Religion has to get the f#ck out of here!!!

Discussion in 'Pandora's Box' started by davros of skaro, Apr 5, 2013.

  1. Long life spans attributed to rulers of ancient Sumer bewildered archeologists translating the "Sumerian Kings List".The archeologists threw there hands in the air after rechecking several times,and was like "That's what it says".
     
    Preflood life spans are considered legends,or made up fantasy,because they are attributed to an actual ruler,and not a dynasty of descendants.After the flood the lifespans shrank to today's reality,and archeologically provable rulers.
     
    The Biblical patriarchs like Adam,Eve,Moses etc was given long life spans aswell.
     
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumerian_kings_list (Wiki base reference)
     
    http://etcsl.orinst.ox.ac.uk/section2/tr211.htm
     
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longevity_myths
     
     
     

     
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    Yeah, but until then, how can we expect them to turn away from religion in such an irrationally minded society?
     
  3. Actually I do not expect the religious to turn away from there faith.I am just giving information exposing that religion is false to those that chose to listen even though they are reasoned minded enough to know this allready.The historical information,and other things posted I hope they spread to other like minds,and on to there children aswell.
     
    Religion is just one irrationality of many mankind has to overcome,but religion is in my opinion something that is more mobile in it's spread.There is also the science of who,and why we are in this thread,and I give my opinion on spirituality too.
     
    I am positive in the potential of mankind,but will mankind break free from those that curb our greatness within is what I see no immediate hope for.
     
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    You are still argueing that religion is wrong because of what? Because the symbolism's are duped...
    You also claim religion is bad for the world....religion is this and that.
     
    Do you believe in Hallucinations? What about Buddha? Do you think that there is nothing to learn from any religion? Do you believe that if we eradicated religion that it would not pop up again in 100 or 1000 years? What about the world's Hitlers...or if Science is a religion in itself.
     
    This topic is BIASED beyond belief. You cannot convince a priest to denounce their religion in a web forum, so why expect to do so with the average Catholic with such arguments.
     
    I cannot believe you even trolled me into responding to this topic again...SAGE.
    And in the mean time maybe you could read some books, learn to be open minded, and choice a battle that will actually make the world a better place, and not trying to become another Hitlers Youth because you do not understand Psychology of Civilization.
     
  5. Thanks for the bump. :love:
     
    Religion is false plain,and simple.An education,and a healthy mind destroys religion all by itself.
     
    The mind needs to be respected,and is a complex machine.The mind is capable of malfunction,and is capable of stepping out of space/time.The dogma of religion holds people back from being aware that we are animals,and it is best managed thru education.The concept of sin,and hell is a warped mentality best left in the dark ages from where it spawned.
     
    I am not concerned about Buddhism,and would be better for someone with extreme religion OCD (memorize the chants...LOL!).
     
    What one can learn from religion should be from a class of mythology like one would take for extra credit in college (ie ancient Greek mythology).
     
    There will allways be someone trying to control others,and that is the true origin of religion in my eyes.The ancient elites allways had knowledge or devices to dupe the masses into obedience for there self appointed right for control (I hinted to this fact for those that payed attention to this thread).
     
    Those thinking science being a religion are those that do not want to give up the Woobie,or cannot see the true comical genius of the creators of Southpark.
     
    Yes this topic is biased with evidence to back it up.This thread is not for the religious,and I know what they really are. :poke:
     
    The process of non thinking called faith is not a way of understanding the world,but instead stands in fundamental opposition to modern science,and the scientific method.Religion is divisive and dangerous.
     
    I thank those once again that followed this thread in the shadows.
     
    Here is my updated research.
     
    Jesus is the personification of the Imperial cult of Caesar.
     
    There is no epigraphs,or literary sources to support the crucifixion outside
    Biblical texts during the era of the mythical Jesus.
     
    The "tropaion" is a sacred trophy/sun symbol for the ancient Romans.The
    tropaion was decorated with armor,and was reserved for the spirits of there
    Gods.The trophy/victory symbol was displayed after a victorious battle in
    tribute to there Gods.Prisoners were bound at the base,and never placed on
    it for it is sacred.Only victory thru divinity was it's tribute
    for public display.
     
