Houston Anthropologist Reveals Irrefutable Proof that Recorded History Is Wrong

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  1. Evidence Found Across the Globe of Highly Evolved Human Species from before the Ice Age, Demand Scientific Recognition of our Past that Depicts Societies of Advanced Technology and Culture
    Houston anthropologist, Dr. Semir Osmanagich, founder of the Bosnian Archaeology Park, the most active archaeology site in the world, declares that irrefutable scientific evidence exists of ancient civilizations with advanced technology that leaves us no choice but to change our recorded history.  An examination of the age of structures across the earth reveals conclusively that they were built by advanced civilizations from over 29,000 years ago.
    <blockquote>“Acknowledging that we are witness to fundamental proof of advanced civilizations dating back over 29,000 years and an examination of their societal structures forces the World to reconsider its understanding of the development of civilization and history,” explains Dr. Semir Osmanagich. â€œConclusive data at the Bosnian Pyramid site revealed in 2008 and confirmed this year by several independent labs who conducted radio carbon testing dates the site at 29,400 +/-400 years minimum.”
    </blockquote>The radiocarbon dating tests of 29,200 years +/- 400 years was done by Radiocarbon Lab from Kiew, Ukraine, on organic material found at the Bosnian Pyramid site. Physicist Dr. Anna Pazdur of Poland's Silesian University first announced the news at a Press Conference in Sarajevo in August of 2008. Professor of Classical Archaeology from the University of Alexandria Dr. Mona Haggag called this discovery “writing new pages in European and World history.” The C14 date of 29,000 years at the Bosnian Archaeological Park was obtained from a piece of organic material retrieved from a clay layer inside the outer casing to the pyramid. It follows a sample date obtained during the 2012 dig season on material located above the concrete at 24,800 years, meaning this structure has a construction profile stretching back almost 30,000 years.
    “The ancient people who built these pyramids knew the secrets of frequency and energy. They used these natural resources to develop technologies and undertake construction on scales we have never witnessed on earth,” said Dr. Osmanagich. Evidence clearly shows that the pyramids were built asancient energy machines aligned with the earth's energy grid, providing energy for healing as well as power.
    Ancient historians in the US have news just as astonishing as anything found in the far corners of the globe. For instance, the Rockwall discovery outside of Dallas, Texas, is only one example of how we are now re-examining ancient mysteries to reveal more about our past, right in the United States. H2 (History 2) popular series Unearthing Ancient America recently filmed an episode about the Rockwall that will air later this year. The Texas site is a complex and massive wall ten miles in diameter built over 20,000 years ago and covered by soil seven stories below the ground. The question is by whom was this structure built and for what purpose and, most importantly, how can knowledge left by these past civilizations help shape our future?
    Newly-revealed or rediscovered traces of ancient civilizations have ignited an innate curiosity about human origins as reflected by recent coverage in mainstream media and TV. The November 2013 issue of National Geographic: 100 Greatest Mysteries Revealed-Ancient Civilizations Unearthed says,
    <blockquote>“Sometimes cultures leave behind mysteries that baffle those who come after them, from standing stones to coded manuscripts, indications that ancient people indeed had a profound purpose.”
    </blockquote>Forward-thinking scientists continue to pursue knowledge from our past that is useful to determine a better future. Renowned author Michal Cremo in his book Forbidden Archeology theorizes that knowledge of advanced Homo-sapiens has been suppressed or ignored by the scientific establishment because it contradicts the current views of human origins that don't agree with the dominant paradigm. Cremo's body of work has been described as “a useful teaching resource, raising a wide range of issues covering aspects of knowledge transfer, sure to be provocative in the classroom.” It has been reviewed with widespread appraisal by hundreds of academic journals.
    Gobekli Tepe in Eastern Turkey
