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Edible for first time

Discussion in 'Weed Edibles' started by just one toke, Jan 11, 2014.

  1. Hey so the girl I'm dating is interested in weed, but is completely against the idea of smoking or vaping, but would be open to edibles. I made cookies that have about .4g of dank in each. I have no tolerance right now but have smoked for a while. 1/4 cookie for me gets me strongly high on a fairly empty stomach, peaks about 2-3 hours after eating and lasts probably 5 hours or so total. So I'm afraid if she doesn't like it it'll be a really bad experience. My plan is to give her like 1/10 of a cookie or maybe less which should give her at maximum a decently strong high. Worst case scenario she doesn't feel it and we can try it some other time.I warned her about the effects of edibles but it was obvious she'd never try smoking or vaping so this is the only option. I think she'd really enjoy the effects of weed and it would bring us one step closer together. Basically is this a much worse idea than I'm thinking?
     
  2. The only thing that might be bad is how long the high lasts. If you give her at most a quarter of a cookie it should be a good experience but I'd give here about an eighth of a cookie if it is dank.
     
  3. Yeah just a small bite should do the trick with a first timer. Especially a girl that usually will take less to affect. Make sure you are both in a good mood and comfortable environment when you do it and it should be a good time. Watch a funny movie or something.. Let us know how it turned out!
     
  4. Gave her about an 1/8th if not less and she had a nice buzz. I ate like a quarter and got pretty high but I was hungrier and have a fast metabolism.Next time I'm gonna give her a little more on an emptier stomach.
     
  5. wait am i missing something?? there is 0.4g in each cookie and you gave her an 1/8th which would be 0.05g ? and you had 0.1g 
     
    and you both got high ?! next time you should make it with 1g per cookie and give her half maybe so she can actually experience weed instead of placebo !!
     
  6. #6 Afghancamel, Jan 18, 2014
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    Don't listen to anyone questioning your dosages.
     
    A well made edible produced from dank bud can easily get an experience smoker with an ultra-low tolerance level (for whatever reason) stoned as you describe (for many hours after a 2-3 hour wait) at the dose you describe (0.1g).
     
    Whatever you do, do not give your friend an edible with a whole gram in it. If it is well made you will be lucky if she ever speaks to you again.
     
    Your dose is a tenth of a gram. Metabolism certainly plays a part, so does tolerance levels. (And remember that edibles raise your tolerance levels instantly, so if you have eaten two days in a row and it hasn't worked day two, that's why. You would need to double your dose on day two, at the very least.) But all things considered, a dose of 0.1 gram would be safe for her too.
     
    In the end, if she is keen on the idea of getting into edibles then she will have to start with small doses and work her way up. Double the dose to 0.2 for the second trial and then increase the dosages by 50% thereafter until she finds the spot. Unfortunately, unless she strikes the spot early it will take some time. Taking into account tolerance issues each trial must be several days apart at the very least. I would recommend 10-14 days between trials.
     
    It might take quite some time, years even, but it will be worth it once you have calibrated your friend's dosages to your own.
     
     
     
    One last thing: Don't ingest edibles on an empty stomach.
     
    Always eat a small meal or a large snack (preferably something greasy) no fewer than 2 and no more than 6 hours before ingesting your edibles. Taking edibles on and empty stomach runs the very great, and very real, risk of seeing your precious goodies go straight through you without giving any effects. The different state of your stomachs would go a long way to identifying the cause of your "metabolism" issue.
     
    Eat your preparatory meal/snack together and you will both be playing on the same stage. 
     
    If you are careful you will finally get to a point where the world of edibles is there for you both to enjoy together. Muck it up and it's over  :mellow:
     
    Take care, have fun!
     
  7. [quote name="Afghancamel" post="19361551" timestamp="1390019480"]Don't listen to anyone questioning your dosages.A well made edible produced from dank bud can easily get an experience smoker with an ultra-low tolerance level (for whatever reason) stoned as you describe (for many hours after a 2-3 hour wait) at the dose you describe (0.1g).Whatever you do, do not give your friend an edible with a whole gram in it. If it is well made you will be lucky if she ever speaks to you again.Your dose is a tenth of a gram. Metabolism certainly plays a part, so does tolerance levels. (And remember that edibles raise your tolerance levels instantly, so if you have eaten two days in a row and it hasn't worked day two, that's why. You would need to double your dose on day two, at the very least.) But all things considered, a dose of 0.1 gram would be safe for her too.In the end, if she is keen on the idea of getting into edibles then she will have to start with small doses and work her way up. Double the dose to 0.2 for the second trial and then increase the dosages by 50% thereafter until she finds the spot. Unfortunately, unless she strikes the spot early it will take some time. Taking into account tolerance issues each trial must be several days apart at the very least. I would recommend 10-14 days between trials.It might take quite some time, years even, but it will be worth it once you have calibrated your friend's dosages to your own.One last thing: Don't ingest edibles on an empty stomach.Always eat a small meal or a large snack (preferably something greasy) no fewer than 2 and no more than 6 hours before ingesting your edibles. Taking edibles on and empty stomach runs the very great, and very real, risk of seeing your precious goodies go straight through you without giving any effects. The different state of your stomachs would go a long way to identifying the cause of your "metabolism" issue.Eat your preparatory meal/snack together and you will both be playing on the same stage. If you are careful you will finally get to a point where the world of edibles is there for you both to enjoy together. Muck it up and it's over :mellow:Take care, have fun![/quote]Thanks for the advice. Ya I made good edibles with dank so even 1g for me would leave me crying on the ground lol. With .05ish she had a nice buzz so I'm gonna give her .1-.15 next time.
     
