Is anybody MONITORING cancer rates in cannabis smokers?

I haven't done a whole lot of reading on the lung cancer issue.... except that the vast majority of lung cancer patients that smoked bud, also smoked tobacco.. And the ones that only smoked bud weren't at any higher risk than cig smokers. Plus people get lung cancer that have never smoked anything, and bud smokers don't smoke as much plant material as most cig smokers. So that's a good thing. Not to mention all the Bs in most tobacco. Cannabis has cancer fighting properties as well, but I don't think a lot of studies have been done on that either...
 
And that source you were talking about that showed bud smokers are at a 4x higher risk for it than tobacco, was an older and smaller study than the UCLA one that showed 0 increase in risk.
 
My belief is that smoking anything won't help your lungs... Lungs don't like smoke. It will do some damage. Damage can lead to cancer. So I'm not going to say there is 0 risk for lung cancer if you only smoke bud. That's dumb imo. But Think about any smoker that you've ever seen get lung cancer, or have really fucked up lung problems... What did they smoke? Tobacco. You don't see some rasta dude with dreads that smoked weed for 50 years dying from lung problems.
 
You can always vape or make edibles, and then if you get lung cancer you just had some shitty luck.

 

 
For accusing everyone around you of being in denial, you sure do sound like someone who's in denial. Just some perspective.
 
For what it's worth, you still haven't given a source of any kind that shows a link between cannabis smoke and cancer. I've provided a federally funded, peer reviewed study conducted by medical professionals over with a sample size of thousands which effectively disproves any such causal link and, in fact, showed potential for health benefits even in spite of the crude method of ingestion.
 
"...the association of these cancers
with marijuana, even long-term or heavy use, is not strong
and may be below practically detectable limits."
 
For anybody who wants to read about it, even just the abstract, here it is: http://publichealth.lacounty.gov/ha/present/Staff_researchpapers/YAn_Cui_Articles/Marijuana_Lungca9.pdf

 

Trust me dude, their have been way more than enough studies done to try and prove cannabis increases risk of cancer... And failed.

Don't you think if their was a case found, it would be all over the news?

And yes it is actively monitored. When you find out you have cancer they ask you a TON of very invasive questions, including if you smoke cannabis. Once you are a cancer patient you are automatically a participant of a large scale cancer study, whether you like it or not. And I know this for a fact, because I have unfortunately known 3 cancer patients, 1 of which was lung cancer.

Edit: also, why does cannabis have to cause cancer? You seem to think that it HAS to cause cancer. Why? Because you smoke it? You can smoke a lot of things, especially tea, so does tea cause cancer? Stop believing the propaganda.

 

I agree.
 
I love pot, but I'm not going to be denial about it. It's not that I really care, but I'm not quite convinced that pot is "100% safe" to use. It must have some negative effects on the lungs -- I mean, you're inhaling smoke.
 
That being said, I'm not saying that pot is a 100% threat either.

 

[quote name="Some Asian Toker" post="19293428" timestamp="1389062548"]I agree.I love pot, but I'm not going to be denial about it. It's not that I really care, but I'm not quite convinced that pot is "100% safe" to use. It must have some negative effects on the lungs -- I mean, you're inhaling smoke.That being said, I'm not saying that pot is a 100% threat either.[/quote]Nothing is completely safe. Being in the sun too long is unhealthy even. Pick your poison, but I can guarantee you that cannabis is safer than that soda pop sitting in your fridge right now.

 

 
Of course. But I was talking about pot, not soda.

 

I read an article that was posted in 2013 that they did a test on this exact subject.
 
The chance of increase in cancer with people who smoke cannabis is equal to someone who doesn't smoke anything at all so there was no difference. 
 
Compared to the ones who smoke cigarettes, which ups their chance of cancer 21 times, compared to those who don't smoke so...Score 1 for cannabis oh yeah haha. 
 
If you are going to pick a poison, make it cannabis.

 

[quote name="Some Asian Toker" post="19293500" timestamp="1389063279"]Of course. But I was talking about pot, not soda.[/quote]Me too, I was just making a point.

 

My doctor told me I could eat all the cannabis I want.

 

From PubMed, by a scientist* who originally started out trying to show that cannabis DID cause lung cancer! He now supports legalization!
 
