Welfare should pay every person living wage, work for anything else

Discussion in 'Politics' started by ReturnFire333, Mar 31, 2014.

  1. #1 ReturnFire333, Mar 31, 2014
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    I think "welfare" should pay everyone a living wage, enough to rent or pay mortgage on a house, pay for food and water, and living utilities like laundry, and people should have to work if they want to make more money than that for other recreational things.
     
    Anyone who says they don't want their tax dollars going to that, would you rather your tax dollars keep going to predator missile strikes on innocent people?

     
  2. What is the source of this welfare living wage money? If everybody gets a house, without having to pay mortgages, then how will landlords make money? These and other questions must be answered, and since you started the thread maybe you can do so.
     
  3. #4 ReturnFire333, Mar 31, 2014
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    The source of the money is (much) better allocated tax and borrowed money. Everybody pays mortgage, they're just getting a "welfare" check that covers basic living expenses.
     
  4. Bake sale!!!
     
  5. #6 I Railed Hellen Keller, Mar 31, 2014
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    I completely agree I've been through some tough times myself and im standing in the grocery checkout line with store brand items and just tbe essentials and the lady in front of me is using her food stamp card buying every name brand thing you can think of and it just pisses me off that I work my ass off for what little I had and im also paying for this bitch too?

    There should be no incentive at all to receive assistance, but should be there for those who really need it.
     
  6. What do you mean by "everybody pays a mortgage". I don't pay a mortgage, and I'm damn well not ready to pay somebody else's, other than rent to the landlord of the structure that I live in.
     
  7. #8 ReturnFire333, Mar 31, 2014
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    What I meant is that people would be paying money normally for their living situation. They would apply for welfare which would assess how much money they needed per month for living expenses and "government" would mail each person a check in US dollars. No restriction on who can apply.
     
  8. There would have to be limits established for instance $1000 dollar maximum for mortgage payment, that way people couldn't apply for welfare to cover an expensive house, only basic living.
     
  9. Great idea, OP.  I think you should spend your life pursuing this.
     
    One the plus side, OP has started a topic on which garrison68 and I agree.  That is quite a feat.  :laughing:  Good for you, OP!
     
  10. I'll pass on that one, the question of who decides and assesses the numbers is never going to satisfy everybody. It just won't work, people will keep having children that they can't afford, and apply for more and more money.
     
  11. #12 morange, Mar 31, 2014
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    Life aint free dude. With that system what is going to create incentive for people to go above and beyond their 'welfare' check? There are people all over the world right now who are struggling day by day, and would literally consider their lives full and complete if they had what you are describing. I'm not saying that it would be a bad thing to have everybody to have these things, no, but there wouldn't be much of a reason to do the extra work and pay back your portion of what you're taking unless you want lots of material objects, which many do not care for.
     
    EDIT: I don't want my tax dollars going toward either. I want to keep my tax dollars, giving the govt money and paying them for what they are doing is not a good deal so far.
     
  12. On one hand here we have the Utopian socialists, on the other the Utopian libertarians - neither system of which works.
     
  13. #14 ReturnFire333, Mar 31, 2014
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    Well whoever decides how much money is allocated in social security seems to be doing a good job


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  14. If everybody was limited to one child, maybe it could work to some extent, but the one child rule would have to be strictly enforced.
     
  15. SS is based on how much you've paid into the system, not how much you "need" or how many children you've had.
     
  16. I do not think very many people would be able to spend all of their time at home. Also I agree taxation should be abolished, there is more than enough money already in circulation and borrowed that can pay for sustainable living.


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  17. #18 yurigadaisukida, Mar 31, 2014
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    where is the tax money comming from if people dont work?


    People who arent producing shouldnt be consuming.

    There should not be government aid programs to help people who are not working. Instead the aid programs should be geared towards getting people back into the workforce
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  18. Disability and the current welfare system are counter examples of that.


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