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Subcools new supersoil mix

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 07:47 PM

Ive been going through forums trying to nail down the proper ingredients for sub's new supersoil mix(2012) Ive been noticing when people post the new recipe they are adding Rock Phosphate to the ingredient list.
I think the original list has rock phosphate omitted.. but yet people have been using it in there list.
So my question is.. do i add rock phosphate or do i omit it?
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Posted 01 April 2013 - 09:16 PM

Who is "Subcool"? Is he a forum member?

Dude, you don't need anyone's name on a soil recipe to make a great homemade soil that will get you where you want to be.

http://forum.grassci...-beginners.html

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 09:25 PM

TGA Subcool..
I realize there are many soil recipes.. this year im following subcools supersoil mix. i just need to know if rock phosphate is an ingredient in the new mix. I don't want to over due the nutrients

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 09:45 PM

Rock phosphate is great to have in ur mix i use it myself. It has longterm phosphorus and also does a beautiful thing which is hold high N sources in the soil as opposed to them gassingoff into ammonia when breaking down normally so it keepsit where it belongs so ur plants can use it.
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Posted 02 April 2013 - 04:13 AM

I believe sub uses soft rock phosphate

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 04:59 AM

Doesn't anyone make their own soil mixes anymore? It used to be fun talking about soil mixes, things have gotten extremely boring lately regarding that topic...
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Posted 02 April 2013 - 08:24 PM

Agreed.

Awe man I have to compost? Awe man raising worms? Awe man my plants never looked better?

I have a shit ton of cheese for all this wine ;)
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Posted 02 April 2013 - 08:34 PM

making your own soil is much better than using subcool's mix. let things compost and "cook" for awhile.


a buddy of mine tried making his mix once. needless to say it was a miserable failure for him.



i tried telling the dude that layering things isnt a good idea :rolleyes:

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 09:30 PM

Mixing soils are easy!

Three things
Base mix
Amendment mix
Rock dust mix

They typically make shit so confusing 5 pounds of this crap, 10 pounds of that crap. You don't need all of that crap. The most important ingredient is the compost, preferably EWC and always find the highest quality! ALWAYS!!!

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 11:32 PM

i tried telling the dude that layering things isnt a good idea

Like "spiking"? Lol

Lawdy lawdy lawdy.

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 12:07 AM

making your own soil is much better than using subcool's mix. let things compost and "cook" for awhile.

a buddy of mine tried making his mix once. needless to say it was a miserable failure for him.

i tried telling the dude that layering things isnt a good idea :rolleyes:


I won't be using subcools commercial soil, but will be making it myself and storing the soil for 2 months before use.

what do you mean when you say layering isn't a good idea? when making the soil or layering the soil within the pot?

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 05:11 AM

It means that layering is counter intuitive to how a plant uses nutrients. Just mix everything and the plant will take what it needs when it needs it

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 11:00 AM

I won't be using subcools commercial soil, but will be making it myself and storing the soil for 2 months before use.

what do you mean when you say layering isn't a good idea? when making the soil or layering the soil within the pot?


Well I mixed up a batch of subcool's supersoil in my opinion its a great way to learn about organic methods at low cost. It doesn't mean that its the alpha and omega of soils but it's a pretty solid mix to have under your belt. As I learn the benefits of organic nutrients and amendments, I will apply them as needed but, I'm not the type that wants to waste good beans on a bs experimental soil mix. I have a green thumb but I don't get this major satisfaction from creating soil mixtures. To each its own... Ganja Tech go for it!!! You will be pleased with your end results and thats the end goal. The commercial TGA super soil is good stuff as well! Make sure you use the mycorrhizae when transplanting!

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 01:00 PM

Doesn't anyone make their own soil mixes anymore? It used to be fun talking about soil mixes, things have gotten extremely boring lately regarding that topic...


Wait a little bit....

When I manage to get off my ass and start my journal, might start getting fun again.....the laundry list of amendments alone should be interesting to see.

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 07:13 PM

Don't tease.

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 10:16 PM

Don't tease.


I'm not. :rolleyes:

Just got busy this week. I plan on posting it up this weekend, but to give you a hint of whats to come...

Alfalfa Meal
Kelp Meal
Indonesian Bat Guano
Jamaican Bat Guano
Comfrey Leaf
Nettle Leaf
Yarrow Leaf and Flower
Yucca Root Powder
Karanja Meal
Crab Shell Meal
aZomite (granular)
Oyster Shell Powder
Greensand
Ful-Humix
Sul-Po-Mag
Neem Meal
Fish Meal
Fish Bone Meal
Glacial Rock Dust
Basalt Rock Dust
4 types of EWC (Roots Organic, Northern Lakes Castings, KIS EWC, Homemade)
CoM Penobscot, Schootic and Quoddy compost blends
KIS Fungal Compost
Perlite
Gro - Stones (porous silica)
Pro Mix BX
Washed Coco Coir

and a couple things I can't recall atm...

Should be fun. :D
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Posted 03 April 2013 - 10:31 PM

CoM junky! I am in for that!

check my thread I posted some of the new products they are offering this season, some of them look pretty damn good.

Little side note ; I was picking up supplies @ Hoes and I walked by the gardening section only to hear this FINE young little redhead call MG crap and say she only uses CoM, man if only I wasn't married lol

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 11:09 PM

Yeah, I'm pretty psyched for this run. Waiting on some money, then I'll be upgrading from 3 to 5/6K watts in the flower room (depends on if I need another AC right now).

I have to stop, save my rants for my journal.

But at least you had some nice scenery while shopping for greenery (supplies). :rolleyes:

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 10:09 PM

I started with Subcools' super soil mix. Works pretty darn well. Good place to start as far as mixing your own soils go. After a while though I have modified it some. He def uses rock phosphate. I know that now you can buy it in bags, but I think that would be a waste of money.

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Posted 06 April 2013 - 04:55 PM

rock phosphate is great if you compost it in nastily wet compost for at least a year before using it.


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