Hi. Interessting to see and read about your first time. I have been growing cannabis for about 13years now (not continuesly) but i have grown about 3-5 grows a year over the past decade+. I have also tried out almost all types of methods, growing mediums and alot of different lighting over the years. I also had read about and sucked up all info i could before i even ordered my first seeds. I have just bought 3diffrent led lamps on ebay, i got them veeeery cheap and dont have the biggest expectations for these leds since they are chinease cheap leds. But anyway. One of them is called mary jane led growlight and is 216 w or 72 pieces of 3w chips with a fancy lens over each led,almost like penetrator led's lenses. The other two are called sensimilla growlight. One ufo with 45 3w chips (135w) the other is a sensimilla 80 pieces of 3w (240) w. All of them have fans built in and the 240w led have 3 small fans and the 216w that looks best have one giant fan. The ufo also have built in fan but the fans didnt work on that one. They only have 1year warranty but i guess the one with defect fan will have alot shorter lifespan than the others. Im gonna try to open the ufo and check if its just a loose cable inside. Good i have electronics education. Maybe i should order everything i need from somewhere and build my own led panels from now. It will surely be cheaper and i would then know what quality it is inside. Anyone who knows where i can order the latest and best ledchips and everything else i need to build it myself??? Anyway my point of post i made was to get other growers to give feedback on what is the best led brands out there. Id like a top 5 or something. I know PENETRATOR Led is probably the absolute best but still i want tips and reviews about other brands. Also heard about Hans and blackstar led. What brand is your 300w led?how long warranty and how many diffrent colors + fans? And what did it cost new? Is it any 90 or 45 degree lenses on each ledchip.??? I think penetrator led has patented their special 45degree lenses..
I forgot to say that i have never used led before because i have gottn so great results out of hpi hps mh cfl and so on in diffrent combinations. And because one of my friends that has a webshop called northgrow has alwaya said led is a hoax and can never deliver what they promise.. therefore he refuses to import and sell leds. He says that he has gottn alot of inside info that most ledgrows on ex youtube uses hps hpi and only say they have beeen grown under leds and that they change the lights in the growrooms just before starting to film or take photos of their plants. I do not agree with him on all his claims but i know some leds suck and cant deliver similar to hps. But i think brands like penetrator that has a patended lense and alot of hps vs led videos and alot of penetrator vs other ledbrands. I believe they are quite good. And it must be a + with leds when it comes down to heatmanagement and that u can have them closer to the canopys and that they draw alot less power when u get ur bill from the powersupplier. I intend to have a room with 16 (square)pots containing 11l with a mix of cocobricks perlite and soil. I have tried earlier both coco alone soil alone and i tried soil with perlite, coco with perlite and so on. All varieties i have come across i have tried except aerofarm. and except from a waterfarm dwc with coco and 15-18l waterreservoir my far best result has been a mix of 25% perlite, 25% soil,and 50 % coco. I have discovered time and time again that for me this is the best. No need for hydroton ,toprocks or vermiculite. I grew a strain called australian blue from homegrown fantaseeds 90%sativa. A cross of blue haze and an australian outdoor variety called boesi or duck,pure sativa i think. I had to females one in a waterfarm dwc that i after about 2months of veg i added one more pump with double pipes. I used hydroton leccas and a 4inch pot with cocomedium. The breeder stated that it could max produce 150g dried buds but then it needed alot of light and topping was requiered indoors. It was suppose to flower 95- 110 days. But since i added new seeds into the same growroom several times i ended up vegging it for about 4,5months and i had to top and train it several times. At the same time i had one of the australian blue's in only a 10L bucket of cocomedium without any vermiculite or perlite. That one i did not top at all. Damn i regret that i didnt repot it into at least 25-60l pot. Anyway after flowering those two and a bunch of younger plants for 83days i was tipped off by a corupt cop that i was gonna get a houseraid in a few days so i had to chop everything down,wash down my room and take all trashbags of cannabis with me another location. The other plants yielded about 20-55g dried buds but they was only vegged between 3-6weeks and the aussies i had vegged about 4,5months. The one in a10l bucket had roots everywhere and obviously needed alot bigger pot since it was a sativa and grown for so long. I got 97g dried buds from that and they tasted deliciously lemon and worked all in all quite well since they needed 12-27days longer in bloom. The one in dwc had 57 stems/branches with multipple budsites on each. 324g dried buds was the result.. not as good taste in hydro as in only coco but the potency exceeded the other alot. It was allready done in my opinion. After that grow i have never dared to veg a plant so long and i have not had so much in one plant again. Also i forgot to mention that i had 2x 400w hps lights. One 600w hps and one 250w hps + two 250 w cfls. The 600 i used was a philips son green master with improved blue spectrum. One 400w hpi and the rest was normal hps and cfl.
