how is that even close to a conspiracy theory? its very simple, fundamental to our economic system, and its very well known and outlined. there has never been a cover up to try and hide the fact. so not a conspiracy.
I think they might be referring to the secrecy within the fed as described by the congressional hearing listed below: Does it guarantee a conspiracy, not necessarily however disturbing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4kxTkhwR_Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WV5mdGS_tkw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0NYBTkE1yQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8p0nBa866E <Recommended> Regarding Conspiracy Theory: I had always under the impression that the Gulf of Tonkin was a false flag operations. (Not Sure) I believe a recent document was release pentagon papers. ( I may be Wrong) Indicating that it was the US. maddox was the aggressor.
It's not a theory. And it's not very well known. Ask any American who the government owes debt to and NOT ONE will say we owe it to ourselves (the Fed) I've never learned this in school. It was never once mentioned in my accounting, business, or even my federal taxation class I'm in right now. A conspiracy is a secret plot by a group of people. And that's what this is. And how is it fundamental to our system? Before 1913,we had interest free money and we were doing fine. JFK signed an order to put interest free money into the system and he was assassinated.
it isn't a secret. like whatsoever....maybe you went to a shitty school or something (or happen to be many decades older than the average gc member) but i clearly remember the federal reserve being explained in the 7th grade, and again in highschool. and again in much more detail in my hs economics class. and again in even more detail on thousands of websites. i use fundamental as a noun in this case, as it is extremely central to the system. i do not think debt incurring currency is necessary, but it is fundamental to our monetary system. i was asking more for conspiracies that were covered up and later revealed.
I went to great schools in a metropolitan area. They never once told me money = debt. I was never told that a reserve note is actually a promisry note to the Fed. I was a an A-B student. Education is nothing. All it does it teach us to remember and repeat and follow orders. They would never teach us something such corrupt
that surprises the hell out of me, it really does. im surprised any economics or politics class didnt feature the federal reserve as one of their topics. although to be fair, most promissory notes include interest. pretty much all unless you make a contract with your mother or something. i highly disagree with your view of education though. while it may hold a ring of truth to those so unintelligent they only learn what they are taught....all knowledge is valuable. even wrong information can be used to further your understanding.
Honestly I'm being truthful. And if you have a mindset of everything is fine Vs something is wrong. Both sides will stop at nothing to prove them wrong. It's like one religion trying to win over another. No one will win. I will say this though, it is said that it is easier to fool someone than to convince them they've been fooled.
oh i totally believe that you werent taught it. im not doubting that. i just find it really really odd that it wasnt covered. but i dont think the fed is trying to fool you. in regards to debt based currency theyre surprisingly transparent. people have known since we went off the gold standard and have been bitching since.
Think about it for a sec, what stops people from telling the truth.. the fact some elite corprate fuck will hire some nutjob to carry out the dirty work... and the nutjob never fails. if they told you theyl lock you in a room unable to speak to your family again...
that....or there simply isnt any truth being covered up and some "whistleblower" wants fame/money/attention.
That's the thing about whistle-blowers. They could be wrong, or right, but it doesn't matter what they reveal because they know no matter what people will think they're lying and govt will speak out against them. So what motivates to tell the truth if you could tell any story or stretch any truth.
I don't understand what you're saying and I apologize if I'm mistaken, however are you saying that not all whistle blowers may be telling the truth and it doesn't matter what they reveal; that generally speaking the government will tarnish their reputation, So why bother going through the process? I agree not all whistle blowers may be telling the truth, however it's not up to the whistle blower by themselves, but up to investigative journalist who will used these whistle blowers as a source or a base to start their investigation to seek the truth. It does matter what they reveal, even if the public opinion may disagree, it helps start a conversation and bring to light accountability to the government in terms of investigation by journalist. Regarding the motives that is subjective to the whistle blower, Mordechai Vanunu was a nuclear technician against nuclear weapons, he expose Israel arsenal of nuclear weapons to the world with credible evidence . Reporters Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein and source W. Mark Felt Daniel Elsiberg Glen Greenwald and Edward Snowden Regardless of motives the initial result is important to expose and create a conversation among the public, it is up to the credible evidence investigative journalist finds, or credible evidence whistle blowers can provide to proof to the public. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/07/02/glenn_greenwald_discusses_obamas_war_on_whistleblowers_on_fnc.html
How's it baseless? I was asking for clarification and even apologize if it was an misunderstanding; then stated my opinion mind you I wasn't speaking to you for if I was I would of quoted you. Lol was the substance untrue? Are you arguing the substance of my statements or how I started the conversation between myself and another blade? Im really confuse if you want to engage me in the substance or context then sure I will bite? How??? Sent from my SPH-L900 using Grasscity Forum mobile app
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i missed the words "by themselves". i thought you were actually somehow suggesting it was good for people to simply blow the whistle on perceived issues and let the journalists figure it out.