Better To Not Protest the NSA Than To Hold Hands With Libertarians, Says Progressive Scribbler

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Deleted member 472633, Oct 23, 2013.

  1. http://reason.com/blog/2013/10/21/better-not-to-protest-the-nsa-than-to-ho
     
    Later, Watson goes on to describe libertarians as really authoritarian because "it's always about the man on the balcony" whatever the fuck that means. Cuz progressives don't really mean it when they go all control-y, but libertarians secretly do because Hayek hearted Pinochet. But we already got that Watson doesn't like us from the whole child-predator thing.
    The true larf riot comes with this tidbit, apparently written after Watson awoke from a stroke that erased the last decade. Or three.
    <blockquote>Going “all in” with the libertarian purists is a fatal and unnecessary compromise; reform is clearly needed, but the presence of anti-government laissez-faire wingers at the beating heart of the privacy movement will surely sour the very political actors that movement desperately needs to make actual – and not symbolic, link bait – progress in its fight.
    I speak of the progressive movement and the Democratic Party, of course.
    For those whose feet still touch the ground, the path to NSA reform so clearly lies inside the Democrats' big tent – and runs through its liberal wing. And because we are a liberal republic, whose central government is not leaving the landscape anytime soon (the libertarians' fondest goal), change must also run through an elected Congress.
    </blockquote>Democrats? Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Your Cell Phone) took to the pages of USA Today to defend NSA surveillance as recently as yesterday. Sen. Harry Reid (D-Your Email In Box) called Edward Snowden a "traitor" for revealing the NSA's excesses. And President Obama, who is, in fact, a Democrat, loves him some NSA surveillance.
    [​IMG]<span>The Muppets</span>So, of course do Republicans. Rep. John Boehner (R-Orange) shares Reid's sentiments about Snowden. Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-The Inquisition) digs the NSA, and so does Sen. John McCain (R-Get Off My Lawn).
    The whole establishment, Democrat and Republican, favors an intrusive surveillance states. It's left to mavericks like Sen. Ron Wyden and Sen. Rand Paul to provide opposition to the NSA that's affiliated with either major party. That's why a coalition reaching across partisan lines, and certainly not restricting itself to one or the other compromised and deeply authoritarian major party, is necessary to press for change. And libertarians, with our inherent suspicion of the state, are a natural part of such a coalition.
    That inherent suspicion may explain why Edward Snowden, before revealing the NSA's shenanigans, contributed money to libertarian-Republican Ron Paul's political efforts. He was also called "a libertarian hero"-at Salon.
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    No wonder the left continues to try and ignore Snowden's revelations he is a libertarian after all.

     
  2. meh, people who truly care about civil liberties aren't concerned about the affiliations of other people who truly care about civil liberties. 
     
  3. Yes partisanship is one of the biggest enemies to liberty. Once you start drawing lines, the people are at war with themselves. This is one of the most biased things I've ever read. We're a liberal republic when the president's "progressive"? All this time I thought we were a constitutional republic.
     
  4. Hey Lenny, what happened to your av? :confused:
     
  5. what do you mean? 
     
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    Maybe you're a different "Lenny." I don't think he has a period after his name.
     
  7. #7 Lenny., Oct 23, 2013
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    Well I've had the period ever since I changed my display name. Lenny was taken. 
     
    I had dave grohl as my avatar
     
    taken from this 
     
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  8.  
    Ok, then you're not the one I thought you were if you say "Lenny", with no period, was taken.
     
    What was your old screen name?
     
  9. lenny88
     
  10. "The unforgivable sin of reaching across party lines?" Why must the media keep this country divided? We all need to vote independent in all further elections to send these people a message; that everyday americans can govern americans, and we don't need party-entrenched corporate intrests dictating govt policy. Ventura 2016!
     

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