  8. My wife smoked in high school one time and it landed her in the ER. She hated it ever since. I injured my back really bad and live with pain every day. I knew it would help my pain safely and naturally without side effects or addiction. Took me like 2 years of convincing and about 100 documentaries to prove the science behind it. She caved and let me try it once. I made coco oil capsules that relived my pain better than my opiate prescriptions. I got off of them completely and am 1,000x better off in more ways than one because of cannabis. She is now completely a believer and even tried my coco caps a few times when she suffers one of her migraines! So that whole process was about 10 years. One bad experience took 10 years to fix! Remember that and use caution. You have your dosing down perfect. But always remember, no two batches are completely alike. Treat every new batch as if it is your first time. Better to be safe than ripped out of your mind... That is unless you like that ;)
     
  9. #9 Neegabutt, Jan 19, 2014
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     That's really inspiring man! I'm glad canna has helped you in so many ways. I know the feel of the convincing...current fighting that battle. But it's intriguing you did coco caps because that's exactly what I'm in the midst of now. Do you have any advice from your experiences?
     
  10. #10 KillerKush87, Jan 19, 2014
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    The science is everywhere. You can't deny science! Show her that every single argument she has can be disproved. For example, the leading to other drugs part, which is a big concern for many. So show her that it is made up propaganda. Show her documentaries: the union, the drug war 2: cannabis destiny, and there's many more. Rick simpson's run from the cure is a good one too because it shows how it cures cancer. People will have a hard time telling you no when they see it can actually cure some cancers. It will come with time, maybe not today or tomorrow, but sooner or later she will get tired of you bugging her about it and give in haha. Then you have to be careful at that point. It's make it or break it! You have to show her that you are responsible with it and will not abuse it. Once she sees how it helps you, she will be cool with it. I mean from where I came from to me showing my wife my plants that she lets me grow now is unreal when I think about it! I showed her how to clone plants and make tinctures, salves, coco oil capsules and everything else I do... It's so awesome! I even got my mom and dad to try it. My dad grew a few plants after I gave him seeds haha! When you compare medicine someone is taking to cannabis and compare the science and statistics of both, it's hard to say no to it! I mean our bodies were wired up for it. Anyone breast fed was given cannabinoids! You have to accept that at some point! Ok I think I made my point, I will stop now because I can continue all day haha... Good luckEdit: a good video to get her to watch, type in "today's cannabinoid profile" in YouTube and choose the video that is about 30-40 minutes. Has scientists talking about how every cannabinoid works. Very interesting!
     
  11. [quote name="penisface" post="19372938" timestamp="1390197937"]Dude think about the timing of this! 3.5 years of convincing and TODAY she says she'll go with me to get a vape!!! (I already have one tho lol). I can be upfront withher and this is the best news. A few months back I made a huge presentation to her on the cannabinoid system phytocannabinoids their safety vape safety and their improvement of OCD which Is relavant. Thanks for the motivation and advice! Do you have any advice on the coconut oil process? I'm doing this week :)Sent from my iPhone using Grasscity Forum[/quote]Awesome man! For the coco oil, it's almost hard to mess up. I saw you got help on BKS's thread. Do you have any specific questions? I went almost 100% to the recipe on the thread there.
     
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    I plan to stick exactly with her recipe as well. I'm just always trying to glean as much knowledge from the experienced people before I dip my toes haha. She always says to cook for 45 minutes for example, open the door, and let it stay in there for another 20 while it cools. I am using a really heat-efficient toaster oven that maintains its temperature really well even after it's off and the door has been opened. Technically I would be cooking at that temp for that extra 20 haha. Should I just follow her recipe exactly since she knows what she's doing or try to adjust for the heat retention of my oven?
     
    But that's very encouraging that you think it's hard to mess up. I think I'll stick to her recipe and i'll chime back in on that thread with my results.
     
