So saying that the elevated heart rate symptom from cannabis could cause cardiac arrest is propaganda, and not logic? Stoners are in so much denial about their drug.
[quote name="ReturnFire333" post="19273466" timestamp="1388762458"]Here is an account of a 15 year old who suffered cardiac arrest following marijuana and alcohol consumption, and survived. This kid survived, who didn't survive? And how many cases are unreported? How many cases are taken to the hospital, but the cannabis use was never reported and factored in? http://www.casesjournal.com/content/2/1/208[/quote]Youre pretty dumb bud. It doesnt have a direct link to marijuana and on top of that he also consumed alcohol which is a drug you can die from. Just because someone dies eating ihop doesnt mean ihop can kill you.
How do you know this from first hand experience? and weed does increase your heartbeat. But is only temporary and does not lead to heart attacks. I'm blaming the ALCOHOL he consumed. Anyway how do they know the MJ caused his heart-attack. This just says some kid who smoked weed had a heart-attack. Some propaganda bullshit spewing from your uneducated mouth. Your embarrassing yourself by the way. Please just stop.
The doctors in this study believe that cannabis use is what directly caused the cardiac arrest. I doubt the doctors are dumb.
from your link but it was the grass huh ? EDIT: now I could pay the 30 bucks they want for the full clinical paper that would have the level amounts in Jrs blood, + the actual conversation with Jr. to ascertain the amount he smoked and drank before the incident happened.... but I'd rather spend it on something else.. something useful like toilet paper.
He used a variety of other drugs, such as alcohol, cocaine and ecstasy. Plus this is just a doctors opinion, based on little to no evidence. Just do some research and stop replying to this thread with your bullshit. I'm done arguing with you. I don't want to say anything to get myself banned. Someone else will correct your 1960's view on the herb anyway.
Of course you blame the alcohol he consumed, because you are in denial about the drug you use. Alcohol is a depressent, marijuana can be some of both a stimulant and a depressant. Alcohol is not know for causing tachycardia, cannabis is. Therefore, alcohol would not be what I point the finger at first in this case. Use logic, not your overwhelming desire to protect your holy grail drug.
[quote name="ReturnFire333" post="19273476" timestamp="1388762701"]So saying that the elevated heart rate symptom from cannabis could cause cardiac arrest is propaganda, and not logic? Stoners are in so much denial about their drug.[/quote] Why are you on our (marijuana smokers) forum if youre against it. As stupid as us (marijuana smokers) must seem we are usually very intelligent or "normal" people and especially when it comes down to smoking marijuana. Who knows if that kids marijuana was laced or synthetic or infused with chemicals. Im 5'5" 135 and smoked 1/8 of marijuana in a day and i woke up the next day so i dont see what your point is but theres people here who can smoke a pound in a week. Authentic marijuana will never kill someone and if it is legalized there will be no one having panic attacks from it. The worst that can happen is throwing up and after you throw up you'll lose your high a bit and go smoke some more.
Previous cocaine and ecstacy abuse, and no Ritalin in the last 18 months. Toxicology at the time was negative for opiates meaning more than likely opiates did not play a part in directly causing the cardiac arrest. However, the use of those drugs could have put him at a higher risk factor for cardiac arrest, but in the doctors opinion the weed is what caused it.
This forum is not for marijuana smokers only. This forum is not for marijuana users only, atleast not from any rule I have seen. The community here is awesome. Also I am not against cannabis, I am against ignorance and denial being pushed in other peoples faces, like people saying that you can not die from using THC. I think cannabis should be legalized medically, as it is amazing medicine.
For one, I am not a stoner. I medicate when I have pain. Another fact, smoking pot LOWERS BP it dilates the arteries. It is also a bronchio-dilater. So, if your body is getting enough oxygen, one would think heart rate lowers. Just like running causes a increase in heart rate to increase oxygen flow through the body... I cannot help you have a genetic defect and freak out when you smoke pot. One would call it a anxiety attack. LOL
Well you are all so gun ho about google being the holy truth of all information, google rapid heartbeat weed, and read all those accounts. That's not an anxiety attack necessarily, that is tachycardia, which cannabis is known to cause.
I seen shit like this on the news in my town before, but then later it turns out the person that past away took too much Mucinex or Zyrtec before smoking. Sent from my SCH-I545 using Grasscity Forum mobile app
[quote name="ReturnFire333" post="19273513" timestamp="1388763293"]This forum is not for marijuana smokers only. This forum is not for marijuana users only, atleast not from any rule I have seen. The community here is awesome. Also I am not against cannabis, I am against ignorance and denial being pushed in other peoples faces, like people saying that you can not die from using THC. I think cannabis should be legalized medically, as it is amazing medicine.[/quote]Well an overdose of anything in this world will kill you pal. Thats just how the world works. Too much oxygen can kill us as well as too much food can kill us. So in that case you're pretty ignorant yourself for eating food. Maybe that should be illegal as well. Just because one human being died lets say because of cannibis doesnt really mean anything. If a fat bastard dies from eating food should that effect your life and how you eat food?
and I'm not gonna argue that stress ( higher blood pressure, heart rates, increased breathing, etc) can not cause a myocardial infarction. it can . but it is much more likely that same infarction would happen during sex, after a big heavy meal, or even a close call on the freeway. then taking hits from the bong
Who said anything about me using google? I see you like to make assumptions. Also, you cannot rule out you had a anxiety attack. I'm done with this troll thread. good day.
Proof ? or your full of shit.. Who has died from weed? (And weed alone. Not Barney Fife with his bullet because someone lit up a joint or a 1500lb bail of weed falling on someone.) You should watch "The Union". Very informative and is backed up with fact/scientific study. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qbtYY4HFOw
Well you have people here saying that a .3/gram bong hit that caused tachycardia related cardiac arrest is not an overdose. I argue that it is. I'm not ignorant here you were just looking for a quip to hit me with because I have a differing point of view than you. If a fat person dies from choking on food, I would make the argument that it should no longer be considered safe to not thoroughly chew your food before you swallow it.
As a heart patient, with high blood pressure, who's Docs have told me that using Cannabis is ok as long as it's through a vape I would suggest you go back and check your source.
Or with cannbis use, since cannabis use especially in someone with low tolerance causes a clusterfuck of all of those things you listed (with increased breathing being abnormal) all at once. I say it would be likely that cannabis use could cause cardiac arrest.