Help me.

Discussion in 'Philosophy' started by Maleficus, Mar 19, 2014.

  1. #21 No Schwag, Mar 22, 2014
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    People still strive for massive amounts of money thinking it's the end all be all...
     
    it's hard to answer why everyone falls into that pitfall.
     
    I hope to make millions in my lifetime... but... I feel as though I don't need the money or the cars or the shit to be happy. I'm always trying to be happy with myself and so when I have the cars and the money I still know how to live life. Maybe I'll end up like you though after failing to stay true to myself. I hope not. I plan to become a CPA and make a lot of money but I also feel it isn't JUST about the money for me.
     
    I realize that there is a need for accountants so long as money is in use. I wish we did not need to use money honestly. This is not likely to happen on a wide scale any time soon so I figure I should become a certified public accountant so I can leave the country and get away from the shit hole that is the U.S. and find a nicer place to live. Additionally I do not LOVE accounting though I have always thought about money and have always been fascinated by it and by business and I know I can make a good accountant. 
     
    So it isn't my dream to be an accountant yet it's my plan and in a way, also my dream... Like I'd much rather just chill all day and be rich or... be a rapper, make tons of money by performing and coming up with weak ass hooks.
     
    But when I think about actually living an easy life I soon realize that it isn't what I actually want.
     
    I really want to be that CPA... I want to be able to support myself and my kids if I have them. I might marry, but if I do, I want a woman who makes money and isn't living off of my money because I want a very smart intellectual as my spouse who has a career because she sees why a career is a necessary thing. And damn it, I love cars. I have always wanted to make a lot of money and to buy cars I absolutely love. But it isn't a list nor is it a specific car, I will buy it when I see it when I am able to. I do not know what I wait for necessarily and I am open to my plans changing.
     
    Anyways that ends my sober rant.
     
    A little background information: I come from a very low income family and was born/raised/still live in a shitty neighborhood but I have huge ass dreams and always have because of my parents. I'm studying to become an accountant now and soon might be working for an accountant that my uncle is friends with.

     
  2. #22 Account_Banned283, Mar 22, 2014
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    What would I do? I'd try my hand at anything I wanted, whenever I wanted, go wherever I wanted, buy nearly anything I wanted, live wherever I wanted, as well as continuing to follow the interest's I already have.
     
    Don't you have any hobbies that you find fulfilment in? Perhaps you should be looking for some.
     
    ''There needs to be a goal''
     
    Yes, which is why you should be searching for happiness itself, rather than buying objects that you think will make you happy. You have funds which provide you with a great amount of freedom to do this, where others are stuck in economic slavery, and I would think for most members of society if their goal's be to acquire wealth, it is because it procures them freedom. But if your goal was always to attain money for money's sake, why are you not just continuing to strive for more of it? Or why don't you give away all of it that you have, so you can reset your ambitions and start having to labour for it again?
     
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    Its not that I couldn't do it, I very easily could. But I have been fucked for my money far to many times + most of my wealth is currently invested in shares and property.
     
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    You really don't think I have done exactly that? Tried my hand at anything everything etc.
     
    You have the exact same mentality as a lot of other people. You believe wealth will miraculously allow you to do what you want, become who you want & go where you want. Its not like that. Freedom cannot be purchased like you think.
     
    Until you experience real wealth you will never understand the prison it creates. Everyone, and I mean EVERYONE, always believes they will be the same person, have the same morals & be happy and free when they're wealthy.
    If this was true why do so many lottery winners lose it all?
    Why do so many rich people go into drugs and go insane?
    Why are rich people so unhappy?
     
    Do you think you are the exception? Because you are not. Whatever you may believe you could not possibly be the same person if you had $100 Million in the bank.
     
    And like I said before, until you experience real wealth, you will never EVER understand what it makes you.
     
    Until then, I wish you all the best.
     


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    Doubtful.
     


     
    What's stopping you?
     


     
    Aww, poor you! It must be terrible living with all that money!
     
    But seriously, could you explain this "prison" that wealth creates?
     


     
    And there are lots of people out there that do just that.
     