  13. I'll PM ya so we don't jack this dudes thread ;)
     
  14. Make dry ice kief with your trim

    1. decarb 220 20 minutes 8 grams kief
    2. Use 1 cup EV coconut oil
    3. Add 1-2 tsp of soy lethicin per cup
    4. Heat in oven 45min take out and cool
    5. Freeze overnight take out defrost
    6. Heat in oven again 45 minutes

    Enjoy finished product. Divide how many cookies 1/4 cup will make using your 2 grams per 1/4 cup oil. An avg dose .10 kief/hash. At this dose you get about 20 cookies per 1/4 cup. Have fun and happy baking......, and getting baked. Lol
     
  15. #15 Afghancamel, Jan 21, 2014
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    I decided to get into edibles just a year ago because I wanted to cut down on my smoking after I gave up cigarettes. I am a self-sufficient home gardener.
     
    Unfortunately, tolerance issues prevent edibles from replacing smoking altogether if you are like me and you enjoy partaking of herb most days.
     
    Dosages are dependent on so many things. I share my edible with a couple of friends, one of whom was an experienced eater already and another friend who, it is fair to say, has been around the world a few times in his 50 years and would have been able to deal with a greenout. But I never give them an edible from a new batch I've made unless I've tested it first. 
     
    The last thing on earth you want to do is be responsible for somebody else's greenout!
     
    Everything you would ever want to know about making your own edible Canna Oil, edible Hash Oil and Edible Concentrate can be found here;
     
    http://forum.grasscity.com/incredible-edible-herb/742831-badkats-cannapharm-canna-caps-uv-reactive-glowing-hash-candy-canna-bombs-more.html
     
    It's an awesome thread. Don't be put off by the title, it's more than just a site for recipes, it's a science journal on the side  B)
     
    The premium links are these:
     
    http://forum.grasscity.com/incredible-edible-herb/742831-badkats-cannapharm-canna-caps-uv-reactive-glowing-hash-candy-canna-bombs-more-49.html/page-49#entry13446289
     
    http://forum.grasscity.com/incredible-edible-herb/742831-badkats-cannapharm-canna-caps-uv-reactive-glowing-hash-candy-canna-bombs-more.html/#entry9431861
     
    http://forum.grasscity.com/incredible-edible-herb/742831-badkats-cannapharm-canna-caps-uv-reactive-glowing-hash-candy-canna-bombs-more.html/page-22#entry11299348
     
     Read them as a trilogy is my advice, they cross each others paths repeatedly. Following the recipe/instructions exactly is extremely important. The whole process is based in science, so near enough isn't good enough.
     
    When you make the oil yourself you have a lot of information at hand, including what material was used and what condition it was in, a pretty good idea of how well your decarboxylation went as well as knowing for sure how long the oil has been "progressed".
     
    (The longer THC is processed at or near 220F the more of it degrades into CBN. This is your "couchlock" component. An oil processed for two hours at 220F will be more cerebral and a six hour oil will be more narcotic regardless of the material that you start out with. That said, your starting material has inherent limitations that can't be overcome). 
     
    I take half of what I would expect to be a normal dose from that particular oil and if it works (it always does) I know exactly where I'm at. Even if the oil is 4 times more potent than I expect I won't have taken too much. Half of my usual dose would be enough for three or four newbies.
     
    Have fun and be careful. It's possible to do both, but if you don't do the latter you may not get to do the former  :)
     
  16. #16 Afghancamel, Jan 21, 2014
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    Go to this site. Around pages 110 (a few either side) you will find an ongoing discussion on making oils specifically to deal with migraine.
     
    http://forum.grasscity.com/incredible-edible-herb/742831-badkats-cannapharm-canna-caps-uv-reactive-glowing-hash-candy-canna-bombs-more.html
     
    I'm pretty sure it's Clay that does most of the writing, I could be wrong. Anyway, the main speaker has a wife that has very bad migraines. He makes a Canna Oil or a Hash Oil and progresses it for a full 6 hours straight at 220F following decarboxylation, and he says she swears by them. Half an hour after ingestion and she is blissfully asleep.
     
  17.  
    If you are using Bad Kitty's Edible Hash Oil tutorial there is only one piece of advice to give: follow the instructions exactly. Not "nearly", not "just about", but exactly. Same for all of her tutorials.
     
    The links are two posts above if you don't know to what I refer  :D
     
  18.  
    I'm tired...
     
    I was involved in the law reform movement over 35 years ago and where I live we have advanced the cause not one inch.
     
    And my ears hurt from all the shouting I hear from people who make a living out of denying science.
     
    I wish I didn't care  :(
     
  19.  
    It's the best advice you can give anyone using BK's methods; follow the tutorials exactly  B)
     
  20.  
    It doesn't hurt to include all time spent under significant heat in your calculations. If it is at all possible you should always use the same oven, the same dish etc etc. You will find it a whole lot easier to replicate your decarbs and processing by using the same equipment, that's for sure.
     
    If you are making your first oil expect a mess. Don't be put off by it, I make a tenth of the mess now compared to the first oil I made haha  :D
     

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