Using colored glass to dab off...

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  1. #1 bwitsne, Feb 17, 2013
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    I thought about this a few weeks ago when I started making concentrates again, and I was seeing some cool pencil dabber and other things to dab off. All of which are glass. But I was curious if it was safe, and I have been.

    I went on etsy again today and found an artist that says the following about his dabber: "this one is tipped in clear glass as an extra measure of safety for those concerned about the colored glass being used on hot pads. "

    The fact that this artist states this in his description leads me to believe my theory is correct.

    Just wanted to warn people, if you dabbing off a colored dabber, make sure your not putting it on the titanium for very long. I digged into it slightly more, and my finding made me very scared for a lot of dabbers health.




    • Iron(II) oxide may be added to glass resulting in bluish-green glass which is frequently used in beer bottles. Together with chromium it gives a richer green color, used for wine bottles.
    • Sulfur, together with carbon and iron salts, is used to form iron polysulfides and produce amber glass ranging from yellowish to almost black. In borosilicate glasses rich in boron, sulfur imparts a blue color. With calcium it yields a deep yellow color.[4]
    • Manganese can be added in small amounts to remove the green tint given by iron, or in higher concentrations to give glass an amethyst color. Manganese is one of the oldest glass additives, and purple manganese glass was used since early Egyptian history.
    • Manganese dioxide, which is black, is used to remove the green color from the glass; in a very slow process this is converted to sodium permanganate, a dark purple compound. In New England some houses built more than 300 years ago have window glass which is lightly tinted violet because of this chemical change; and such glass panes are prized as antiques.
    • Small concentrations of cobalt (0.025 to 0.1%) yield blue glass. The best results are achieved when using glass containing potash. Very small amounts can be used for decolorizing.
    • 2 to 3% of copper oxide[disambiguation needed] produces a turquoise color.
    • Nickel, depending on the concentration, produces blue, or violet, or even black glass. Lead crystal with added nickel acquires purplish color. Nickel together with a small amount of cobalt was used for decolorizing of lead glass.
    • Chromium is a very powerful colorizing agent, yielding dark green [5] or in higher concentrations even black color. Together with tin oxide and arsenic it yields emerald green glass. Chromium aventurine, in which aventurescence was achieved by growth of large parallel chromium(III) oxide plates during cooling, was also made from glass with added chromium oxide in amount above its solubility limit in glass.
    • Cadmium together with sulphur forms cadmium sulfide and results in deep yellow color, often used in glazes. However, cadmium is toxic. Together with selenium and sulphur it yields shades of bright red and orange.[6]
    • Adding titanium produces yellowish-brown glass. Titanium, rarely used on its own, is more often employed to intensify and brighten other colorizing additives.
    • Uranium (0.1 to 2%) can be added to give glass a fluorescent yellow or green color.[7] Uranium glass is typically not radioactive enough to be dangerous, but if ground into a powder, such as by polishing with sandpaper, and inhaled, it can be carcinogenic. When used with lead glass with very high proportion of lead, produces a deep red color.
    • Didymium gives green color (used in UV filters) or lilac red.[6]
     
  2. dammm bro huge discoveryyy!!. sticky this bitch asapp thanks i deff aint gota hold it for more than 1 sec topsss
     
  3. The new "slime" colored glass you see has uranium in it!

    Uranium (0.1 to 2%) can be added to give glass a fluorescent yellow or green color.[7] Uranium glass is typically not radioactive enough to be dangerous, but if ground into a powder, such as by polishing with sandpaper, and inhaled, it can be carcinogenic. When used with lead glass with very high proportion of lead, produces a deep red color.

    lol
     
  4. I use this blue and white dabber for dabbing. The one in this photo...

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    Am i good with this one or what? It's done by a local glass blower.
     
  5. #5 bwitsne, Feb 17, 2013
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    According to the following in formation sourced from About.com which is a reputable source of information states that white glass is colored using "Tin" while blue glass is colored using copper for light blue and cobalt for dark blue.

    You should be ok, as long as your not holding your dabber on the titanium for a long time. But who knows, you might be getting the ti hot enough for just a slight reaction. I think this should be more thought about...

    I am only bringing awareness to people, as I thought of this about a month ago, and now see the artist just added "this one is tipped in clear glass as an extra measure of safety for those concerned about the colored glass being used on hot pads."

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  6. Interesting point you bring up. So would worked bowls and domes be susceptible to this? I was thinking the annealing process might coat the colors and thus prevent any fumes, but idk..
     
  7. Annealing according to wiki is just the slow cooling of the glass for added strength, so I doubt that would have much affect. I'd imagine domes and curves to be fine as they're not making direct contact with super heated Ti but a worked bowl if the inside is also colored I could see possibly reacting. Just checked my hot hit slide and its cobalt om the inside :( guess I wont use it anymore.

    "You must spread some Rep around before giving it to bwitsne again"
     
  8. Surprise that not as many people have replied as I thought they would. this is big
     
  9. All my dabbers are quartz
     
  10. nothing wrong with colored dabbers. those dont get hot enough for long enough periods to make any affect really. Colored nails/hot wands are no bueno though :S
     
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  11. What do you have to say about the colored ti?
     
  12. i just saw a slyme nail that i one day wanted to get made
    i qusse not anymore
    when i dab i let the dab melt off instead of placing it on
     
  13. slyme nail ewwwwww think about how they get that color. My friend had a green one and she said the head lost its color.... ew.

    As far as anodized Ti, I have no idea. I've never owned Ti anything hahha But I'd like to see how long before someone posts about color coming off the tip of their dabber... gross. I dont know man, with glass/quartz there's nothing to really worry about.
     
  14. They add uranium to the glass to get the slime color. So your friend smoked radioactive stuff. I only use glass dabbers/quartz
     
  15. interesting read
     

  16. If you are thinking of the highly educated colored dabbers i think the coloration is from Ti oxidization. I read about them making their gold Ti dabber stands by using electricity to oxidize the stands. So i assume they use the same process on their dabbers. i have no clue but i assume the heat from the electricity is what does it, just how a brand new nail will turn a myriad of colors from gold to blue to purple and so on
     
  17. #17 Dysfunctional_Designs, Feb 24, 2013
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    It's common sense.....

    What do you think they do to glass to make it colored; they ad metal and chemicals. Mostly gold and silver. You DO NOT have to worry about dabbing with a colored dabber. BUT!!!!!, DO NOT DAB ON COLORED NAILS, unless the top of the actual nail is clear.

    P.S- I am a glass blower


    ALSO! using metal dabbers that are not grade 2 TI (including stainless) have the possibility of releasing toxic metal fumes when touched against a glowing red nail.


    The biggest metal fume you have to worry about is COPPER! If you have an electroformed pipe or smoking device that has copper within flame contact near the bowl... you are doing extreme damage to your lungs. Same thing with foil. Do not make foil pipes, do not consume aluminum! IT WILL ALTER YOUR BRAIN AND LUNGS FOREVER!
     
  18. Hmm been wondering about all this myself was looking into buying one of those pencil dabbers.
     
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  19. Wow. I always worry about dabs being safe and clean as they're not that popular in my area of Maryland and not everyone is educated about them since they're so new here. It's pretty scary how at risk people put themselves. I remember smoking hella tinnys in middle school. Even out of coke cans. Nasty nasty :/


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  20. nothing wrong with colored dabbers, I have 4 pencils
     
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