    Results clearly indicate that similar advanced civilizations of humans were present all across the globe at that time in history. For example, Gobekli Tepe located in Eastern Turkey, is a vast complex of enormous megalithic stone circles with a radius of between 10 and 20 meters, much larger than the well-known Stonehenge in Great Britain. Excavations at Gobekli Tepe that began there in 1995 revealed radio carbon dating at least 11,600 years. German archaeologist Dr. Klaus Schmidt from the German Archaeological Institute, Berlin, Germany, with the support of ArchaeoNova Institute from Heidelberg, Germany, has led the excavation of these recently-discovered pre-historic megalithic circles at the Turkey location.
    “Gobekli Tepe is one of the most fascinating Neolithic locations in the world,” Dr. Klaus Schmidt claims. But as he explains in a recent report, to understand the new finds, archaeologists need to work closely with specialists in comparative religion, architectural and art theory, cognitive and evolutionary psychology, sociologists using social network theory, and others.
    <blockquote>“It is the complex story of the earliest, large settled communities, their extensive networking, and their communal understanding of their world, perhaps even the first organized religions and their symbolic representations of the cosmos,” as reported by Klaus Schmidt.
    </blockquote>In addition to the megalithic structures, figures and carvings have been discovered, depicting animals of pre historic nature such as dinosaurs and other wild life. Since excavations started in 1995, four of the circles have been partially cleaned, but it is thought that there are a total of up to 50 circles hidden underground. These vast monoliths, soaring seven meters in height and 25 tons in mass at Gobekli Tepe, are situated right in the heart of what we perceive as the origin of civilization. This find offers new guidance to the true history of earth and our ancient civilizations.
    “Our archaeological research goal is not to simply uncover all of the megalithic circles but to try to figure out their purpose,” adds Schmidt.
    The Bosnian Valley of the Pyramids now in the eighth year of excavation spans six square kilometers in the Visoko River Basin 40km northwest of Sarajevo. Comprised of four ancient pyramids almost three times the size of Giza and an extensive subterranean pyramid tunnel complex, new discoveries each year continue to reveal proof of a much different history of mankind on earth. The central pyramid of the Sun rises a colossal 420 meters in to the air and has a mass of millions of tons. By comparison the Great pyramid of Cheops (Khufu) in the Giza plateau is 146 meters high, making the Bosnian Pyramids the largest and oldest known pyramids on the planet. Since research began at the Bosnian site, Dr. Osmanagich has amazed the scientific and archaeological community by gathering a team of interdisciplinary engineers, physicists and researchers from around the world to conduct open and transparent investigation of the site to try and discover the true nature and purpose of this pyramidal complex.
    <blockquote>“This is an unknown culture presenting highly-advanced arts and sciences, technology capable of forming truly massive structures and we believe in that process demonstrating an ability to harness pure energy resources,” comments Tim Moon, who has recently joined Osmanagich as lead archeologist at the Bosnian site.
    </blockquote>The archaeological project delivered another significant finding this year in the pyramid tunnel complex known as Ravine. Tunneling deep into a ridge line leading toward the Pyramid of the Sun the team has unearthed several megalith stones. In August an enormous stone estimated at 25,000 kgs was uncovered approximately 400 meters into the labyrinth. â€œThis is a hugely significant find,” comments Moon. â€œHere we have a massive stone, possibly a constructed ceramic, buried under hundreds of thousands of tons of material. We are locating foundation walls around its perimeter and cut stone blocks.” Large quantities of artifacts have been recovered from the associated tunnels leading to the site, including effigies painted on stone, art objects and a series of hieroglyphics or ancient texts carved into the tunnel walls.
    Dr. Osmangich stresses that it is time for open sharing of knowledge so we can understand and learn from our past.
    <blockquote>“It is time for us to open our minds to the true nature of our origin and destruction of each other as a civilization on this planet. Our mission here is to realign science with spirituality in order to progress as a species, and this demands a clear path of shared knowledge.”
    </blockquote>http://consciouslifenews.com/houston-anthropologist-reveals-irrefutable-proof-recorded-history-wrong/1167705/#

