Will vaporizing cannabis impact my spinal fusion

Ah, that study you just posted confirms why I don't get pain relief from vaping. THC doesn't help me much, I process my material in a way that breaks down to mostly CBDs.

 

Thank you, I have seen that list before but it is so helpful. I keep a copy on my computer. If you ever find something that shows the breakdown with a steady temp at 225F but processed for long periods of time, that would be interesting. I haven't seen anything that shows that info and I keep my temps at 225F for both decarbing and heat processing. I know that the cannabinoids are altered or vaporized at certain temps but they are also altered at the same low temps if you heat it for several hours. 
 
I also have nerve pain but mine probably is not as serious as yours. We don't know the cause of mine, just found it after my sciatica pain is still here after a year and a half and they finally did some nerve conduction studies and muscle electromyography tests. 
 
I have Ehlers-Danlos and it includes a vertigo-inducing list of comorbid conditions and sometimes seemingly bizarre symptoms of which I have many. I would have been dead if I did not have cannabis. I was at the end of my rope. I'm still close to the end of the rope but at least I've been able to add a knotted notch or two to slow the descent. 

 

This is an excellent chart, thank you! I have not seen this one. 

 

 
 
Then you may like this:
 
Cannabinoids mediate analgesia largely via peripheral type 1 cannabinoid receptors in nociceptors
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2503660/
 
I get my best pain relief from topical preparations rubbed on or near the site of injury.  I use Cannabis topicals and the oil I make for asthma even for a fresh tooth extraction.  In my back when my nerves are pinched I still have to stretch things out and get back in alignment (herniated disks and a stenosis).  Having the cannabis rubbed on my back first clears up enough of the other daily aches, arthritis and tight mussels so I can feel what I need to do to straiten up and put all the discs back away where they belong with a little Yoga.
 
if you would like to read more think about these titles:
 
Evaluation of Prevalent Phytocannabinoids in the Acetic Acid Model of Visceral Nociception
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2765124/
 
Cannabinoid-opioid interactions during neuropathic pain and analgesia
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2234438/
 
Cannabinoid receptor-mediated antinociception with acetaminophen drug combinations in rats with neuropathic spinal cord injury pain
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2826109/

 

I will definitely check these out, thank you Honokiol.
 
How do you make your topicals? I have rubbed just the edible oil I make onto my skin with excellent results but am going to try to source local beeswax to make a better formula. I am hoping to use these ingredients : calendula (for basic skin soothing properties as my skin is also affected), MMJ, coconut oil, almond oil, apricot oil, local beeswax, vitamin E (for skin benefits and preservative), and lavender flowers. I'd like it to smell like raw honey, lavender, and calendula if I can do it right. Good thing I like to experiment. 

 

I, too, feel awful knowing others are suffering. Life is a bitch sometimes, I guess. 
 
I don't have as much experience as many others when it comes to cannabis as I am still a new user and have only been using less than a year. I did, however, jump into some of the science first as far as how to properly prepare an oil and why things are done at certain temps, certain times, with certain ingredients, etc. After I felt comfortable with my knowledge level, then I made my first oil. I am extremely low income so I couldn't chance it not working. Then from there I just continued experimenting with different concentrations, lengths of time, freezing/thawing, etc. I test every step of the way to see what works best for me. 
 
I hope that the feeling returns in your foot and that your recovery from the fusion goes incredibly smoothly and is a great success. My body does not process medications normally, especially with opiates and so I can't even imagine going through a surgery like that. I had foot surgery on both feet at 16/17 years old and I had zero pain relief once I woke up in the recovery room and from then on out. Nobody believed how excruciating it was even after I basically freaked out on the staff at one point when they wanted me to walk down the hall on the feet I just had cut open and the pain meds weren't working. I was fainting from pain for WEEKS. So I have a hard time just thinking about a spinal surgery like that. I just can't imagine the pain and such. 
 
Do they think your sciatica pain will disappear because they corrected your spine or will it impact that part of the pain only a bit/not at all? 
 
I have had the same struggles that you have had with physicians except even more extreme. I have been flat-out abused on many, many occasions. We just discovered that I have EDS this year and I look mostly normal with mostly normal labs. It took 30 years to find a diagnosis even though I have had serious health problems (not life-threatening but still very serious) my entire life. I was diagnosed failure to thrive twice as a baby and that was just the beginning. I have mental health issues that have been pretty extreme at times, including hospitalizations, and most of this was exacerbated by living with an invisible serious illness and then being abused by medical professionals. Many of my doctors have blood on their hands and they know it. 
 