What do u guys that have grown with leds before think about 16 square 11l pots in a room that is about 1,2m2 by 1,2m2 and 2,40m to the ceiling. Planning to veg them about 9weeks after the second real set of leaves appear. Then bloom them 8-10weeks as it is a few diffrent strains. I got critical,ice,thc bomb,pineapple kush,sensi kush. White rhino,and fem trainwreck. Im not gonna have the trainwrecks blooming with any others since greenhouse seedbank themselves say that trainwreck fems get bananashaped pollenbaga in their flower and because of that they practicly are hemaphroditic but they say it only produces a small amount of seeds. Thats fucked up!! Why relaunch a legend of a strain in fem when it is a hermie? Anyway im not sure how many diffrent plants i want to grow longside eachother in same room. Because of hight diffrencies,size,bloomtime and things like that. I know the critical is able to outyield most other strains out there. So i doubt how potent and good tasting it is. Ice is by far the best effect i have ever grown and smoked out of probably over 50-80strains. My alltime favorite without doubt. I also know white rhino is very potent and narcotic painkiller of a plant but i think i have read some say 9weeks flower and some say 11??? I also heard and read that the pineapple kush can get up to 25%thc with a very high cbd1,9%? And it is suppose to yield quite aweaome. Also the thc bomb is stated to be very potent and yield very good but i have not grown it or the pineapple kush or the critical before. Also i cant find out the pedigree of thc bomb other than that it is from bomb seeds and they have bomb1 in allmost all their strains ,it is allso said to be a white strain. Anyone know what pedigree it really has?? Anyone tried to grow sensi kush?a cross between original sensistar and hindu kush.. anyone grown pineapple kush or critical ?? Thc bomb? Trainwreck? White rhino?
Not sure all the details but I got this 300W Advanced Platinum LED Grow Light at AdvancedLEDgrow.com. It is advertised as 11-bands- 760nm, 740nm, 720nm, 660nm, 630nm, 615nm, 480nm, 460nm, 440nm, 415nm, 380nm with 2 switches, one for vegging and one for blomming. However after a few weeks in vegging I use both switches on for more light intensity. They sell it for $369 on the site. This is my first ever grow. Learning a lot. I am going to flip it to 12/12 any day now. My LED is a very bright light however my auto exposure cheap camera makes it look blue green.
Day 12 for the clones, sprouting roots nicely. I have 19 clones rooting so I'll probably do a sog for my 2nd grow.
Im no expert, but i'd want the smaller ones to fill in just a bit more before 12/12. although they will all explode anyway after switching to 12/12. So.. id wait a day or two, but you can do as you wish
No expert at scrog either but depending on your space and how much yield you want i personally would go for 8-9weeks veg time before flowering. Idk what your potsize is,u have maybe mentioned that in this thread but if the roots got more mediumspace to grow in i would certainly wait to at least 8weeks,preferably 9weeks. If u had aurora ww and nl they will all yield much better with longer veg. The quality will after what i know be the same but u will be rewarded bigtime if u wait at least 10 more days. It may differ the endresult with possibly an oz a plant more. Do as u wish i have grown em all but the aurora yielded less than hoped but made up for it in terms of quality. Its a real knockout couchlock. Its very close to nl in genetics but more potent. Idk how much u are aiming for but anyway u will probably have high quality if that led is any good. I have also seen a led vs hps grow on youtube or pottube where the grower had quality leds and a what seemed to be a very serious grow with same room and same clones. 960w led va 1800 w hps. The endresult was a littlebit more yield on hps (1500-1650g) at 16.3% thc i think and the leds yielded about 1350g with 19.2%thc i think it was. Anyway calculeted over to grams pr watt that was about 0.9g pr w on hps with lower thc and 1,3g a watt with the leds.. So good luck,its gonna be nice i hope on your behalf. Im norwegian so sorry my bad grammar
And about the color u get by what u call cheap autoexposure camera, i think all cameras i have seen of led plants with light turned on shows blue res and green more than warm white. Im not sure but thats what i think, many seed sites that posts pics of their plants nice buds use ledlight on when pics are taken,to give an impression of alot of colors in the buds,then they photoshop it to make it more bright around the buds. Not all of em but many. They also take pics of buds and plants with nothing around of measureable objects to make an impression of huge plants in no time,especially autostrains. Remember a autoplant can only grow a given speed and hight in their short vegtime or lifetime before flower. Many think that it is possible to get several hundreds of dried grams pr autoplant but unless a breeder has developed a auto or semiauto that has a much longer vegtime before autoflowering it simply cant be done. Most new autos have a max lifespan of 3-4weeks veg before autoflowering in from 6-8 or 9weeks on top of that. I know u dont grow autos and did not ask about this im just informing on the seedindustries dirty tricks.. also they say g but not dried g and we all know a bud gets from 1/3 to 1/6 of wet weight to dryweight depending on density and indica sativa % cus sativadominant strains mostly are more fluffy buds on , ergo lighter weight. And a thumbrule i learned says that u almost never exceed more dry weight of buds than tenfold the rootspace from liters to grams dry. With that i mean ex: a 11l pot probably wont yield more than max 110g dried. But of course no rule without exceptions. Again good luck and please kiss the sky for me with ur aurora in a few months time when proper dried and cured. Also i want to recommend u to buy a iceolator bubblator or bubblebags to make loads of x3m hashis for your own consumeation ;-)