     
  2. #2 aPersonUponaHill, Nov 26, 2013
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    Okay we know small civilizations existed, or even medium sized ones. But the changing of the landscape entirely with cities was not going on then. It doesnt change anything, it is a forgotten civilization with no impact on the present. It is an interesting footnote, and something many historians, like myself, were saying for a long time was possible in Europe or the Mediterranean, and we should not ignore the possibility. 
     
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    It changes everything, our whole idea of the foundation of human culture and civilization has been changed. We now know that the ancients had and incredibly advanced society in their own right, a technology we don't currently understand. Yet now we have a chance to understand it and the cultural dynamics of the past.
     
  4. #4 aPersonUponaHill, Nov 26, 2013
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    How? Tell me how it has changed? Our origins and beliefs come from the same history, the same past. It changes nothing.
     
    What do you feel the impact is and why? Dont just tell me it does. It doesnt, it was found in what 08? No one still cares, dont you know why? Its as impactful as the 10k year old civs we find in the desert or jungle at times. Around 6000 years ago is when civilization as we know it begins, and takes hold. Important key point, and takes hold. And survives, and prospers.
     
  5. what do they mean by advanced technology? 
     
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    Well we ourselves apply meaning to the things we believe to be meaningful. Our history is perhaps more important than our past, for it establishes a better understanding of our place in the bigger picture and what the future may hold for us. If there were truly ancient civilizations that existed before the times of what we now consider to be the earliest civilizations, whilst also having greater technology, the whole conception of our history is flawed.
     
    To eradicate falsehood and discover truth might be considered one of the goals of humanity as there isn't a particular handbook and our evolution itself has given us the ability to contemplate such things.
     
    What does this mean for other areas of study? What of the idea of Atlantis? We all know that there are legends of a great deluge during ancient times which apparently wiped out a great civilization, many cultures across the world speak of this, it is not isolated geologically.
     
    In essence, our history is not as we believed, and this changes everything.
     
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    I believe the pyramids themselves were a source of energy.
     
    http://youtu.be/vuINhmT3V8Y
     
    Although I am not particularly expert on the field, it makes sense from what I have studied.
     
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    This guy has been trying to prove the Bosnian pyramids for awhile now.. It'd be an awesome find if it really was some massive man made structure, but I have my doubts. All they say is "organic material" and that could be any kind of dead plant or animal that lived and died that long ago.. It'd be more inclined to take it seriously if they said they found something man made. Below is an example of what others theorize them to be, flatiron mountains.
     
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    And if they did find some legit tunnels, it wouldn't surprise me. I could totally see ancient man carving out some tunnels for shelter and it wouldn't have been a hard feat to do with simple tech.. but can I believe there are actually massive pyramids under there? No... not til they expand on what they're calling organic material.
     
  9. It is fair to be skeptical, I personally feel as though there might be a certain select few who would be content without this knowledge spreading, I kind of wish they gave the dude more funding for the research though.
     
  10. #10 MelT, Nov 26, 2013
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    This has been debunked so many times.
     
    PP, this is why you come over as...well....like you do. You come up with a debunked story that you haven't researched and have said yourself it's fair to be skeptical about it, and yet, just a post ago you were saying about it:
     
     "..It changes everything, our whole idea of the foundation of human culture and civilization has been changed. We now know that the ancients had and incredibly advanced society in their own right, a technology we don't currently understand..."
     
    Even before you knew how valid the story is you were saying 'we now know' something, when we don't. All you need to do to avoid further criticism is simply check out what you post first, that's all. 
     
    MelT
     
    Mark Rose refers to the following quotations from Osmanagić's book The World of the Maya, which he suggests includes "bizarre notions", such as that "the Maya and others are descended from Atlanteans who came from the Pleiades."
    \t\t\t\t“\t\t\t\t\t\t\tIt is my theory that the Maya should be considered watchmakers of the cosmos whose mission it is to adjust the Earthly frequency and bring it into accordance with the vibrations of our Sun ... Their ancestors, the civilizations of Atlantis and Lemuria, erected the first temples on energy potent points of the Planet. Their most important function was to serve as a gateway to other worlds and dimensions."\t\t
     
  11. #11 Sam_Spade, Nov 26, 2013
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    I missed him in Chicago over the weekend. :smoke:
     
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    It's not about funding though. He has yet to provide any credible evidence and is being restricted by regional committees and such cause they don't want him tearing up 3 mountains that border their town..
     
