For those who do not believe we evolved and instead came from adam and eve

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  1. #41 Sc0pe, Apr 10, 2014
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    Are you fucking kidding me? do your research Scientology has nothing to do with Science, the only thing it has in common is the word science in its name, scientology is about some deluded belief involving alien souls and some bullshit about a volcano

    there is no science religion, there is just science, the type of things where you go hey this works like this write it down
    gravity pulls objects, water makes things wet, fire burns things, thats the general meaning of science there is nothing else to it

    an dim hardly seeing any difference in these big bang theory details, they all say it occurred almost 14 billion years ago and was the sudden inflation of spacetime

    and #2 i know all those definitions of evolution, they are not one steady path of evolution, they are describing how things change over time(evolve) not saying we evolved from hydrogen which evolved from the cosmos as some living thing, even tho we are made from it

    also i am still not understanding how these things contradict each other

    as for only one making sense im gonna guess you mean micro evolution, but ive got news for you, micro evolution is just macro evolution in a shorter period
    why is it that you can believe that wolves can evolve into dogs that are smarter than others, or balder than others or faster than others

    yet it is so hard for you to believe that there was an ape that evolved to stand taller than others and be smarter than others and have less hair than others

    as for your dog birthing a cat or whatever, that is ridiculous, there is no way in a million years that a dog would randomly give birth to a cat, do you know what it will give birth to ? a dog, a slightly different dog, and that will give birth to, you guessed it a dog, and then the next will be a dog and the next a dog and so forth until you start to realise that this millionth dog doesnt look like the original dog, and it doesnt look like a cat either because cats are a seperate lineage, no this would be a completely new animal, no body in the history of science ever said that one animal gives birth to a completely different species
    what science says is that animals give birth to their own species and that individual is slightly different to the original, maybe it has longer claws, the next generations might add more, maybe a longer neck, and then maybe longer fur, then maybe a different posture, before you know it you have something that does not look anything like what you started off with

    As for your question it was not bang this bang that, it was the birth of the universe which was composed of energy which condensed into matter(mostly forming hydrogen), which clumped together, and under that pressure and heat nuclear reactions take place, these are called stars, and these reactions cause the hydrogen atoms to fuse their nucleus, the nucleus determines if something is iron, gold, copper, whatever, which then can go on to be parts of planets when the star goes supernova, you believe in supernova do you? or is it too ridiculous since you havent seen one happen,
    these chemicals on these planets, can form molecules with each other, and once a DNA or RNA molecule is formed than it can give rise to life, as to how the molecules first formed is the question since we do not know
    we also dont know where this first stuff came from, and we dont claim to know because the furthest we can read with instruments is no further than the big bang

    as for your last comment, YES WE HAVE SEEN ELEMENTS CHANGE FROM ONE TO ANOTHER
    google radioactive decay, pretty sure that uranium changes in to lead over time, and also have you heard of the large hadron collider?
    smashing atoms together sometimes fuses their nucleus creating new elements, so there is chemical evolution as you so put it

     

  2. You crack me up man lol I've said all I have to say. Your comments are difinitive but they're just theories.

    You have theory, I have faith. Thats the only difference and I'm happy with mine.

    So long, tinkerbell.
     
  3. So i answered your questions and you run away, typical creationist
    funny you didnt say anything about the most provable of these that we can and have changed elements, maybe if you get out of your fairytale book and set foot in a real lab you can see it for yourself 
     
  4. You didn't answer anything.... Funny, set foot in a real lab? Maybe read the definition of science again. Your theories cannot be proven, therefore, who is telling fairytales?
     
  5. Yes, God kills innocent children. He starves them to death in the Sudan and yet he makes sure the Titan's score a touchdown when all the parents pray for one on Friday Night under the lights. He (she?, no way) also listens to approximately 1.2 Billion prayers in different languages every day, ignores most and occasionally gives a "miracle"  ( dat shit would NEVER happen!) once or twice a day. He's white (I've seen the paintings) but loves you even if you are black, yellow or brown but wont save you if a Tiger eats your ass..cuz, thats Nature. God is good. Amen.
     

  6. What was that all about?


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  7. He's engaging in Reductio ad absurdum. It's a logical fallacy where you take the stance of your opposition and exaggerate points and take extremes in order to ridicule.

    I find it to be petty and immature however. And it is fallacious. It comes off more ignorant in many cases to the ignorant statements they're originally trying to ridicule.
     
  8. #48 Mr. President, Apr 11, 2014
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    But, why make a fool of ones self on the internet?
     
    please don't imply another member is a fool..
     
    Thanks
    Yoda
     
  9.  
    It is generally a tactic used by those who can't grasp a logical argument instead to support their position.  It is generally a sign of weakness.
     
  10. Why not?
     
    thats the real question.
     
  11. Because ponys like lollipops.
     
  12. You didn't have to get all butt hurt about it.


    -kev
     
  13. Where did all this crap come from? Where did your changed elements come from? Creationists have hope in life after death. Your view seems pretty close ended. Pick up a rock. Look at it. Your view says you are nothing more special than a rock. A bunch of molecules and crap accidentally stuck together. Get your head out of your ass and exercise your brain. Think deeper. Halleluyer


    -kev
     
  14. I definitely answered your question about whether or not we can change elements
     
  15. So you think a life of delusion is more important than facts?
    get off your computer, you dont deserve to use it since it since it was created by people who actually looked for the truth, semiconducting material and electricity had to be discovered for computers to work
    maybe you should pull your head out of your ass if you believe in this magic fairy creating everything
     
  16. Who cares if it's evolution or creationism. Can't it be both? Were just putting a word and theory on creation so we can attempt to understand something so magnificent right? Reverse engineering in a way right? But that still brings us back to the beginning...and we won't know if there is a start or an end.


    -kev
     
  17. We create everything. Oh yeah...except matter, mr. Bill Nye the science guy. Explain that with your semiconducting electric porn viewer computer magic theory jew got assimilating over there on your side of the keyboard.




    -kev
     
  18. So you're trolling or just being ignorant and arrogant.
     
  19. creationism says we were created in our current form 6000 years ago, evolution states we developed over time starting 3.5 billion years ago, it cannot be both because they are completely different claims

    evolution is fact, creationism is deluded bullshit, all you have to do is educate yourself on DNA, you believe DNA exists dont you or do you believe that our cells work with prayers

    DNA determines what cells do and in turn result in a creature, DNA can also change minutely between generations, thats all evolution is
    you start out with something, you get something slightly different in the next generation, and over time the changes add up

    As for that last statement we dont create everything we just learn how the world works and use it to our advantage, while you religious nuts were standing around for hundreds of years shouting LOOK WHAT JESUS DID, some of us were actually doing work for humanity

    If you have proof of where matter comes from please do tell me, infact if you can tell me you i will make sure you get a nobel prize and millions of dollars
     
  20. #60 Sc0pe, Apr 11, 2014
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    trolls act stupid, creationists are stupid, you cant tell the difference
     
     
    Please keep the insults to yourself.
    we don't tolerate it here.
     
    Yoda
     
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