     
    Because they have no clue how to manage their money. Not a byproduct of wealth, moreso a byproduct of a lack of education.
     


     
    Lots of poor people are heavily involved in drugs as well. I fail to see the correlation other than rich people can afford to buy a lot of drugs.
     


     
    What kind of question is this? Doesn't even make sense as their are plenty of happy rich people as well.
     
  7. this. seriously, all the money is is an enabler for when you find a passion to pursue.

    if youre rich and unhappy shut the hell up. youre exactly like everybody else except with the means to change it and live whatever your dreams may be the second you have them.

    try being the poor man with clear and simple dreams who will never achieve them solely due to lack of capital.
     
  8. Don't judge someone until uve walked in their shoes /thread

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  9. Interesting.
     
    Many of those who know me really think that I'm also a happy guy because of what I own and am but the truth is, shit only gets worse
     
    Basically, money shows you the truth about people which can be very very depressing. You feel unrecognized, people don't know who you really are, they have an image of you that is very hard to change. That's when you feel the need to meet total strangers just to see if you're good enough as a person, you reach a point in life where you don't know if you have a likable personality or not. You find yourself surrounded by shallow and materialistic people, stuck in a meaningless lifestyle.
     
    Point is money changes the people around you before it changes you, don't let it do that. Meet new people of different classes and races. I travel a lot and I have chilled with all sorts of people, that is my cure. Travelling makes me reborn into a new country with a new  identity and lifestyle.
     
    I was in kenya last, I went there for charity but stayed an extra week to party and met some of the coolest people ever. I went to Egypt during the revolution and learned everything I needed to know about will ,dignity and beauty. I was Mangolia last year and over there I've learned about being happy. I was also in Goa recently and learned about my tolerance hahahahahhah
     
    Just travel, meet randoms and always be modest.
     
  10. #30 Account_Banned283, Mar 23, 2014
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    ''You really think I haven't done that? Tried my hand at everything etc.''
     
    Fine, you haven't found a hobby you want to continue yet, is this your money's fault?
     
    ''You have the exact same mentality as a lot of other people''
     
    Why? Because I think it's utterly moronic and very irritating for somebody to blame their spiritual afflictions on being rich? The title of the thread is silly enough ''Help me.'', can't you pay a professional to do that?
     
    ''Freedom cannot be purchased like you think.''
     
    I didn't say freedom could be purchased, I said being very rich rich allows you a great deal more freedom than those who are poor have. It is not anybody else's fault, nor your money's, that you do not know how to spend your free time.
     
    ''Until you experience real wealth you will never understand the prison it creates.''
     
    This should be enlightening.. how on earth does having money create a prison for the person that has it?
     
    ''Everyone, and I mean EVERYONE, always believes they will be the same person, have the same morals & be happy and free when they're wealthy.''
     
    Why would I not be the same person? Why would I not have the same morals? Why would I not have more freedom? Stop making ridiculous statements without explaining your reasoning. 
     
    You may have natural blues that accompany everyone at points in their life, but this is not because you have a lot of money.
     
    ''If it was true why do so many lottery winners lose it all?''
     
    First of all, I can't be bothered to check, but when you say ''so many lottery winners lose it all'' you can only be referring to the ones that you have heard of losing it all, forgetting that there are a huge percentage of winners who don't lose it, and therefore aren't given attention. But in regards to the ones who do, and even if most of the winners did lose it all, it is probably because they are not judicious or intelligent enough in the use of their money.. Do you think that the winner's live a better and more free life when they have their money, or when they lose all of it?
     
    ''Why do so many rich people go into drugs and go insane?''
     
    Lmfao, this is gibberish, how many cases can you point to to validate this? For every one rich person afflicted by these, I can point to twenty rich people who live happily. And how many poor people do you think go into drugs or become insane? Less than the amount of rich people? Pfft, I'd venture to say that for every one rich person that is a drug addict, there are at least fifteen poor people in the same scenario.
     
    ''Why are rich people so unhappy?''
     
    The majority probably aren't, and like I said, it they are, it isn't because they have too much money. The poorer classes on average are much much more likely to suffer from depression.
     