And by the way if u lower the nighttemp about 10degreea celsius the last 10 days of flower u get more trichomes and a beutifull lilac blue purple shade at least on the aurora. It is also very smart to use ghe ripen the last ten days,it makes the plants go in selfdefence mode and know the season is close to an end and they burst up with more trichomes smell and colors to make look more attractive for other plants so they hope to get pollinated and get offspring.just like animals and so on. They live to reproduce. And last but not least keep em in total darkness the last 24-36 hours.it will also make more potency and colors and taste
This is the overnight poke through growth. The bungee cord keeps the scrog attached to the lid when I need to go under to the reservoir:
Nice i just want to ask what kind of system this is?aero or something. Are the various strains in the same nutrient reservouir? I see a little alarming sign on some of the leafs,are they old nutrient deficiances ,heat stress,magnesium shortage or have it appeared recently. Hard to see exactly what is the issue from this pics but it looks like some plants either has heatstress or been overfertialized or it could be lack of magnesium, not too serious issues but idk if u know what has happened or is happening? I guess if the three varieties are growing with same nutrition and waterreservouir it is because they cant handle the same values of nutrients. If not can it possibly be lack of magnesium or heat? you are probably aware of what has happened i just wanted too doublecheck since i believe u will have a awesome quality endproduct and are afraid that a simple litttle issue would ruin your quality. Hope u dont take it wrong likei
Supposed to end the last post with like i diss your grow,i dont do that at all. I am just worried on your behalf. Good luck and keep up the patience . Patience is golden
lightworker, it is an aeroponic sprayer system modeled after the "see more buds" model. If you look at page 1 of the thread, you can see pictures of the system. Yeah, I had a nute burn issue and those are the affected older leaves. Should I cut them off or just leave them be? Yeah, I learned a lot on my first grow. I learned about patience and letting the plants tell you what it needs. I learned more in one personal grow than reading 500 pages of opinions, haha. The lesson stays with you whereas reading gets convoluted when there is no experience behind the reading. Yeah, they poke through an inch or so a day and I tuck them in and spread them out at night and the little leaves emerge. Very tight node spacing with these strains and the Advanced Platinum LED light. This first grow is from seed. The 2nd grow will be from the 19 clones that I am rooting.
Ahh good to hear. Then u have no problem unless u discover new nuteburns or something. No need to take the old burned leaf away,they store essential plantsugars it will need in bloom. Only if u see some shadeleafs that stops the light from getting to lower parts of the plant that can develop into many more budsites,and if the nodes grow very tight i guess u can see some big leafs that shades from lower new sites to develop to the fullest. Its lots of discussions around exactly that topic,should i remove shadeleafs or not. My personal experience is that i ger more quality in sog if some( only few) shadeleafs are removed. But on the other side it cant staunt the hight a little bit and u may not get as big topshots as if u leave them be but u will certainly get as much budweight probably more buds pr plant and more even high quality from top to bottom. So as i said personly i would remove a few if shading cus i like even quality on all buds but if u want to show off big topshots to people u should leave them. And yeah no doubt u learn alot more from diy than reading,i did too. But off course some basic reading doesnt hurt before the first grows. I read alot of years before my first grow and i still remember most things i have read, but i remember almost a scary amount of what i read. Sometimea i think -do i have asberger syndrome when it comes to things i live for i remember more than normal and btw my first grow was still one of my best grows. And i heard that from holland afterwards that the first grow often gets very good. I used 12diffrent crystals hanging over my plants and played them nice melodic instrumentals and talked to them and cared much more for them than later in my "career" the plants feel your worries and love im very sure of. But not everyone agrees. Peace
Changed my reservoir water, flushing my grow for 24 hrs a week before flowering. Trimming some of the bottom growth, while adding 7 more clones. Now I will have 28 clones for my 2nd grow- a SOG.
Are u satisfied with your led. Whats the actual wattage draw,is it 300w. Is it 3w leds and what was the price. How many colorbands and fans and can u use it for bloom to?