Better to keep mother or Use Clone as new mom

The only time you will have genetic drift is when you take clones from an unhappy mother.....I run clones off the current cycle....no mothers..I have found that most strains by the 3 generation are the best. If you take cuts off a happy plant it will be as dank as the first gen. Over and over again. I have also had sativas that wanted to throw male flowers and by the 3rd gen....no more flowers.

 

I'm not a scientist but if you a have a plant that is susceptible to herm. If you can make it happy it has no reason to try to reproduce. Sativas are more of a wild plant than indicas you never know what them bitc#es will do.....but I love sativa over indica.

 

I have read that Sativas from near the equator have a chance of going hermie. It's in their genetics.

 

Yes its genetics from a harsh environment. On the other hand some of the most knock you on your ass stuff comes from around there and the 39 parallel....don't quote me though cuz I'm not a big fan of geography.

 

If you're planning on keeping certain plants in circulation either way, then having mothers just uses up space, nutrients and lighting/area that you could be using on productive plants. You should definitely be taking your cuttings from the previous batch of cuts, whether during veg, or preferably during early bloom. 
 
 The only time (or times) that you should really have a mother plant, are when you plan on temporarily retiring a plant and you're taking it out of circulation for a cycle or two, but you don't want to lose her for good... or if you feel like your grow location is not secure; you feel you could be robbed; or you don't want to lose genetics during a bust; and you have an entirely different property where they are stored as backup (in which case the most efficient thing to do would still be to run them as production plants, in tandem with your main grow area off the property... keeping a perpetually vegging mother plant elsewhere, would still be a less efficient use of energy compared to maintaining a production plant with those same resources... a regularly occurring flowering cycle saves you a ton of light/energy/bulb-life in the long-run, too ).
 
 
  But really if another property for preservation is out of the question, and the pants are staying in circulation and you just want a reliable source for clones, you already have plenty of cloning material available!
 
 
  Here's a post, within a post () on the same topic from a past thread or two.. should cover everything you needed to know.
 
 
 
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You'll usually have faster results with revegging if you take cuts during bloom, rather than revegging the entire plant first, and as a bonus it
multiplies your plant count faster and can improve distribution in your room if it's large enough to house multiple plants, which
can be a good thing if it was a killer pheno and you have space for more than a single bush. <span></span>


And if it's important to save the plant, it can be a good idea to divide your eggs among several baskets so to speak, rather
than placing all your hopes and dreams in a single chance at revegging... taking cuttings while the plant is still healthy, will improve your odds of success. <span></span>


Just be sure your medium is in good condition and that your environment is dialed in, humidity, temperature and nutrition wise,
and you'll have cuttings rooting in 3 - 5 days, and depending on the strain, new vegetative growth around the 7th. <span></span>




Here's one of my older posts on a similar topic, it may interest you if you like the idea of revegging. <span></span>



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I haven't taken a cutting during veg in years!
 
 
 Flowering cuts root just as fast, and with newly developing root systems and lesswoody growth, they have fewer overall
blooming hormones to purge and more vigor than a plant with woody tissue and a winding-down root system, that
thinks it's reached the end of its life cycle. As such the cuts only ever seem to require a scant few days under 18/6 - 20/4
to begin reverting back to veg.
 I take my cuttings after the current crop begins producing the initial 'golf ball' pre buds, between 20 - 25 days of 12/12.. when
you still have a lot of early fluffy white hair growth and premature calyxes, the turn around is fairly rapid. When I take cuts
during harvest, so far along and after being flushed, it can take a good 10 or so days... which still is about a week+ faster than
revegging the entire plant in most cases, and it provides me with multiple plants, all with healthy new root systems. <span></span>


But when taken during mid bloom, while well fed, I'll see fresh vegetative growth from my re-vegged clones, during the first
week after being cut, usually occurring within roughly the same 24 - 48 hour time frame that traditionally/normally vegged
cuts begin picking up the pace, after being cut.


And as a bonus, when reversed, the hormonal levels that cause compact and dense growth, and the 'hyper noding' that becomes
what we see as bud, produce a multi-armed candelabra type effect, where you'll see four or six, to sometimes as many as
ten or fifteen new branches, all protruding from one originating point...
This gives you a killer yield, and can dramatically reduce or even eliminate the need or effort when it comes to training. In other
words, by taking flowering cuttings, you're encouraging a natural growth pattern that is almost ludicrously more effective than
topping or fimming!

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Turning a cutting into this in two weeks or less is easy... in another week or so she's put into flowering (indoors), and with
adequate lighting, by harvest they're between 6' - 8'/ft tall, after just a little over 11 weeks or so from taking the cuttings. <span></span>

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A younger 'Red Crown' Widow cut, taken much later in bloom, already growing new branches (six or seven days
from being cut and put into a 20/4 cycle)...

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If you haven't already removed them earlier on when pruning, a few 10" - 15" lowest-most branches that may
only have small or whispy buds, are ideal for dividing and cutting into 3 - 5 clones. When pruning and cleaning up the
base, I always keep in mind to leave a few behind for cuttings, later on. <span></span>

For instance, this is the sister of the above plant, taken from a lower point of the same branch...

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Those last two were taken just before the harvest, so it's certainly possible and just about as easy, but taking cuttings at
20 - 25 days 12/12 usually allows for the fastest turn around; they are more easily reverted back to a vegetative state
at this time, than if the cuttings are taken any later, or during the harvest. In conjunction with a very dialed-in
environment, flowering cuttings can provide the below results in a 11 - 12 week growth cycle, counting from cutting,
to harvest.
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A nug from the upper left-middle portion of the above plant, one of five or six 'major colas' like it (in a room of six ladies
of the same size/strain... this is 'Feralocity' though, aka Aussie Big Bud <span></span>).
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The second Vol. of my five Volume, CannaPharm 'World Summit' video presentation, focused on taking flowering cuttings. It may be useful for you! Some of the action shots, like the time-lapse plant growth footage... male and female flowers developing, and the little seedlings quickly germinating and bobbing, and dancing around for the sun.... are pretty interesting to watch, too!
 
 
 
 
 
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