    ''Do you think you are the exception? Because you are not.''
     
    The exception to what? The few rich people that moan about being too rich? Yes I probably am the exception.
     
    ''And like I said, until you experience real wealth, you will never EVER understand what it makes you.''
     
    I know that it won't make me somebody that whines and blames my maladies on an ''extreme use of wealth'', I don't what else you could mean by this.
     
  11. Sounds like you're depressed. Sure, you could say your happy, but you're probably only happy in the moment something happy is happening. Lots of people are like that, living in the moment and enjoying it.. but when they stop and look outside the moment, it's like "fuck". As you could probably tell, you need a real passion.. Something you can look forward to, not just enjoy when it happens.
     
    My suggestion would be to get into philanthropy. Start some businesses that interest you so you can continue making money that you can use to help others.. While I am not loaded and struggling to find my purpose, it's my plan I want to work up to. I want to open up a canine country club where we help dogs/animals and people. Taking what I've learned from working with dogs, I have a plan for a kennel/daycare/shelter/training facility where I would be able to feed my employees (and hopefully their household family), pay them well, take care of dogs who need it til a home is found, and use the profits to help others and to start other business ideas with the same intent, while still leaving myself room to be a hermit when I want. I feel like out of all the possible paths, that's the one that will bring me the most happiness.
     
    Other than that, I'd probably buy shit just to blow it up and watch it burn out of boredom..
     
  12. I wouldn't go into the Peace Corps to see the look on an ex's face..haha. Sounds like you need to look beyond your Self and help some other people that have nothing out (with your time and presence). If you want to see real misery go to Syria for 1 day.
     
  13. I wonder if OPs faking it or not... regardless, OP you haven't said anything but why it sucks, how it sucks, and judge others negatively assuming they would have it that as tough as you. No one knows what they would do if they had a couple mill until you have it...The most noble thing you could do is help others. Hell, you know the worlds a fucked up place in its current state, help people help make it better. I don't think you could go wrong there. 
     
    Aside from spending the money, be proud of your accomplishments and live a less lavish lifestyle if you find others giving you extra attention for no apparent reason and are solely interested in talking to you because you have this privileged life....which you have created for yourself.
     
  14. Do something that involves creativity or a skill that only you possess or have access to. 

    I'd recommend making music of some sort? There's unlimited options there, especially with your wealth.  :eek:
     
  15. #35 SmokinCautious, Mar 24, 2014
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    Do what makes you happy in life and if you don't have that then no one can help you.


    "My first time havin sex was in a washing machine.... I was five."
    -Thurnis Haley
     
  16. Help yourself by helping others.
     
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    You want to know a little secret? Helping others is not as easy as it sounds.
     
    The amount of money I've given away only to have it blown away on casino's, drugs etc is appalling.
     
    I've tried other ways...Instead of straight money I decided to fund the expense itself. I paid for my nephews law degree and found out 6 months later he had attended a full 3 hours!! 
     
    Like I said before, I can't help those who don't help themselves.
    + about 0.05c of every dollar donated to charity goes into actual helpful use.
    Look it up.
     
    As for the prison it creates:
     
    - Its a fallacy to think you can just store all your money in a bank account and leave it there.
    Sustaining wealth takes just as much effort as making it. I wont go into specifics but a few examples are:
     Constant meetings with accountants, brokers, advisers, property managers, board meeting (for corporations)
    the list goes on and on and on...
    You can't break away and let them take care of everything because you have to look out for fraud, legal problems & most things need the wealth owners approval. (signed documents, read contracts etc)
    You can't just live in a hut because you constantly need to keep an eye on your cash. Have you ever seen a fully relaxed business man on vacation? me neither.
     
    - Your friends, family, neighbors & pretty much everyone will want something from you.
    Whether its a job, a car, a loan or ANYTHING.
    That's why I only really hang out with other rich, drugged up, unhappy people. Because if I hang out with lower class people they will ask something from me ALWAYS!
    You might think "I would never ask for anything" if that was so true why do I get badgered for loans at every party?
     