    I want you to employ some critical thinking. Not about your belief or yourself, but of the article you provided. If you hadn't already, ask yourself why would the claim "organic material" and not specify what the organic material is if they're providing it as solid evidence? If this organic material was something man made, what was it? If it was a tool, why would some advanced society drawing free energy from the Earth be using animal products as tools? It'd either be a tool, something turned into clothes or shelter, or their food. Maybe the article couldn't expand on what the organic material was because the "scientist" didn't expand on it? Which circles back to why would a legit scientist bent on providing real evidence for his theory not give a few more details on the organic material? If he knew what it was, he would say what it was.. and again, organic material could be anything that was living. I could go out and dig up some soil from 100,000 years ago and say "I found organic material 100,000 years old, this proves there was an advanced civilization 100,000 years ago!".. but it doesn't work like that.. No one would take me seriously unless I provided more of a claim other than just organic material.
     
    Also, here is a representation of the pyramids.. and to me they don't look like anything man made is under them..
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    Here is a photo of a different set of flatiron mountains in Russia. The other photo earlier was of flatiron mountains in Colorado.
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    A good scientist would leave his personal beliefs at the door when it comes to research and discovery, or at the very least would not only question the subject at hand, but himself and his personal beliefs. Ask yourself this, did you overlook the fact that they haven't actually provided evidence because it fits in with your personal belief?
     
    Also, I just now went to their actual site. http://www.bosnianpyramids.org/index.php?id=36&lang=en
     
    A damn leaf.. What the hell does that prove exactly? That there were leaves in existence that long ago? Duh. I could see it if they thought it was part of some kind of mortar mixture or something, but it was a fossilized leaf.. More than likely fell from a tree and got stuck in a layer of clay. Again, if they were so advanced, why were they incorporating leaves into their building?
     
  13. You are right, I was disappointed with the lack of detailed information. And it is quite possible that it might not be a man made structure, as the picture evidence itself is not even that clear. When the entire information is not given, one comes to a conclusion through only the things he is given, I feel that there is evidence in many other places that make it quite plausible that these are pyramids made by man.

    There have been pyramids found in china, South America, Egypt and apparently even at the floor of the Atlantic Ocean. The Chinese government has not allowed public inquiry into their pyramids, the Egyptian pyramids have been judged as being nothing extraordinary although many would beg to differ.

    How could the Egyptians have oriented their pyramid with perfect accordance with the points of the compass?

    There is far too much evidence to suggest a history differing from our current model.
     
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    Now that we've crossed the bridge of lack of scientific data, can we agree that this doesn't really belong in the science section? It's only a theory, yet the way you promote it is if it's a fact.. "Irrefutable proof the recorded history is wrong" is far from any kind of title I would write, mainly cause it's far from irrefutable. If I was you and I was hell bent on bringing this here, along with most of your other theories, I would bring it here as a question and not an answer. Like "Guy claims to have found evidence of unknown advanced civilization, what do you guys think?" rather than "Guy claims to have found evidence of unknown advanced civilization, our history is going to be rewritten if the powers that be weren't trying to cover up this information." It's a borderline conspiracy theory..
     
    As far as the pyramids in China, most of them are known burial mounds.. like why most other pyramids were built. There are people who are researching them everyday, just like most other pyramids. Since they're burial mounds, they do have historical significance.. In order to know everything there possibly is to know about burial mounds in China or pyramids in Egypt, you'd pretty much have to dismantle it entirely. We don't want to do that.. so precautions and restrictions need to be in place. The ones in Brazil are much different than others. The Brazilian ones were made over long periods of time and were constructed with a ton of seashells.. That's why they got over looked at first, just seemed like a waste pile for a past group of peoples.
     
    Most people who study the reality and myth behind the pyramids of Egypt aren't going to look at it like it's nothing extraordinary.. If they did, they wouldn't be studying them. It's just the reality of them is boring to some people, so they go with the myth. To me, the reality is far greater than the myth. Knowing that WE once worked together on a massive scale to build these structures that have endured time is extra extraordinary.. They had the night sky available to build it in a similar fashion of N, S, E, W.. Nothing mystical about that and it honestly wouldn't surprise me if they had a functioning compass of sorts. All you need to do is add some energy to a needle and float it, it'll point north for you.. You can even get static electricity from your hair to energize the needle, don't assume our ancestors were dumb.
     
