the presidential support hotline stays open on Fridays  :metal:  Happy friday to you too homie
     
    After some flushing..got the PH to around 6.0 based off the runoff...it seems the water tester gives more accurate readings than the soil one..
     
    I have another query..
     
    Is it bad to keep water on the leaves?  I water my plants with a small bottle and water sometimes splashes up and hits the lower ones.  I've heard this can lead to heat stress due to reflection from the light and I'm wondering if its part of the reason that the lower leaves on 2 of my plants are suffering...
     
  18. #18 Mr. President, Apr 19, 2014
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    Presidential support hotline lmao

    6.0..... Perfect in my book. And yea dude I'm not sure how to answer your question because sometimes I purposely spray the leaves with co2 enriched water from my fish tank with a spray bottle and I have never had a problem. But I'm also using CFL's so maybe that's the difference? What you're saying makes sense, but I just don't know bro... Maybe be a little more careful or gently dry the leaves off when you're done watering and see if it makes a difference?


    I would like to add.... Don't use a towel or anything to dry the leafs off. Gently shake the plant to get the excess water off. You won't get it all bit its a (sort of) natural way of doing it and the residual will dry up quick...or the plant will absorb it.
     
  19. #19 dankuverymuch, Apr 19, 2014
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    I literally read your post right before I was about to lightly dry my plants with a paper towel.. I'm glad I didn't lmao
     
    I can't tell if its in my head, but I believe that I can see the difference in plant health after correcting the PH levels after only a few hours.  My plants seem to have developed a greener hue and just seem happier and stronger(am I going crazy?).  To maintain this level, I would just have to keep watering the plants with 6.0ph water, right?
     
    But anyways, here's an update on the plants.  I swear, the 300w lamp makes them grow like little beasts every night.  They're almost 10 inches now.  I'm gonna be daring and vegg them for 2-3 more days..until I get to a foot..yolo
     
    Would it be too late for LST at this point? The large paper clips I ordered are due to be in tomorrow.
     
    Here are the plants:
     
    Mango Kush
    -Generally healthy
    -Yellowing of older, lower leaf
    IMG_2785.jpg
     
    Northern Lights #1
    -Generally healthy too
    -Few older, lower leaves are suffering..hopefully PH tuning fixed this
    IMG_6156.jpg
     
    NL #2!
    -completely healthy superhuman plant..don't know how its doing so well despite such high PH levels
    IMG_9661.jpg
     
  20. #20 Mr. President, Apr 19, 2014
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    Yea dude they do kind of seem a little more perked up compared to some of the first pics you posted. Its only going to get better from here.

    Which brings up my next thought. I was scrolling up to see your old pics and noticed some signs of heat stress. It started with the very first pics you posted. Did you happen to take those when she had just woken up from a nap? It appears as if a few of the top leafs are "cupping"... And then the lower leafs start turning yellow/ brown starting from the tips/ edges. Almost a sure sign of heat stress. You should keep a fan on them at all times... Even when the light is off... Your plant needs constant airflow to avoid heat spots.
     

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