    Unless you completely start your life over in a new country you can't escape the constant wanting of those around you.
    And I'm rather reluctant to move to a new country seeing as my longest so-called 'friends' (or parasites) live here.
    Plus my corporation and main current business is here as well.
     
    - For every dollar you make someone else wants it.
    I battle of legal fees and lawsuits like ping pong balls. I always have to consult my lawyers nearly once a fortnight.
    I don't want to expose anything else here but even if you don't do anything illegal someone somewhere will find a way to prosecute you.
     
    I could continue?
     
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    Your hilarious, every new post you make sounds like a terrible prologue to a terrible movie or book, like The Great Gatsby.
     
    I don't think insulting my style of writing is really necessary.
     
     
    Fine, you haven't found a hobby you want to continue yet, is this your money's fault?
     
    In a way yes. Because everything I desire is within easy reach it takes the appeal of the whole thing.
    Learning French and going to France SOUNDS great, which it is! But if you can do it whenever you wanted it wouldn't be quite so fun.
    I know it seems silly, selfish & moronic. But that's the way it is.
     
    You know the quote Nothing Worth Having In Life Comes Easy ?
    Well its a bit like that, many things aren't worth going after because they are so easy to obtain.
     
    Why? Because I think it's utterly moronic and very irritating for somebody to blame their spiritual afflictions on being rich? The title of the thread is silly enough ''Help me.'', can't you pay a professional to do that?
     
    To be honest I did see a therapist once. But they don't do much other than say 'stay calm' in fancy ways.
     
    This should be enlightening.. how on earth does having money create a prison for the person that has it?
     
    Refer to reply to "dannyszu"
     
     
    Why would I not be the same person? Why would I not have the same morals? Why would I not have more freedom? Stop making ridiculous statements without explaining your reasoning. 
     
    Either you have misunderstood or I have failed to explain.
    I said you would become a DIFFERENT person. You may very well become a better person and give it all away, live poorly & build a school.
     
    OR
     
    You can keep it to yourself and say a big "F U" the the public.
     
    The point is, you would not be the same. You may laugh and not believe me, I did the same thing before my wealth hit me, but its true.
    As I keep saying, you must experience it to understand.
     
     
    First of all, I can't be bothered to check, but when you say ''so many lottery winners lose it all'' you can only be referring to the ones that you have heard of losing it all, forgetting that there are a huge percentage of winners who don't lose it, and therefore aren't given attention.
     
    That's true enough. I didn't really think the whole 'lottery winner' remark too thoroughly.
    Have must have heard some of the 'lottery ruined my life' stories though right?
     
     
     
    Lmfao, this is gibberish, how many cases can you point to to validate this?
     
    To many to count! Think of all the celebs who have gone into drugs. Charlie Sheen  Macaulay Culkin anyone?
     
    Wait out front a high priced restaurant, a sports car dealership and/or prestigious stock broking firm. I guarantee you that the majority of the wealthy individuals who enter will be:
    In, or has been in, rehab.
    has drugs in their fucking pocket
    high out their minds
     
    I know there are exceptions, just look at NPH, but after being exposed to, as I refer, the 'wealth club' I can tell you that Drugs To The Rich Is Like Water To A duck.
     
    The majority probably aren't, and like I said, it they are, it isn't because they have too much money.
     
    I have to ask, how do you know? Are you wealthy? is your family? Do you know many wealthy people?
    Where are you getting your opinions from?
     
    Go into First Class or a very expensive diner and count how many smiles you see. 1 if your lucky.
    (The drunk and high ones don't count)
     
     
    The exception to what? The few rich people that moan about being too rich? Yes I probably am the exception.
     
    If course you think you are!! Everyone always thinks 'I will be different.' But the fact is they rarely are.
     
    I told myself I wouldn't smoke, now look at me, a fucking chimney.
     
     
     
    I'm guessing many of the argumentative behavior stems from people not wanting to believe that what they have striven for all their lives is not what it seems.
     
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    Yes, because of having no real friends and having everyone constantly want something from you is a pathetic rich people problem.
     

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