    And the pyramid in the Atlantic Ocean.. not so much. Here is the only "evidence" of it, a sonar photo..
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    Again, doesn't look like the man made pyramids we know of.. Here is a tinfoil hatter with a video about it. Notice right before 2 minutes, he says how it's perfect and symmetrical, a bold faced lie.
     
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEFTWFSTnx0
     
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    That sonar picture looks exactly like a pyramid with a flat top. Also, I think it is entirely viable to have this thread in the science and nature forum because even though many people like to think they have the answers, there are evidences that make it quite questionable. I just copied the title of the article, I personally do not think there is currently enough evidence, although I do hypothesize that the main idea of this article is correct.
     
    Contrary to assuming the ancestors were dumb, I believe them to be smarter than we think. I find the current model and backstory of the building of the pyramids to be insufficient and incapable of truly describing it. It is simply the dogma in science which has fettered the possibility of a more likely theory. There are aspects that are too easily overlooked, like the universality of the pyramid structure, and the electric phenomena of the pyramids of Giza. They say the pyramids of Giza were also tombs, but there is no evidence to suggest they are.
     
    There are entire theories that have not been looked at properly and have been ignored, falsely debunked and generally ridiculed. These theories are slowly gaining more traction, because they take into account all the evidence and incorporate reflexivity into them.
     
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    Anyone who takes science at least somewhat seriously wouldn't refer to it as dogmatic.. There is no higher authority that takes control of what should be true or not, it's not religion. There are paradigms in science, but there are no dogmas unless the individual blindly subscribes to one.. All these asinine theories you keep bringing here are theories that have been around for a long time and have not been able to make it through the scientific method, which really isn't that big of a requirement. Most of these theories were around and pretty much exactly the same when I was your age and kind of bought into them a lil bit, admittedly not much, 10 years ago.. There has been plenty of time for someone to produce some credible evidence rather than just theories, and would you imagine that, NO one has..
     
    I feel as though you really need to take a break from trying to understand life and just live it.. Wait til you're passed the age of 25, when your brain finishes up maturing and isn't so impressionable, to contemplate life. Maybe then YouTube videos where they spent more in production than research won't hook you like a hungry fish.
     
  17. #17 Sam_Spade, Nov 27, 2013
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    This is just... there is too much to discuss here.
     
    I just want you to know that this is comedically non-scientific in scope. Ambiguious empirical claims, and faulty jargon does not make it science. And that's pretty much all there is to this thread.
     
  18. Ahh, perhaps you are right in some sense. I do not entirely agree with what you say, for there is more to it than that, but I need to learn more if I am to be talking about things, or really, I just need to put in the effort to actually make my understanding more accessible, for I feel like my hypothesis on various things is correct, I've simply been to lazy to prove it.
     
  19. And actually, after a few seconds of research, it would seem that there is not much evidence to suggest it is man-made. I'm sorry guys. :(
     
  20. I've studied gobekli tepi a whole lot and it's really amazing. There was another amazing site that dated to the same time as gobleki tepi temples, discovered near a damm. I can't remember which damm it was now. Anyways, the govt gave the archaelogists a few months to study the site before they let the flood waters forever wash this human history away.

    America was a nation of native Americans, with trade routes and cities and even pyramids. To rid the world of the truth of what really happened, they only have to sell a believable lie. A distraction allows the truth to be submerged. The oldest native American pyramid is being destroyed to make a parking lot. Google it and see. It's quite shocking.

    IMO, and my theory is that civilizations advanced to the point that they created weapons similar to nukes and destroyed the earth. I use the example that most living humans who haven't researched their own history lose track of where they came from in as little as 4-5 generations back....

    If something catastrophic happened and most of the elderly didn't survive to write down history, it would be a wise tale by word of mouth until it died off with some unsuspecting person who didn't know the Importance of their knowledge.

    I learned first hand about this complex process in my years studying anthropology, cultural anthropology, and ethnomusicology.

    It's really fascinating stuff. Obviously, there were people here before us who utilized technology that we do not remember or understand.

    Wouldn't it be unique if the wealthiest people in the world knew the technology and kept us in the dark on purpose? It's just a thought but would make an excellent book/movie.
     

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