Effects of marijuana smoking on the lung.    (abst – 2013)   http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23802821
 
"Although marijuana smoke contains a number of carcinogens and cocarcinogens, findings from a limited number of well-designed epidemiological studies do not suggest an increased risk for the development of either lung or upper airway cancer from light or moderate use, although evidence is mixed concerning possible carcinogenic risks of heavy, long-term use."
 
This came out in the <span>Annals of the American Thoracic Society</span>- the title pretty much says it!
 
Cannabis and the Lung: No More Smoking Gun?          (editorial – 2013)
http://www.atsjournals.org/doi/abs/10.1513/AnnalsATS.201302-034ED?url_ver=Z39.88-2003&rfr_id=ori:rid:crossref.org&rfr_dat=cr_pub%3dpubmed&
 
And this one is based on multi-national figures-
 
Cannabis smoking and lung cancer risk: pooled analysis in the International Lung Cancer Consortium      (abst – 2013)     http://www.abstractsonline.com/Plan/ViewAbstract.aspx?mID=3086&sKey=3e3df4f9-a49f-40e7-a260-ccc3c54e0125&cKey=c7c6690d-3e5e-438e-9de4-d6f67a0703fb&mKey=9b2d28e7-24a0-466f-a3c9-07c21f6e9bc9
 
"Our pooled results showed no significant association between the intensity, duration, or cumulative consumption of cannabis smoke and the risk of lung cancer overall...."
 
 
And then this is on the risk of emphysema- keep clear of tobacco, it IS dangerous!
 
Health outcomes associated with long-term regular cannabis and tobacco smoking.
(abst – 2013)       http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23501136
 
"However, all members of the cannabis-only group diagnosed with emphysema were former regular tobacco smokers...... Findings suggest that using tobacco on its own and mixing it with cannabis may lead to worse physical health outcomes than using cannabis alone."
 
And then, there are always these-
 
Cannabis and tobacco smoke are not equally carcinogenic.        (full - 2005) http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1277837/?tool=pubmed
 
Marijuana Use and the Risk of Lung and Upper Aerodigestive Tract Cancers: Results of a Population-Based Case-Control Study          (full - 2006)    http://cebp.aacrjournals.org/content/15/10/1829.full
 
{Delta}-9 Tetrahydrocannabinol inhibits growth and metastasis of lung cancer.  
(abst - 2007)
http://www.aacrmeetingabstracts.org/cgi/content/meeting_abstract/2007/1_Annual_Meeting/4749?maxtoshow=&hits=80&RESULTFORMAT=&fulltext=cannabinoid&searchid=1&FIRSTINDEX=1760&resourcetype=HWCIT
 
Delta9-Tetrahydrocannabinol inhibits epithelial growth factor-induced lung cancer cell migration in vitro as well as its growth and metastasis in vivo.        (abst – 2008)   http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17621270?dopt=Abstract
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Believe me! There are plenty of long term studies on the health effects of cannabis funded by both pro and con groups. But the key concept here is LONG-TERM. It takes time (and $$$$) to do these studies, so don't expect them to be popping up every other week!
 
I hope that helps clear things up!
 
 
Granny
 
 
 
*http://www.cannabisculture.com/content/top-anti-drug-researcher-changes-his-mind-says-legalize-marijuana
 
http://nimbintelevision.net/194

 

 
Did he mention vaporizing or just edibles

 

 
No we did not discuss vaporizing. I was just pleased to have him tell me cannabis is fine.
 
he also told me that any drug that's acceptable will help an ill person get up, move around and live. not lay around stoned.

 

 
i believe it!

 

I was just wondering. Lets just say smoking weed did increase risk of any cancer, especially lung cancer, then would vaping have the same risks, also would vaping decrease/stop tar in the lungs. Never owned a vape so i know nothing about them

 

 
 
Is it ? Show me one recorded document of a person who ended up with cancer of any type from smoking weed .
 
You cant lol . It hasnt happened . Yet there are documented studies showing that cannabis dose not harm your lungs in anyway at all . People say "any sort of smoke is bad for your lungs" . 
 
If that were true , why is it that people who smoke weed for 30 years everyday non stop one day go to get a lung test at the hospital which results in only 3% lung damage ?
 