    Cruci/crux (Latin) replaced the homophones translation of the "Latin/Greek" cremo/kremo burn/to hang(impale) which makes literary sources sound as if
    crucifixion was common during the era of the mythical Jesus.It is misquoted
    to make it look like it was,but it is only cremation of executed prisoners
    to stop the spread of flies that carry disease.Only when Christianity was
    established a X shaped crux/cruci was started to be used for torture.
    Ancient Romans also made sacrifices of cremation of animal intestines because
    they believed there Gods,and passed on ancestors took up the
    smoke that rised up in air.
     
    Jesus is modeled after Divus Iulius Christos aka Julius Caesar,and his
    resurrection thru the comet of 44 B.C.E. during his funeral games in the
    skies above Rome.Julius Caesar held the title of Christos (anointed with oil)
    ,and he was a Christos to his celestial mother the goddess Venus (God of love).Caesar's wax effigy was hanged (Kremo) on a Tropaion for the public to
    see his stab wounds.Caesar's body was then cremated (cremo) on a pyre.The
    people of Rome went in a frenzy dipping there fingers in the ashes,then
    rubbing the ash on there foreheads to be one with there divine Christos
    (Ash wednesday).The conspirators of senate is Satan.
     
    The Christian symbols the "crown of thorns",and the "cross" prove historically
    that the crucifixion is pure myth.The "Civic Laurel crown",and the "Tropaion",
    are sacred symbols to the ancient Romans.Any ancient Roman citizen,or soldier
    using these symbols,or resemblance of said symbols in the manner described in
    the fictional gospels would not happen.This is just like Muslims having a
    petting zoo filled with pigs,and remember that the soldier/citizen were highly superstitious.Christian/Muslim delusion is a detriment to the whole planet.
     
    There are no literary sources outside the Bible that support the existence of Jesus.Only an obvious medieval forgery in the writings of the historian Josephus
    who was not a direct witness in the first place.Other nonbiblical references
    refer to the title of "Christos",and not Jesus.The gospels are hearsay,and contradict each other.
     
    Jesus Christ is a transformation of the imperial cult of Caesar that started
    under the Pontifex Maximus Augustus Caesar (Julius's adopted son Octavian),and
    lasted over 200 years.further transformation into Christianity was under emperor Constantine with the council of Nicea.The early Christogram "Chi Ro" is actually
    the Julian star aka Caesar's comet.The imperial cult of Caesar closely match
    the Gospels,and are only a distorted mirror of the triumphs
    of the divine God Caesar.
     
    The Holy Trinity,and the core of the old testament are plagiarisms of ancient Egyptian,Babylonian,and Sumerian texts that was preserved on papyrus,stone walls,
    clay tablets,or just plain old oral tradition.The 3 main religions of today are a consolidation,and a rewrite of old Paganism (country dweller) beliefs.
     
    Angels are ancient Roman "Victoria",and ancient Greek "Nike"inwich evolved from ancient Sumerian epigraphs of "human bird hybrids" or "half bird humanoids".
    To deny the Holy Spirit is actually Denying Horus the Sun God that protects you.
    -------------------------------------------------------
     (Wiki base reference only)
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tropaion  
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civic_Crown
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comet_Caesar
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chi_Ro
     
    Lucifer "Shining One" personification of planet Venus.The "Morning Star" rises
    then falls from grace as the Sun rises.The "Pentagram" is the orbit/retrograde of Venus.The 5 conjunction points in relation to Earth forms the 5 pointed star.
    Hell is taken from the ancients concept of "Underworld".The personified planet Gods followthe ecliptic plane below the Earth's horizon.Angels are "Nike/Victoria" of ancient Greece/Rome mythos.Satan=the adversary.Senate is adversary to Julius Caesar.
     
    The Abrahamic based religions are a consolidation of Paganism (country dweller)
    beliefs.There is no way around this fact despite the aggrieved protests,and
    lies of the religious.
     
