Damage done by anti-vaccination movement

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Malvolio, Jan 26, 2014.

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    You are literally the king of putting words in people's mouths. You've been constantly debating points that people haven't even made. Either you don't understand us, or we don't understand you (I'm pretty sure it's both).

     
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    It's pretty much just bad science. A lot of people think that the Thiomersal in vaccines caused autism, despite no actual evidence to suggest that it does. It's worth noting that they haven't used Thiomersal in vaccines for years, and yet people still bitch and moan about the links with autism, despite the fact that the chemical isn't even present. People also don't like some of the ingredients, such as aluminium, despite the fact that there's more naturally occurring aluminium in breast milk than there is in a vaccine.
     
    Most of the myths are presented and debunked in this article http://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/dear-parents-you-are-being-lied#lUFuic4klYJhEJDM.99
     
  3. Is it ever to late to vaccinate? Like in years. Are we ever to old to get vaccinated for any disease? I know chicken pox is bad to get when older because of shingles or something like that. But Idk if the chicken pox vaccinations is administered to older people?

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  4. As long as you're not immunocompromised i can't imagine it being too late. Or if you contract the disease due to waiting on vaccination then it would be too late
     
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    It depends on the vaccine.
     
    I was just vaccinated for Yellow Fever, for the first time at 37 years old, because next week I'm traveling to several African countries where it is required.  It is my first time traveling to a country where it is required, so there has been no reason for me to ever get it before. The average American toddler in pre-school isn't at risk for yellow fever :)
     
    But things like whooping cough, rubella, measles (and even polio, if it weren't for the vaccine), are spread rapidly among children because they play in close physical contact, and their immune systems aren't strong enough to fight those diseases like a healthy adult may be able to.
     
  6. but can you vaccinate for polio and such as a adult?
    Need to start talking to my daughter about it now that she is old enough to make a decision.

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  7. And have a good trip

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    You can be vaccinated for anything as an adult, but most diseases that children are vaccinated against (like polio) are more dangerous to children.  A healthy adult can get polio and only have a fever for a few days, where a 5 year old can get it and be paralyzed for life.
     
    http://www.webmd.com/children/vaccines/polio-vaccine-ipv
     
  9. May your explanation be informed and unbiased.
     
  10. Anything less would be stupid as a father. Nothing is more important to me than my daughter.

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    This is something you should discuss with your doctor. If you've had the chicken pox, it's unlikely that you'll need a chicken pox vaccine. If your daughter has not had the chicken pox yet, ask your doctor about getting the chicken pox vaccine.
     
    As Penelope said, it's very common to get vaccines before travelling to different areas around the world for different diseases, especially if you plan on being in rural areas of those countries.
     
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    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/measles-on-the-rise-as-immunisation-falls-1.1763057
     
  13. If you've had chicken pox, then there's a chance of getting shingles.  There is a vaccine for shingles, I think that it's mostly for older people. 
     
  14. You can also, you know, be a responsible adult and have a chicken pox party for your kid so they dont get it as an adult.

    Common practice actually

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  15. Actually, you CAN'T be a responsible adult and have a chicken pox party for your kid. Unless the vaccine is unavailable, those are mutually exclusive.

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  16. Chicken pox is deadly for adults. Not for kids.

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  17. That's not true.  It can kill kids, too.  As well as just make them absolutely miserable.  And did you see above, where I said I recently had shingles?  That was WAY MORE miserable than the chicken pox I had as a kid.  I tell you, as a parent, if my dad had had the opportunity when I was little, to spare me both the chicken pox and shingles, and he had chosen instead to purposely infect me with chicken pox, thus making me able to get shingles later, that would have been very irresponsible.
     
    And even if your kids are healthy, AND get it young, AND thus only are miserable for a week AND only have a FEW scars, AND they luck out and don't get shingles later in life, they can still pass chicken pox on to someone who is immunocompromised.  That's not what a responsible adult does.
     
  18. Purposely inoculating kids in the attempt of making them contract a disease? I was really hoping you weren't being serious with that response but were using it to ridicule such an awful concept.

    Not to mention that plethora of both cons and chronic/lethal side effects knitting mama got to before i did.
     
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    Absolute, compete, unequivocal moron....
     
  20. It's pretty sad when people are looking to porn actors for medical advice. Fucking hate celebrity worship.
     

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