(Reference from "Super High Me" , Doug Benson) 
 
Anyway , 3% is nothing .. that damage would just be caused by pollution and dust lol 
 
And Uhh , Im pretty sure cannabis does cure cancer lol
 
Or at least almost anyway ... maybe "Cure" is not the word I guess ..
 
Either way , I thought the THC or CBD or whatever makes the cancer cells effectively commit suicide without damaging nearby healthy cells
 
Hence it destroys cancer   -  but dosnt that only happen if you treat it early enough before its spreads ?
 
I think If you treat it late (with cannabis) , then you're just slowing down the rate of the cancer growth . Because its already spread so much , it just pops up somewhere else on your body once eradicated ...
 
Maybe I know nothing , but from what Ive heard - cannabis ingestion DOES cure cancer . Rick Simpsons Miracle Oil ? 
 
I think there's a proof video on youtube somewhere - here it is !!
 
EDIT : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHnQ-YAqAsA
 
 
 
Also , didnt Jack Herer literally cure his prostate cancer with oil ?
 
I thought he did 
 
If so , I think thats your answer lol
 
Anyway , I actually thought there are seven forbidden cures for cancer . Cannabis being one of them ..
 
Is that a myth ? TBH I kinda believe it  

 

 
 

 
 

before you knock Dr Tashkin you should have looked into his credentials a little more and who hired him to do the study, and why. 
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55s3T7VRQSc
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lffUBj0uMKs
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6xxia2mhvY
 
The claims to cure are mostly anecdotal at this point. But even the US government says it has applications for people with cancer, but more as a treatment for symptoms. http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/pdq/cam/cannabis/healthprofessional/page2
 
I love this from our government 

• Cannabis and cannabinoids have been studied in the laboratory and the clinic for relief of pain,nausea and vomiting, anxiety, and loss of appetite (see Question 6 and Question 7). 
• Cannabis and cannabinoids may have benefits in treating the symptoms of cancer or the side effects of cancer therapies (see Question 7).
•  
• Two cannabinoids (dronabinol and nabilone) are drugs approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) for the prevention or treatment of chemotherapy -related nausea and vomiting (see Question 7 and Question 10). 
• Cannabis has been shown to kill cancer cells in the laboratory and to affect the immune system. However, there is no evidence that Cannabis' effects on the immune system help the body fight cancer (see Question 6). 
• At this time, there is not enough evidence to recommend that patients inhale or ingest Cannabis as a treatment for cancer-related symptoms or side effects of cancer therapy (see Question 7). 
• Cannabis is not approved by the FDA for use as a cancer treatment (see Question 9).
• Cannabis and cannabinoids have been studied in the laboratory and the clinic for relief of pain,nausea and vomiting, anxiety, and loss of appetite (see Question 6 and Question 7). 
• Cannabis and cannabinoids may have benefits in treating the symptoms of cancer or the side effects of cancer therapies (see Question 7). 
• Two cannabinoids (dronabinol and nabilone) are drugs approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) for the prevention or treatment of chemotherapy -related nausea and vomiting (see Question 7 and Question 10). 
• Cannabis has been shown to kill cancer cells in the laboratory and to affect the immune system. However, there is no evidence that Cannabis' effects on the immune system help the body fight cancer (see Question 6). 
• At this time, there is not enough evidence to recommend that patients inhale or ingest Cannabis as a treatment for cancer-related symptoms or side effects of cancer therapy (see Question 7). 
• Cannabis is not approved by the FDA for use as a cancer treatment (see Question 9).  

From what I've seen the studies that say they show cannabis causes cancer it is usually a study of carcinogens in cannabis and from their presence they extrapolate that cannabis should be expected to cause cancer, too. But, that is exactly why Dr Tashkin was hired by the US government. He was hired to prove, once and for all, that there was a direct link between smoking cannabis and both lung and face cancer. He found that there is no increased risk, as a matter of fact there is a barely statistically significant reduction in the cases of cancer among heavy cannabis smokers. It's a great interview. It was because of Dr Tashkin and Montel Williams that I am off of 18 different pharmaceuticals and using cannabis now. But I'm not treating cancer.