Try to keep fighting if you ever continue to experience this in the future. These physicians need to start learning how their actions cause a ripple effect with their patients' emotions and physical health as well. They need to learn when to start looking for other causes of the problem if they have a patient reporting constantly to them for years and years. That means it probably isn't psychosomatic but the cause hasn't been discovered. If the illness is psychosomatic then the mental healthcare they force on us would probably be at least partially beneficial and cut down on those patients' visits to the doctor in the long run.Drug seekers also don't tend to keep returning month after month for years on end with no drugs in their system and still complaining of pain. I would think it would be easier for them to get it elsewhere and quit wasting time on these doctors. If people are still reporting consistent problems after all of that, then those doctors need to get their heads out of their collective asses and look for something else. 

 

I hope that your sciatica pain does indeed go away and that all the effects from the surgery are those that you were hoping for. 
 
I think you are right that experiences such as these make us stronger but I would have rather not experienced this for myself. It has caused me to lose everything important to me, including people. It has impacted literally every single thing I do, every single day. I cannot step away and get a break. I may have days with less pain but the impact of my condition is still with me in the way my joints move, and in every system in my body. I have heart problems, mental health problems, severe dental problems, digestive problems, etc etc that the cannabis can't really help with. I also do not feel like I am very strong, usually. But I know many out there with the same or worse problems than what I have and they feel differently from me. Everybody is different and I just try to remember that for myself and also to remind others because I've had people tell me that it isn't that bad or that someone else is worse off and still doing better than I am. No one's experiences should be minimized but everyone with chronic pain will probably still experience that at some point. 
 
You are right about it being hit or miss with things like the brain and spine. I do think that it is often hit or miss when it comes to many, many health issues and that there needs to be more awareness on the physician's part that every person feels pain differently, every person REACTS to that pain differently, just because some tests results don't LOOK like they can cause people to be in excruciating pain doesn't mean that that isn't happening, and also that there are so many invisible illnesses that it isn't even funny. I have heard countless number of people ill-treated by medical professionals for years before the disease or condition that person has becomes known. It is time for that to stop. Too many in the healthcare field are more concerned about patients being addicted to drugs when the numbers are far higher in patients being under-managed and under-treated. Yes there is drug abuse and such, but we are suffering at their expense. 
 
Sorry for the rant, passionate subject as you can tell. 
 
I have enjoyed chatting with you. I get lonely sometimes and you really improved my day. Thank you.

 

 
I wrote this a while back in a different thread & moved it into my blog this AM to make it easier to find.  Hope it helps some one
 
http://forum.grasscity.com/blog/9461/entry-12280-thoughts-on-making-topicals/
 
There are lots of good recipes out there, making Topicals is a big subject.  I will be disappointed If you don't read more than a few and then build your self something custom that fits your individual needs and likes.  I may or may not spend some time rereading and editing it.

 

hey, during the winter of 2002 i shattered my L1-L4 and t10-t12, i too was on heavy opiates oxy, dilaudid(strongest form of opiate available to man)(had a nerve block inserted in my spine leading to a drip with push button for pain for 1 year of my life)after that nothing worked,(at the time i had not smoked in 2 years)1st time i took a puff i coughed and un did months of recovery, second surgery about a week after 1 puff, started eating and using lozenges, containing thc and as mentioned i went for high CBD strains(also thc converts to cbd and vise versa via sunlight and oxidation from the air(thats why people cure buds in dark air tight container for maximum thc)unfortunately i did not com across the tincture until just recently in  the last year or so and the benefits are amazing, noting helps me for pain more then a good tincture. also ive had 20 or so different broken bones and such seen in my photo,that is real along with the 10 screw and a plate in my right(same arm)wrist, hope this helps from a fellow pain suffer! 

 

also tincture is incredibly easy to make, just make iso hash, or if you already have kief on hand(dryer,more crumbly works best)peppermint oil and walla, easy to use rub, i use about 1 gram keif to 1 0z of tincure, posted above the lavender looks interesting,also can ad just about anything to the rub just whip it in.

 

Nugasawrus, do you have a copy of my List yet? I might have a few studies that you have missed. If you don't know what my List is, just click that first link in my sig, scroll past the intro,and take a peek- that is an older, much smaller version of what I have for you. To get yourself a free PDF of my List, checkout the bottom of my sig and send me an email. Or you could PM me you email- either way works!
 
And you hang in there, hon! You have both brains and courage, and they will take you far!
 
 
Granny

 

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