Been dabbing for a while and I'm not sure I'm 100% satisfied with my process. Using a butane torch, my (dome-required?) titanium nail usually heats up to 1/4 red hot in 30 seconds.....Put the dome on, dabbing usually 3-10 seconds after the red goes away......and it's milk, so it's not too cold for sure I experience a kind of burning in my throat that makes me cough.....not nearly as bad as a rare nasty hit of bud that causes chest collapse though. Anyone have any comments/suggestions? Generally how long to wait for the titanium to be optimal temperature? Does a cold dab hit better/stronger than a warm one? Throw somethin at me Side note: Anyone know anything about Propane torches on titanium nails creating Titanium Oxide? And if that's bad for you...if there's info about this on the internet already I can't find it haha peace
400 degrees is what you need to vaporize. Somewhere between 400 and 700 would be good but the lower the temp the better in all honesty. I saw some of my dumb friends hit a RED HOT nail. It was stupid.
I personally like to get it to just start glowing red and hit it just a few seconds later. It always milks up nice and smooth. My only observation on the torch situation is that my butane torch works great, much better than my propane one, but I've never had issues with the propane torch.
This is absolutely some of the worst advice I have EVER seen on the internet. Ok. 400 degrees is way too hot for dabbing for one, and hitting the dab as soon as you make it red hot is the BIGGEST NO NO you can do with dabbing. The whole idea is to get as much of the product in your lungs without irritating your larynx (that's in your throat) as possible. Between 275 Fahrenheit and 350 Fahrenheit is where you want your nail. Anything hotter and you lose all the flavor (terpenoids) and also destroy some other cannabinoids I'm not familiar with. And to be honest the best nail is going to not be a titanium one, it is either Quartz or Ceramic. These are the best nails to use. If you go with quartz go with the Daisy Domeless quartz nail and if you go with ceramic there is only one to choose from and that is Hive ceramics. Titanium actually releases titanium-oxide when it gets hot enough. And YES dabbing gets it hot enough. That burning in your throat is the noxious gas (titanium oxide) irritating your larynx (and possibly damaging you in the long run in unknown ways)
LOL 400 is to hot for dabbin? Where did you come up with that crap? 400 is not even the minimum if you are not using an enail anyone that uses a torch needs it to be at least 500 otherwise they better be doing .02 dabs or something extremely tiny. E-nail sure you can do 400 or a bit lower 370ish with a carb cap but if you are using a torch like most people definitely avoid this dudes advice on temp.
Dude don't sit here and feed crap to these people. I'm able to dabs at that temperature every night dude. And every day. Between 275F and 350F is the BEST TEMP TO DAB. I have a temperature gun that I measure the heat with so I'm sure. If you get that 500F then your WAY over doing it. Get a temp gun and find out for yourself. That's of course unless your just here to spurt garbage.... Let me just also say that I use a Titanium Carb Cap With Dabber Flat Head Tool to really capitalize on my low temp dabs. Haha check this guy out low temp dabbing it up baby! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leAwXaHXtc4
Every post or product that I have seen says 710 is the perfect temp. I bought a e-nail.us digital enail that came pre-programmed at 710. You can adjust it anyway you want but that's what it comes at... I believe the dudes that make them have some good knowledge on the subject...
"I have a temp gun" lol its giving you the wrong readings my friend. The flash point of thc is well over 400 degrees so you will have no problem vaping at the temp. Not to mention you have to take the leidenfrost effect in to play when considering vaporizing oils. @44gambit44 people like you are the reason misinformation gets spread around the internet.