    The "Rape of Persephone" of ancient Greece,and "Inanna,and the Huluppu tree" of ancient Sumerian mythos are parallels to Eve of Eden,and fallen angels.These
    examples of many were to explain nature.These were rewritten to control the
    growing populace which only in a modern society serves to disconnect reason.
    Devil horns are the constellation Taurus inwich the planets get basketed following
    the ecliptic plane.
     
    Comet is the etymology of Greek "kometes",or star with long hairs.This is why
    medievel depictions of Jesus has long hair unlike an actual Judean.
    Jesus clearly states that one is exempt from judgment when one believes in him.
     
    When Christians say that no scholar refutes the existence of Jesus they are lying.
    Richard Carrier,David Fitzgerald,Robert M Price,Alvar Ellegard are scholars that
    refute existence.
     
    Possible original source of flood,and lost civilization mythos.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1GCgOI3B1o
    Source of biblical patriarch longevity.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumerian_kings_list
     
    Vids.
     
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMVAUcFj3Aw
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzU4bPkWVyY
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1ty6-WtH1Q
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91O1IqzHJN4
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FH_xD9cMDzA
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USRSKli1CQE
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYWWtIVQlrc
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGfqPUwD3pU
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMvME_k5vx4
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QigqnVZQIl8
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31cOKXxn1NU
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwfY069iPVI
     
     
    The cross of Constantine,or "Chi Rho" is actually the Julian star,or better known
    as "Caesar's comet".The comet of 44 B.C.E. that appeared in the sky during the
    funeral games of Julius Caesar,inwhich Octavian (Augustus Caesar) proclaimed proof
    that his father resurrected in heaven.Image search "Caesar's comet Chi Rho".Youtube search "gospel of caesar".The star of Bethlehem is Caesar's comet.Tax collector
    comes to household.No evidence for Herod ordering the slaying of newborns.
     
     Ancient Romans would add water to wine,and Jesus turned water into wine.
     
    Jesus=No proof of existence except for those that want,or have been indoctrinated to believe.
     
    Julius Caesar=Actually existed,and was many things including some of the same (in historical context) things believers in Jesus was.
     
    http://metafysiko.org/index.php?module=writeit&action=read&id=8
     
    wiki/Francesco_Carotta
     
    Latin 'crux' meant any type of executionary torture suspension device like an impaling stake, a tree, or a simple overhead beam. Romans nailed to beams and poles, tied to trees, and impaled on stakes.
     
    The religious mind is in a state of the
    adult equivalency of Boogie Man (punishment),and Santa Claus (reward).Trying to
    tell the religious the truth of reality is like telling a 5 year old there is
    no Santa while they are waiting on line to sit on his lap.Faith=mindclasp.
     
    "I am against religion because it teaches us to be satisfied with not understanding the world." (Richard Dawkins)
     
    "History is full of people who out fear,or ignorance,or the lust for power,have destroyed treasures of unmeasurable value.Wich truly belong to all of us.We MUST not let it happen again"......Carl Sagan
     
    "What wonders were in the books of berossus?" (commenting on the sacking of the library of Alexandria)......Carl Sagan
     
    Peace onto an undivided healthy minded world........Me
     
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    Ok
     
  7. #468 davros of skaro, May 29, 2013
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    I found some more vids,because I am whacked like that.



    This is part 1 of a series.



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RT8WATQ6vWY


    Poor kid struggles with rational thought under the weight of pastor Big Mac.



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzE36jTw8pQ
     
  8. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3Vj-EgwRJQ
     
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVfUimq2KeI
     
    Imperial cult of Caesar deified Divus Ilius Christos anointed son of Goddess Venus
    (love).Julius's wax effigy was nailed to a cross so crowd can observe stab holes
    inflicted by senators.The daylight comet of 44 bce during Julius's funeral games was
    proof the father of Octavian (Caesar Augustus) resurrected in heaven.The cross/Tropaion
    was a sacred trophy symbol of victory.Prisoners were always bound at the base,on it would
    be sacrilegious.
     
