EU accuses Palestinians of wasting €2 billion in aid

Discussion in 'Politics' started by J-DILLA, Oct 14, 2013.

  1. http://www.timesofisrael.com/eu-accuses-palestinians-of-wasting-e2-billion-in-aid/
     
     
     
    Its unfortunate that the Palestinians have elected such corrupt politicians; its as if they just keep digging their own hole, deeper and deeper.

     
  2. http://www.timesofisrael.com/eu-accuses-palestinians-of-wasting-e2-billion-in-aid/
     
    I guess we will have to wait until the actual report is published to see what is really going on. All speculation until then J.
     
  3. Fair enough.
     
    Do you think Palestinians are wasting aid money? Look at Arafat, who left his wife with billions in a European bank account, while Palestinians lacked basic needs.
     
  4. #4 SmokinP, Oct 14, 2013
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    More than likely there is corruption and waste of public funds in Gaza and the West Bank. Government types tend to be corrupt by their nature.
     
  5. #5 J-DILLA, Oct 14, 2013
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    Do you not think that is a reason as to why Palestinians live in less than great conditions? Not many politicians are known to squander billions of dollars in aid money, as the most famous Palestinian (Arafat) did during his term.
     
    There is corruption in every government, no doubt, but the Palestinian governments are probably one of the least considerate with their own citizens.
     
  6. #6 SmokinP, Oct 14, 2013
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    The allegations of corruption against Yasser Arafat are sketchy at best. That said it is certain that Arafat was not what would be considered careful with such details as accounting and doing things "by the book". Various Israeli Intelligence goons have made all sorts of wild allegations but an investigation by the IMF found that there was no improprieties and that the sums alleged were invested in Palestinian assets.  An investigation after his murder carried out by US accountants alleged that there were secret portfolios but this again is also disputed.
     
    Arafat was in very difficult circumstances and under threat of death at all times from the state of Israel. He surrounded himself with security who had access to all of his financial dealings and it would not be a stretch to say that he could have been taken advantage of and swindled. The same is true for the likes of Fatah and Hamas today who must spend a considerable amount of time watching their backs every day and waiting to be whacked by Israel. When a government has to operate under such conditions things tend to get done quickly and in a hap hazard way which can make accountability and correct record keeping. 
    We will only be able to judge Palestinian governments and leaders when they are able to govern under normal conditions.
     
    The Israeli government and their lackies do all they can to smear the various Palestinian leaderships in an attempt to throw the spotlight off their own savagery and brutality. 
     
  7. #7 J-DILLA, Oct 14, 2013
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    Uhhh, I don't think these are just "allegations anymore."  It is widely known that Arafat squandered billions in aid money.
     
     
    http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,995651,00.html
     
    http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/05/17/214664.html
     
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yasser_Arafat#Financial_dealings
     
    Arafat Diverted $900 Million to Private Account, IMF Says
    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=arNczoMikRug
     
     "Arafat's Billions, One Man's Quest To Track Down Unaccounted-For Public Funds
     
     
     
     
     
     
    Trying to blame Israel is futile, as the PA receives aid money directly. Nice job trying to blame Israel for  massive corruption amongst Palestinians.
     
  8. #8 SmokinP, Oct 14, 2013
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    As I stated earlier Arafat was under immense pressure from the state of Israel who were rabid in their desire to kill him. This led to things being done in a hap hazard way by both Arafat and his advisers. It is hard to run a government when maintaining ones survival is the number one priority. The state of Israel has done all it can to attempt to stain Arafat's legacy but yet again they have failed dismally. Arafat is a colossal of world politics, a man that dedicated his whole existence to fighting for his people and nothing that any Israeli state goon or their lackies throw will ever diminish this. They have tried to smear his legacy from the day he died and continue to since.
     
    The fact that Hasbara "types" to this day still try and stain the memory of Yasser Arafat is tribute to his enduring legacy and place amongst the most noble and courageous leaders the world has ever seen.
     
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    Nice to see your support for terrorist groups that have massacred many innocent fellow countrymen of yours.
     
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingsmill_massacre
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloody_Friday_(1972)
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omagh_bombing
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Mon_restaurant_bombing
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claudy_bombing
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remembrance_Day_bombing
     
     
     
    Quite disturbing, no?
     
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    Ahh yes, the Israelis forced Arafat to squander billions in desperately needed aid. :rolleyes:
     
     
    So you steal billions in aid money and put it in an offshore bank account? Give me a break here, your apologist rebuttals are getting more and more ridiculous.
     
  11. #11 SmokinP, Oct 15, 2013
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    They are no countrymen of mine.
     
    Colonists planted here by the British Crown who subjected "my countrymen" to the same type of discrimination and brutality that the Israeli state has subjected the Palestinian people too. 
     
    Colonists and thieves should expect to face resistance from the native people of the lands they invade.
     
  12. Smokinp will blame israel on anything palestine related. Even if a dog farts in Gaza its israel fault or a mussad member or some other shit.

    They "need" aid and concrete for their homes... These poor palestinians. Maybe its time they ditch hamas terror way and actually invest in themselves, with all the aid and money they getting worldwide they could have been an empire. A wise man will do just that.. But they ...
     
  13. Exactly

    The entitlement culture taught to the Palestinians has made them puppets of the leftists and Israel haters.

    Hopefully they will realize one day that killing innocent Israelis will not give them what they want.
     
  14. Most of the IRA victims have been innocent civilians.....
     
  15. Most of the IRA's targets have been military personnel actually.

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    source?
     
  17. #17 J-DILLA, Oct 16, 2013
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    No source for you.
     
    Don't know why I said that in my previous post  :smoking:
     
    Here is a post of mine with a list of many attacks and massacres committed by the IRA upon civilians.
     
    \n\n\n\nThe difference between the Irish separatists and Palestinians is that the Palestinians were offered their own nation back in '47 and chose war instead, losing to the Jews.
     
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    Did you even take the time to read through the links you copied and pasted J ?
     
    If you had you would see quite clearly that some of the bombings you have attributed to the IRA were in fact carried out by other rogue Republican groups (Omagh) and that the IRA have stated that the bombs did not hit the intended targets (British military) in other attacks.
     
    The IRA had a policy of attacking military targets only but like in any war sometimes mistakes were made and civilians were slaughtered. 
     
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    is there anything in those links that backs up your claim with solid numbers?
     
    that's a lot of reading man..
     
  20. Lol. Not going to waste my time proving the IRA has massacred many innocent people and that smokinp supports them.

    The sources are in the wiki.
     

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