Not actual temp of nail head. The nail head is more so 4-450 even though the digital display reads 710
D-Nail actually has a section on their site where they compared Enail set temperatures to the actual measured temperatures over the whole surface of the nail; even the least reliable nail only has a temp drop by ~150F compared to the set temperature. I usually set my enail to ~660-685 unless I'm dropping a really large dab, so using the nail I use (Highly Educated OG insert) given information from D-Nail's charts, I usually dab on a Ti surface around 575-615F. Edit: I feel like with the enail settings I've tried out I don't ever like going below 650 (vapes too slow), and I usually don't go over 720 (starts to really effect taste). So between to D-Nail's data and my own empirical observations dabbing a wide variety of hash at a wide variety of temperatures, I feel like 575-615 is probably a sweet spot for flavor in my own personal opinion, but perhaps 550-650 would be a feasible temperature range. For comparison to how I like to hit normal domeless pieces I usually heat them up to a full red hot then after it stops glowing I start a timer; for my infiniti and dualiti I usually wait about 30-40 seconds after it stops glowing, but for my Halen honeyhole I wait for at least 45 seconds after it stops glowing at all before dabbing, so I like a really low temperature hit where carb capping is required.
Seems to me that the most ideal temperature for ingesting cannabinoids optimally is the lowest possible, or the closest to the point at which that sweet erl begins to vaporize. Terpenes start burning up at a between 100-110 F. Those are the aromas and taste compounds. This is why when some people heat-vac their extracts while curing they keep the oven set within that range. Every piece of information I've read about the healthiest temperature to inhale THC is just below or around 400 F. This is because THC oil begins to vaporize at around 375-392 F. I've also heard that some cannabinoids begin to vaporize at around 285 F. Anyone remember the days before fancy hash/oil smoking devices? Hot-knives were a thing, and they kind or sucked because they were crazy hot on your throat. Things are way more evolved now and with all of this awesome oil-puffing technology out there, along with all of this great scientific research and information, I don't see how there can be any discrepancy regarding the most ideal temperature for dabbing, depending on what you're looking for. What's "ideal" for one person may be different than what is for someone else. However, as far as the healthiest/most connoisseur method, I'd say right around that vaporization temperature... http://www.medicaljane.com/2013/03/11/vaporizing-a... https://www.leafly.com/news/cannabis-101/vaping-ve... http://hashmuseum.com/en/the-plant/medicinal-canna... http://www.cannabis.info/us/abc/30007574-how-to-me... http://www.hightimes.com/read/studying-vaporizer-i...
Tone it down, Pimp. You don't seem to be in a great place to offer suggestions on who to listen to. I know you feel like you're 100% right and that your using 'science' but you oughtta to research your equipment broski. IR temp guns take in the temperature of everything in its range and gives an average reading. So I'm sure you get the reading you say, but that's not the whole picture. (Just thought of an analogy, you're IR gun is basically an IR camera, it takes everything in frame, takes temp readings of it all, and averages the temp of everything and puts the temp readout on the screen instead of an IR pic. (not to mention to get a reliable IR gun isn't cheap, not saying yours is China made cue I've got no clue, just an observation that I've made.) to get the best reading I'd say IR camera or contact/probe thermometer. (Which I don't believe are too cheap either) Nothing wrong with trying to inform someone, or give your opinion, IMO it's just how you do it. BUT MAKE SURE YOU KNOW WHAT THE HECK YOUR TALKING ABOUT. Otherwise you might end up being 'that guy'. Props on trying to use science to help fellow Dabbers and Dabettes, tho. Keep it Irie, peace
You must be confusing Fahrenheit and Celsius. At 350C, you'd be at around 660F, which would be more likely. You'd just be "pooling" your dabs at too low a temp like what you say. Unless you can aim your temp gun at the exact right spot at the exact time you hit the dab, you really have no idea what temp it is, just like the video you tell us to watch... it proves nothing as it shows him getting it red hot and hitting about 2 sec later....probably still way above 450F. Red hot is pushing 800+ and it doesn't cool down that fast. Do some research and get headucated before people just ignore you because of your hostility and lousy attitude.
Attitude is key. Not just here but in life. At least thats what buddha said.. He appeared after we found some random fungi for dinner. He was purple but nice enough.