    Star of Bethlehem=Caesar's comet.Comet is the etymology of Greek "kometes",or star with
    long hairs.This is why medieval depictions of Jesus have long hair unlike an actual
    Judean.(wiki/Comet etymology)There was no need to travel to Bethlehem for tax/census
    takers come to the household.No historian records Herod slaying newborns even though
    there were historians that would have loved to."Cast the 1st stone",and "Handle
    snakes/drink poison" only appear after 10th century.
     
    Crucify replaced the homophones translation of Latin "cremo" cremate,Greek kremo
    "to hang"(impale).Caesar was cremated (cremo),and a wax effigy was hanged/nailed (kremo)
    on a Tropaion.Roman execution was beheading with head impaled on a pike
    or watch?v=JsxGuWFsHAA .Pontifex Maximus Augustus (son of the God Apollo thru
    a virgin birth by a night visit by a serpent) formed the imperial cult of Caesar
    which lasted for over 300 yrs.Cult worships divine God Julius.
     
    Under the Pax Romana (wiki/Pax_Romana)the cult of Caesar flourished thru the vast Roman
    empire,and fractured into different sects.The Christos worship,and other Pagan beliefs
    were consolidated under the Nicean Creed.The earliest Christogram "Chi Rho" is actually
    the "Julian Star" (Caesar's comet)that Constantine used in guise of Greek letters X/P.
    This ended persecution of differing sects.Fictional Jesus written to match,but fails
    messianic prophecy.
     
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tropaion  
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechane
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comet_Caesar
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chi_Ro
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
  9. IMO, Its not religon that poses any threat, baseline, the majority are peaceful, good doing, well wishers with moralistic teachings. The word you were looking for 24 pages back was perhaps "EXTREMISTS" need to get the fuck out, because from what I can tell, the crazy delusional overboard ones are the ones who cause harm. Same with both sides, no one really needs to go the "fuck" anywhere really, we need to cut the judgement and prejudice and chill the fuck out...
     
  10. Hey PP.
     
    I could not disagree more.
     
    My main goal of this thread is to expose the Abrahamic based God.I threw in a few other things,but Yaweh,Jesus,and Allah has to get the fuck out of here.I have seen,and talked to enough religious people in my life to know even what you call baseline is detrimental to an advancing technological society.The scriptures from the big three are a slave manual to keep the mind in check originating from the ancient Roman empire.These holy schmoly texts are a consolidation of not only past mythologies,but other things stuffed in to undermind the logic centers of the brain.All people that believe lies,push lies with more lies,and target children with these lies are extremists to me.
     
    I am on other sites.At one site this Christian came in a forum with atheists saying all sorts of rose,and olive branch things.I looked at his past post history,and it was nothing,but hate,and nasty things about nonbelievers,or other religions.Of course I outed him with his hypocracy behind his wall of feel good verses.He had nothing to say.
     
    I do not speak for the religious,but those that are not,and you they think what I used to think?Then I say get educated,and be aware of the religious mindset.Technology is expanding,and the danger lies in those with bronze/iron age IQ levels,even if they have a fancy degree.The internet is were religion comes to die,but there are still places with puppet masters pulling the strings.The one bad apple outlook is just a cover,and a sweep under the carpet thinking.
     
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0GrK0WH5Lo
     
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4ogazoMNf8
     
    Before the Nicean creed Christians were just that worshippers of Divus Ilius Christos.There never was a Jesus,and there was never crucifixion used by the ancient Romans.Look at the sun,and squint your eyes.You see that cross,well that is sacred.
     
     
    Remember the Quran needs a historical Jesus,otherwise that makes Muhhamad (pigsbuh) a liar.
    "History is full of people who out fear,or ignorance,or the lust for power,have destroyed treasures of unmeasurable value.Wich truly belong to all of us.We MUST not let it happen again"......Carl Sagan
     
    "What wonders were in the books of berossus?"......Carl Sagan
     
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    Wow! That's definitely not the reason I chose this name!
     
    [/sarcasm]
     
    But props on being the first to point it out anyway. No point in a good joke if it goes unnoticed.
     

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